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ephys88 and other IM evolutionists, please explain the origin of the universe
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You're probably right.
So your position is: No machine has been invented that will tell us in absolute clarity and purpose, that " There's a 'God' " ?
Damn, you're like one of those people who wants everything done for them.
Tell me oh wise one, is it your limited point of view of "God" that denotes your admission that evidence must exsist solely in the physical realm, and only in such a way that our known senses (touch, sight, smell, hearing, "taste")?
I already disproved that with my mentioning of waves, radio, etc.
Things which we do not perceive and yet are there.
And machines to read these only invented in the last couple of centuries.
You've got no imagination. You have nothing but HEAVILY dated knowledge of the world and that's "it" for you.
Einstein said imagination is more important than knowledge, and that's how he was able to develop the scientific systems for which YOU love so dearly.
You are a real backwards person bro. Lay off the cheetohs and mountain dew.
Still no scientific evidence for god. My position is that there is no scientific evidence for a supreme being and will remain that way until there is. At this point it's clear you're just a troll.
Sadly, you wouldn't understand the evidence, even if it were a snake and bit you in the ass.
It's clear that you're a feebleminded fool. May God have mercy on your soul.
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So, you're a believer in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Standard Donkey
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one thing ive been wondering about..
why after the big bang, did the protons electrons and neutrons whatever.. form planets? i mean.. why planets? and why so many... why not just one giant one? and why did others form asteroids and comets?
and why/how are the planets so different from one another..like why does earth support life while none other the others in the milky way do even tho they were made out of the sameish shit? and why are they different sizes?
keep in mind i decided to study accounting/finance in university so i could avoid biology and chemistry..
why after the big bang, did the protons electrons and neutrons whatever.. form planets? i mean.. why planets? and why so many... why not just one giant one? and why did others form asteroids and comets?
and why/how are the planets so different from one another..like why does earth support life while none other the others in the milky way do even tho they were made out of the sameish shit? and why are they different sizes?
keep in mind i decided to study accounting/finance in university so i could avoid biology and chemistry..
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Wow, that's a few billion years of history you've asked about. Stars are what actually form heavier elements through fusion. The stars eventually explode scattering these heavier elements which eventually are pulled together by gravity and in the orbit of a star form a planet. Which is why planets are basically spherical. Why not just one giant one? Because the big bang caused an expansion of space, in other words, it caused particles to move away from each other and it took about a billion years before gravity pulled them together to form stars.
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alright that works.
but how did the earth get so many different layers? was top soil somehow the last of the "heavy elements" that is pulled together by the gravity of a star? lol..
also this should be a very easy question which i could just google but im too lazy.. how the fuck did the earth get an atmosphere?
Nah, that's for pseudo-intellectualist, whiney bitches.
I understand the gig, I've read that entire website.
It's poor satire concerning the poorest parts of religion.
There's better arguments to be made than the spaghetti monster.
planets have THERE OWN gravity from the spinning and inner workings of each given planet. was there a "big bang" yes i believe so, but thats got nothing to do with gravity. now a VACUUM is another thing .. professor? ;-)
Newton and Einstein had their theories.
.... It's beyond belief that Creationists exist outside of mental asylums.
Just goes to show the length organizations will go to control people's minds, and how fucking gullible and naive some people are
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Newton and Einstein had their theories.
.... It's beyond belief that Creationists exist outside of mental asylums.
Just goes to show the length organizations will go to control people's minds, and how fucking gullible and naive some people are
lol.. u can answer the question whenever u want bro
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All of the arguments for the existence of a Christian god can be made for the FSM.
This proves nothing.
You really mean, the biblical God.
The bible has been edited numerous times by monarchs and other enslavers, to control their people.
It's obvious isn't it?
And that's why you must be childish to cling to such parody.
There's much more thoughtful arguments against religion, than the FSM.
Slow down on the mountain dew breh.
No shit retod. Anyone who's graduated elementary knows that.
Newton and Einstein had their theories.
.... It's beyond belief that Creationists exist outside of mental asylums.
Just goes to show the length organizations will go to control people's minds, and how fucking gullible and naive some people are
Two men had a theory.
Here's a theory for you: Use your mind to come up with your OWN theories.
It's beyond belief that you've not yet considered this idea.
You guys don't even know enough science to support your borrowed ideas. Pathetic.
God have mercy on your souls.
God have mercy on your souls.
exphys88
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which god, and how do you know he will have mercy on yours? because you argue with atheists? Maybe there are 1000 gods? Maybe god is really an alien? You've provided nothing but insults in this thread.
Why do you get many dingleberries instead of just one big one?
Those theories are about explaining how gravity works more so than the root cause/origin. Remember, scientific theories are "well substantiated explanations of some aspect of the natural world" not just hunches on where something came from.
We don't entirely know. My guess is Shrivel - God of the Gaps created it.
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If we don't know the root cause of something, it's interesting how religious folks automatically declare a victory, as if us not knowing how something works gives them the win by default.
