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local UGL vs Asia Pharm, Gen-shi..etc
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Only paying 60 bucks for pharmacy gear? From a pharmacy? How much can you get at once? This for trt? Your the probably exception, not the rule.
Damn, the best I can get without insurance is $99. With insurance its like $45.
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99$..so then my prices are not bad at all!
with sales i have now are even more cheap.
but hater will say again AP = UGL..omfg
Costco sells watson for 60 in my neck of the woods, so apparently you are getting Pfizer for a steal at 60. I have found Pfizer for 91 at a local ma and pop pharmacy.
US compounded I pay about $70 for 10ml no insurance but its not brand name.99$..so then my prices are not bad at all!
with sales i have now are even more cheap.
but hater will say again AP = UGL..omfg
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but its good GMP,so its GREAT!
Are you able to move on now and stop this nonsense? It has truly turned into a waste of my time...and everyone elses. If you post up one more stupid ass question like this, I will henceforth respond with this...
Anyway, I find it rather funny that out of my entire post, the only thing you could pull out of your ass in an attempt to avoid total humiliation, was this stupid ass question.
Lets take a look at it then.
1. Raw material- where do they get there raws? I would guess a factory in china or one similar unless your saying they manufacture thier own raws inwhich case it should be even cheaper cause they dont have to reach a profit of just raws like other factories- and there is no proof out there that the raws that they use are of any better quality than ugl- so not sure where the cost difference comes there especially since they more than likely buy in bigger amounts than the UGLS. Meaning they would pay less.
2 Manufacturing process- They have a building, employees and really expensive equipment(supposedly)- This is the only difference between UGL and UGL WP- but the problem with this arguement is that Real FDA approved gear in the good ol US of A cost less tha 150 dollars a 10ml vial and they have this exact same over head. and higher paid employees MUCH higher and higher cost of rent elctricity ECT.
3 profit margin- I would wager a good amount that WP has alotted for a much greater profit margin......the reason why EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS ON SALE
So please where is the cost difference again?????? I hope you know more about steroids than business.
World-Pharma.org
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Guy,,why are are so big hater for my shop? what is wrong with you,what i did wrong to you or anybody..If you dont like my shop prices,live me alone...better go to gym,train hard,make muscles and have fun in your life..
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Problem is that you are lying about your brands! false advertising on your producst that is why people hate the way you are running your biss
what about saying our brands are manufactured in strict control but its not humangrade im sure you will get more respect that way
what about saying our brands are manufactured in strict control but its not humangrade im sure you will get more respect that way
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See bold avove: Please explain, although I have to run, so I will not be able to respond right away. Thanks.
Of course, there are plenty of great UGL's out there who make their gear with a high level of qualuty control...not equivlaent to a U.S pharmacy quality control, but still very good none the less. I work for a UGL and have used primarily UGL my entire life...never had an issue...had a few bunk and under-dosed products, but by and large, things have been good. Knowing where to look makes a big difference.
There is no need to explain!
the best way for you to explain is give me the addy where the production is and ill have it check it right away if its true ore not
if its humangrade there is no need to be afraid of anything right?
the best way for you to explain is give me the addy where the production is and ill have it check it right away if its true ore not
if its humangrade there is no need to be afraid of anything right?
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Me to explain? Didn't you hear me say I don't work for WP? I am asking you to explain because I don't know the details of his operation or where his products are manufacured. My argument is based on the assumption that WP's products are what he says they are. My intention was not to 'defend" WP...he will tell you that himslef. I was only speaking about the differences in quality & price between pharm-grade/GMP prodycts and products made from chinese raws. So, if there is something you know...out with it. You are clearly trying to make a different point than myself.
He can give every IM member a 30% discount right off the bat. Obviously if he's doing that he's still making a profit so he's definitely marking his prices up.
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Dear EK,you are a joke..all info you need,see Asia Pharma Pharmaceuticals LTD - Home see videos and see all, go to Thailand and ask in pharmacy's if they sale Asia pharma and if its Thai FDA approved! As you can also contact Thai FDA,etc You think Thai government play games to put UGL and approved it..come...you are long time in business and you know that!
My brother OD wouldn't waste his breath on something unless its valid. You talk about price well I will talk about free will. No one is begging anyone to buy anything here or any other source because free will gives us our own choice. Your point on pricing? If that is what WP sales it for then why do you care? Heck I would even be willing to bet if you pm'd him he would send you some to test for free.
I've know OD forever and if he says its gtg, then count on it. Enjoy your free will.
