Prolactrone not working! Possible Gyno

[heckler7]

500mg/w test e

okay this is pretty mild and may not have required an AI depending on what your pre bloods and mid bloods showed your Estro at, Tren is and other 19 nors will give you more harsh sides. By day 5 my nipples start to itch like crazy, particularly the left one. But you said you are lactating, so I would drop the tren immediately, and add nolva

 

[Tysdon]

okay this is pretty mild and may not have required an AI depending on what your pre bloods and mid bloods showed your Estro at, Tren is and other 19 nors will give you more harsh sides. By day 5 my nipples start to itch like crazy, particularly the left one. But you said you are lactating, so I would drop the tren immediately, and add nolva

You wouldn't suggest trying the caber first?

 

[exphys88]

If it were me, I'd blast both caber and an AI and get bloods.
Adex at 1 mg/day, or aromasin at 25 mg every 12 hours
Caber at 1 mg/week

 

[Tysdon]

If it were me, I'd blast both caber and an AI and get bloods.
Adex at 1 mg/day, or aromasin at 25 mg every 12 hours
Caber at 1 mg/week

This is what I'm planning. thanks

 

[SloppyJ]

Hmmm Id go heavier on the caber personally. But see what works for you.

 

[Tysdon]

Hmmm Id go heavier on the caber personally. But see what works for you.

I was advised every 3 days which turns out to 1.5mg/w What would you advise?

 

[brundel]

How do you know the Prolactrone isnt working? Bloodwork is the only way to know.
While it is possible your super prone to prolactin sides and Prolactrone isnt strong enough its FAR more likely your RC AI is bunk.
Last guy who I went though this with said the same exact things^^^^^^^^^ you said.
Turned out his estro was 150 and prolactin was 10 so....Id not jump to conclusions.

You could. Leave your AI where it is and try the Caber you ordered. If your problems stop its likely prolactin.
IF not....your AI is bunk. But before you Post a thread about something being bunk you should at least have some proof.
OTC or not the ingredients in Prolactrone are comparable to a medication. These statements are supported by TONS of viable research studies as well as Bloodwork done by users.

 

[Tysdon]

How do you know the Prolactrone isnt working? Bloodwork is the only way to know.
While it is possible your super prone to prolactin sides and Prolactrone isnt strong enough its FAR more likely your RC AI is bunk.
Last guy who I went though this with said the same exact things^^^^^^^^^ you said.
Turned out his estro was 150 and prolactin was 10 so....Id not jump to conclusions.

You could. Leave your AI where it is and try the Caber you ordered. If your problems stop its likely prolactin.
IF not....your AI is bunk. But before you Post a thread about something being bunk you should at least have some proof.
OTC or not the ingredients in Prolactrone are comparable to a medication. These statements are supported by TONS of viable research studies as well as Bloodwork done by users.

As stated before.. I did bloodwork last cycle with the same AI and estro was fine.

I just ordered letro and will do that at 2.5mg ED as well until lump goes away.

 

[Tysdon]

Getting blood test tomorrow for E2 Prolactin and Total and free test.

 

[Sydbarrett]

My experience with Prami while on a high dose tren course ( 1g a week of tren "A" - one shot every other day) from March thru Mid August...Ascended prami @.25mg ea day, up to 1mg on June 1 and throughout. I started and stopped with 1g each week. I did not see any point in descending the tren at all. Just did TREN ONLY and went from 225lb to 245lb ( and was at around 12% bf at the end) Saw amazing strength gains along with added LBM with sick vascular changes to my legs...I did split workouts, allowed myself only an hour and 15min. to get my workout in. My cardio was bad throughout, but I still pushed. Another few sides that I had to deal with were profuse sweating, insomnia and slight anxiety. These came near the end.....I have retained some gains but lost the vascularity. Hindsight I should have added 250 to 300mg of some test. That is all I would change. My body showed the help prami was providing, but the only other side from it was being sleepy as hell 20min after dosing. May try caber next time, but not sure if I want to fix something I never felt was really broke...bump for caber stories.

 

[brundel]

Getting blood test tomorrow for E2 Prolactin and Total and free test.

Awesome. Make sure your still taking the Prolactrone and the adex you were using before so it reflects correctly the issue.
While its possible the Prolactrone wasnt strong enough its not likely.
Def be interested in the bloodwork.

 

[heckler7]

Getting blood test tomorrow for E2 Prolactin and Total and free test.

this is good, you been there before, sux being the one going thru it lots of questions this will give you the answers

 

[Tris10]

Prolactrone didn't do anything for me. I had even upped them to 4 a day. I stick to caber or prami. I've used formeron with no problems. I stopped buying that too tho.

 

[chucky1]

stick to e3d bro and see how it go's and don't use nolva with any 19 nor's it could make things worse, letro is fine though...
looking forward to seeing your blood work results

 

[Goodskie]

An OTC supplement not working?!?!?

This can't be true!

 

[overburdened]

everyone has given you great advice in the thread, so I have no reason to chime in on the comps you should use...
However, only one person told you to stop playing with your nipples.... THIS IS THE MAJOR CAUSE OF UNCONTROLLED GYNO IN MANY PEOPLE!!! and to hear you say that white fluid came out tells me one thing... you are playing with your nipples! This causes the human body(male or female) to produce tons of prolactin, and cause you to lactate!

So, stick with the good advice you've been given on the comps... and STOP playing with your nipples.. leave them alone! You will be surprised at how much better the comps work when you quit playing with your nipples... don't even feel them.. keep your hands away from them, and don't let your girlfriend(or anyone else for that matter) bite them, or play with them in any fashion! This will help you immensely! along with taking the correct comps to reduce e2 and progestins

 

[FordFan]

As stated before.. I did bloodwork last cycle with the same AI and estro was fine.

I just ordered letro and will do that at 2.5mg ED as well until lump goes away.

Was the ai you are using now the same batch from when you had labs? I've bought rc ai's that were good, next batch, bunk shit. Ai is something you don't play with.

Normally prolactin issues come from high e2 levels. But, anything is possible. Like everyone else said, bloodwork for the true answer.

 

[blergs.]

Of tren.

I don't agree with you, 300-400mg ew of tren is more then enough.
I wont go more then 400mg ew of tren myself. deff not passed 500 ever, I prob wont ever even go to 500 now (yet i will easily use 1g of test).
300mg ew of tren is STRONG, don't doubt tren, it can be strong AND harsh.

just my op anyway.

 

[blergs.]

As stated before.. I did bloodwork last cycle with the same AI and estro was fine.

I just ordered letro and will do that at 2.5mg ED as well until lump goes away.

I would rec you try 1.2mg eod with letro and give it a few weeks then move it to 0.6mg e3d for rest of cycle.
and i rec prami.

 

[independent]

My wife has gyno, should i stop playing with her nipples?

 

[vicious 13]

I read some of the posts not all I take 1 cap a day on a heavy deca cycle and it's working well