Are you familiar w "god of the gaps?"
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This thread is dumb
evolution doesn't explain the origin of the universe, nor the origin of life even. Only how the very first simple life forms evolved in complexity and diversified to fill every available food niche in the environment. Thats all it is. There is an unutilized food source somewhere, an animal will eventually evolve to fill that gap. Predator and prey provide evolutionary stimulus to eachother via natural selection, the weakest prey and predators do not survive. The most "fit" for that environment, and the one whose genes lead him to be successful in reproduction the most times wins. His genes spread, and eventually the entire species carries the beneficial genes of its strongest and most promiscuous members. Its that simple for the most part. You don't have to believe, read some books, it is all explained already.
Disclaimer: There is nothing in the theory of evolution that disproves god, and they need not be mutually exclusive. Believe god was the cause if you so choose, but evolution is the "how" no matter what way you want to look at it. You can believe in both.
Also the big bang doesn't explain and is not supposed to, the cause of the expansion, only what happened afterwards that lead the universe to be what it is today. There was a tremendous release of energy, that we know. This energy formed the simplest, lightest elements on the table, hydrogen and helium. These two gases condensed in various places due to their own gravity, and formed stars. In the core of stars, heavy elements were born due to the tremendous heat and pressure crushing elementary particles together. Further down the period table, even heavier elements were created when these stars went supernova, the explosion cast these heavy elements, carbon, iron, nitrogen etc. etc. out into the universe. This "star dust" collected to form rocky planets, earth, and eventually You. We are all made of elemental particles created in a supernova, probably many billions of years ago. Thats kinda cool if you ask me
evolution doesn't explain the origin of the universe, nor the origin of life even. Only how the very first simple life forms evolved in complexity and diversified to fill every available food niche in the environment. Thats all it is. There is an unutilized food source somewhere, an animal will eventually evolve to fill that gap. Predator and prey provide evolutionary stimulus to eachother via natural selection, the weakest prey and predators do not survive. The most "fit" for that environment, and the one whose genes lead him to be successful in reproduction the most times wins. His genes spread, and eventually the entire species carries the beneficial genes of its strongest and most promiscuous members. Its that simple for the most part. You don't have to believe, read some books, it is all explained already.
Disclaimer: There is nothing in the theory of evolution that disproves god, and they need not be mutually exclusive. Believe god was the cause if you so choose, but evolution is the "how" no matter what way you want to look at it. You can believe in both.
Also the big bang doesn't explain and is not supposed to, the cause of the expansion, only what happened afterwards that lead the universe to be what it is today. There was a tremendous release of energy, that we know. This energy formed the simplest, lightest elements on the table, hydrogen and helium. These two gases condensed in various places due to their own gravity, and formed stars. In the core of stars, heavy elements were born due to the tremendous heat and pressure crushing elementary particles together. Further down the period table, even heavier elements were created when these stars went supernova, the explosion cast these heavy elements, carbon, iron, nitrogen etc. etc. out into the universe. This "star dust" collected to form rocky planets, earth, and eventually You. We are all made of elemental particles created in a supernova, probably many billions of years ago. Thats kinda cool if you ask me
exphys88
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I beat you to it.
Lol, of course you're aware of "god of gaps!"
exphys88
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This thread is dumb
evolution doesn't explain the origin of the universe, nor the origin of life even. Only how the very first simple life forms evolved in complexity and diversified to fill every available food niche in the environment. Thats all it is. There is an unutilized food source somewhere, an animal will eventually evolve to fill that gap. Predator and prey provide evolutionary stimulus to eachother via natural selection, the weakest prey and predators do not survive. The most "fit" for that environment, and the one whose genes lead him to be successful in reproduction the most times wins. His genes spread, and eventually the entire species carries the beneficial genes of its strongest and most promiscuous members. Its that simple for the most part. You don't have to believe, read some books, it is all explained already.
Disclaimer: There is nothing in the theory of evolution that disproves god, and they need not be mutually exclusive. Believe god was the cause if you so choose, but evolution is the "how" no matter what way you want to look at it. You can believe in both.
Also the big bang doesn't explain and is not supposed to, the cause of the expansion, only what happened afterwards that lead the universe to be what it is today. There was a tremendous release of energy, that we know. This energy formed the simplest, lightest elements on the table, hydrogen and helium. These two gases condensed in various places due to their own gravity, and formed stars. In the core of stars, heavy elements were born due to the tremendous heat and pressure crushing elementary particles together. Further down the period table, even heavier elements were created when these stars went supernova, the explosion cast these heavy elements, carbon, iron, nitrogen etc. etc. out into the universe. This "star dust" collected to form rocky planets, earth, and eventually You. We are all made of elemental particles created in a supernova, probably many billions of years ago. Thats kinda cool if you ask me
Great post!
Any. I don't know just hope. maybe. probably. define alien, and also maybe.
"Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe - a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is indeed quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive."
-Einstein
Just sayin' brehs.
-Einstein
Just sayin' brehs.