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GUYS...WORLD-PHARMA.ORG AKA WP IS MY SHOP...LICENSED PHARMACY SHOP And i can sale only gmp made prods...so i sale all prods like Norma,Schering,Organon,Illi,Asia Pharma, Galenika,British dispansery,British dragon! I do not own any of this companys..if i own any.you know i was not need to post on forums,boards,etc ...
Im a joke?
Seriously? you do not know its illegal to sell UGL? asia pharma and british dragon is UGL tren e tren h mast e mast p etc is humangrade? did you fall a sleep in the medical school? give me your license number that you are verified seller of pharmaceuticals producst and in wich country!
tell me where asia pharma and british dragon is being produced so i can have people check them out if its a real company ore not they should have a office right?
as far i know all medical companies have some sort of a phone number and a adres where their main office is?
Seriously? you do not know its illegal to sell UGL? asia pharma and british dragon is UGL tren e tren h mast e mast p etc is humangrade? did you fall a sleep in the medical school? give me your license number that you are verified seller of pharmaceuticals producst and in wich country!
tell me where asia pharma and british dragon is being produced so i can have people check them out if its a real company ore not they should have a office right?
as far i know all medical companies have some sort of a phone number and a adres where their main office is?
What is the wrong with chinese raws? 90% of everything you buy is chinese
big pharmaceutical companies buy their raws from china
and how do you know they are gmp and manufactured in strict control? have you seen their factory? i guess not the only thing he have done is to post a video about production other then that nothing else
lets see some proof dont you agree?
big pharmaceutical companies buy their raws from china
and how do you know they are gmp and manufactured in strict control? have you seen their factory? i guess not the only thing he have done is to post a video about production other then that nothing else
lets see some proof dont you agree?
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Lets take a look at it then.
1. Raw material- where do they get there raws? I would guess a factory in china or one similar unless your saying they manufacture thier own raws inwhich case it should be even cheaper cause they dont have to reach a profit of just raws like other factories- and there is no proof out there that the raws that they use are of any better quality than ugl- so not sure where the cost difference comes there especially since they more than likely buy in bigger amounts than the UGLS. Meaning they would pay less.
Where does WHO gets their raws? Bro...I can't continue to do this. Am I am now supposed to guess who you are referring to?(just follow along who are we talking about? WP UGL and UGLs! Thought you were smart. This topic was beaten to death. (Cause you dont understand business and cost of doing it unfortunately) The bottom line is that finished UGL products cost less to produce than finished pharmaceutical/GMP products....end of story. (Yes exactly finally and what Bigmoe is comparing is what it cost himm to buy his GMP USA FDA gears whish is less than 150 dollars a bottle shit even you state you get it for 95) You are now going off into an entirely different topic, which I don't have the time or patenece for anymore(you really cant follow your own topic sad) (not to mention the question has already been answered), especially being that there has been no challenege. (are you completely dense we multiple people have tried to explain this to you and you have not answered it) Its old..its boring...move on and let the members decide for themslves based on what was already written. God knows they have read plenty from both of us.
2 Manufacturing process- They have a building, employees and really expensive equipment(supposedly)- This is the only difference between UGL and UGL WP-
Yes, pharmacuetical companies have the ABILITY to produce drugs which are gauaranteed to be both pure & potent...UGL's do not. What's your point? You do know that WP sells many "pharmacy-grade" drugs, right (Schering primo is one example)? WP is tehnically a UGL...the operation itself is, but their products aren't. They sell many products sourced directly from pharmacuetical companies, as well as other non-pharmacy products made under GMP guidelines. In the old days, all UGL's sold products diverted directly from pharmacies...prior to the laws getting harsh and the goverment cracking down on it. Today it is different, with most UGL sourcing their raw materials from China (everyon gets there raws from china!!!! name a company that makes its own raws?. So, whether a comopny is a UGL or not doesn't really matter. Today, few UGL's sell only pharm-grade/GMP made products. WP is one of them.--- again your post shows that you completely missed the point so let me spell it out for you again....
WP sells his gear for more than it is worth and not because of cost of production but because he wants more money. This is the point that is it that is what bigmoe myself and any one else that aposed your view was saying.
but the problem with this arguement is that Real FDA approved gear in the good ol US of A cost less tha 150 dollars a 10ml vial
I think you're mising the bigger picture. You need to READ my prior post which talks about the price of American steroids...not just testosterone. It's true that most American pharms sell a 10 ml vial of test for between $100-$130, while WP sells it for around $70-$80(wrong check the site 150dollars- no ones talking about his supposed deals sales by definition are temporary we can only compare listed price)...but when it comes to all the many other steroids BB'r use, American pharm-grade steroids are incredibly expensive. Anadrol is $20 per pill...Deca & Winstrol cost hundreds of dollars for a single 10 ml vial. Anavar costs many hundreds for 500 mg. Halotestin is atrocious. I won't go any further, because it doesn't get any better. There is no doubt at all that American gear is WAY more expensive than WP gear- all the latter drugs that you mention are almost impossible to get a script for so now your trying to compare apples to oranges cause its reall not that feesible to go to a pharmacy in the us and buy drols there for there is much less available so when comparing two with the same availability some how the US cost less HMMMM. supply and demand is part of business. The only american pharm AAS which even comes close is testosterone, but WP still sells it for $150(fixed for accuracy), compared to an American pharm's $100-$130 (on average).---I could easily get it for less.
and they have this exact same over head. and higher paid employees MUCH higher and higher cost of rent elctricity ECT.
Like I said, the question of finished cost has already been answered, making this a pointless question. You are still trying to argue a point which already been put to bed. I guess we could use the following anaolgy to describe your reluctance to admit defeat. I say the sky is blue...you say it is red....then we both look up and see that the sky is blue...the question has been answered...but you continue to argue that the sky is red because of atmospheric pollution. Doesn't make much sense, does it? So stop doing it. Man how do people respect you when you cant grasp simple concepts like why what cost what. I have already stated why your wrong here and you just dont understand. If you compare one gmp to another we'll call the first one "US"
and the second one "AP" well US has a higher cost of production and over head but AP products cost more to buy what is the explanation.....Greed
3 profit margin- I would wager a good amount that WP has alotted for a much greater profit margin......the reason why EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS ON SALE
Every AAS company has a high profit margin. (exactly so why is he so greedy than his margin obvioulsy has to be higher than that of american pharmacutical companies cause as i explained his over head is less and his products cost more)These guys are trying to make a "profit" after all...LOL. I mean, we already determined that WP gear only costs about $70-$80 per vial(false this is a sale his cost 150 dollars), while the typical UGl vial is between $40-$50. The difference is relatively small...certainly small enough to justify the slightly greater cost when we consider that pharmacy-grade/GMP gear COSTS more.(again we are comparing it to a us gmp fda so it does not cost more it cost less What don't you get about this? I seriously feel like I am either arguing with a retard or the most stubborn person in the world. Now, I can relate to the stubborness, but I typically only allow that personality train to take sway when I am right...as I am now. I will say it again...the question has bee answered! Here it is again for good measure..."Finished pharm-grade/GMP gear costs more to purchase than finished chinese made UGL gear". Understand yet? you really dont read do you let me explain for a fourth time. We are comparing fda gmp to fda gmp wow you read one post and then do not address the different issues with your statements.
So please where is the cost difference again?????? I hope you know more about steroids than business.
Hhahahahahahaha. I also answered this question IN DEPTH in a previous post. Can your new screen name be "wall"? I'm out...I have to pick up my daughter.
HOPE THIS HELPS!!!!
1. Raw material- where do they get there raws? I would guess a factory in china or one similar unless your saying they manufacture thier own raws inwhich case it should be even cheaper cause they dont have to reach a profit of just raws like other factories- and there is no proof out there that the raws that they use are of any better quality than ugl- so not sure where the cost difference comes there especially since they more than likely buy in bigger amounts than the UGLS. Meaning they would pay less.
Where does WHO gets their raws? Bro...I can't continue to do this. Am I am now supposed to guess who you are referring to?(just follow along who are we talking about? WP UGL and UGLs! Thought you were smart.
This topic was beaten to death. (Cause you dont understand business and cost of doing it unfortunately) The bottom line is that finished UGL products cost less to produce than finished pharmaceutical/GMP products....end of story. (Yes exactly finally and what Bigmoe is comparing is what it cost himm to buy his GMP USA FDA gears whish is less than 150 dollars a bottle shit even you state you get it for 95) You are now going off into an entirely different topic, which I don't have the time or patenece for anymore(you really cant follow your own topic sad) (not to mention the question has already been answered), especially being that there has been no challenege. (are you completely dense we multiple people have tried to explain this to you and you have not answered it) Its old..its boring...move on and let the members decide for themslves based on what was already written. God knows they have read plenty from both of us. 2 Manufacturing process- They have a building, employees and really expensive equipment(supposedly)- This is the only difference between UGL and UGL WP-
Yes, pharmacuetical companies have the ABILITY to produce drugs which are gauaranteed to be both pure & potent...UGL's do not. What's your point? You do know that WP sells many "pharmacy-grade" drugs, right (Schering primo is one example)? WP is tehnically a UGL...the operation itself is, but their products aren't. They sell many products sourced directly from pharmacuetical companies, as well as other non-pharmacy products made under GMP guidelines. In the old days, all UGL's sold products diverted directly from pharmacies...prior to the laws getting harsh and the goverment cracking down on it. Today it is different, with most UGL sourcing their raw materials from China (everyon gets there raws from china!!!! name a company that makes its own raws?. So, whether a comopny is a UGL or not doesn't really matter. Today, few UGL's sell only pharm-grade/GMP made products. WP is one of them.--- again your post shows that you completely missed the point so let me spell it out for you again....
WP sells his gear for more than it is worth and not because of cost of production but because he wants more money. This is the point that is it that is what bigmoe myself and any one else that aposed your view was saying.
but the problem with this arguement is that Real FDA approved gear in the good ol US of A cost less tha 150 dollars a 10ml vial
I think you're mising the bigger picture. You need to READ my prior post which talks about the price of American steroids...not just testosterone. It's true that most American pharms sell a 10 ml vial of test for between $100-$130, while WP sells it for around $70-$80(wrong check the site 150dollars- no ones talking about his supposed deals sales by definition are temporary we can only compare listed price)...but when it comes to all the many other steroids BB'r use, American pharm-grade steroids are incredibly expensive. Anadrol is $20 per pill...Deca & Winstrol cost hundreds of dollars for a single 10 ml vial. Anavar costs many hundreds for 500 mg. Halotestin is atrocious. I won't go any further, because it doesn't get any better. There is no doubt at all that American gear is WAY more expensive than WP gear- all the latter drugs that you mention are almost impossible to get a script for so now your trying to compare apples to oranges cause its reall not that feesible to go to a pharmacy in the us and buy drols there for there is much less available so when comparing two with the same availability some how the US cost less HMMMM
. supply and demand is part of business. The only american pharm AAS which even comes close is testosterone, but WP still sells it for $150(fixed for accuracy), compared to an American pharm's $100-$130 (on average).---I could easily get it for less.and they have this exact same over head. and higher paid employees MUCH higher and higher cost of rent elctricity ECT.
Like I said, the question of finished cost has already been answered, making this a pointless question. You are still trying to argue a point which already been put to bed. I guess we could use the following anaolgy to describe your reluctance to admit defeat. I say the sky is blue...you say it is red....then we both look up and see that the sky is blue...the question has been answered...but you continue to argue that the sky is red because of atmospheric pollution. Doesn't make much sense, does it? So stop doing it. Man how do people respect you when you cant grasp simple concepts like why what cost what. I have already stated why your wrong here and you just dont understand. If you compare one gmp to another we'll call the first one "US"
and the second one "AP" well US has a higher cost of production and over head but AP products cost more to buy what is the explanation.....Greed
3 profit margin- I would wager a good amount that WP has alotted for a much greater profit margin......the reason why EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS ON SALE
Every AAS company has a high profit margin. (exactly so why is he so greedy than his margin obvioulsy has to be higher than that of american pharmacutical companies cause as i explained his over head is less and his products cost more)These guys are trying to make a "profit" after all...LOL. I mean, we already determined that WP gear only costs about $70-$80 per vial(false this is a sale his cost 150 dollars), while the typical UGl vial is between $40-$50. The difference is relatively small...certainly small enough to justify the slightly greater cost when we consider that pharmacy-grade/GMP gear COSTS more.(again we are comparing it to a us gmp fda so it does not cost more it cost less
What don't you get about this? I seriously feel like I am either arguing with a retard or the most stubborn person in the world. Now, I can relate to the stubborness, but I typically only allow that personality train to take sway when I am right...as I am now. I will say it again...the question has bee answered! Here it is again for good measure..."Finished pharm-grade/GMP gear costs more to purchase than finished chinese made UGL gear". Understand yet? you really dont read do you let me explain for a fourth time. We are comparing fda gmp to fda gmp wow you read one post and then do not address the different issues with your statements.So please where is the cost difference again?????? I hope you know more about steroids than business.
Hhahahahahahaha. I also answered this question IN DEPTH in a previous post. Can your new screen name be "wall"? I'm out...I have to pick up my daughter.
HOPE THIS HELPS!!!!
Thank you thats what I am saying everyone is using raws from china!!!
I am seriously sorry about this i have no issue with your shop. I have considered buying from you many times. and I know you have GREAT gear. and you can charge what you like its not up to anyone to tell you what to charge. Its up to us to decide if we want to buy.
Its "mike the mod" I am slowly growing to dislike. Solely cause he cant follow a simle thread or comprehend simple explanations? then writes back a fuckin book that explains nothing and expects you to re-argue all your points. after insulting you.
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I absolutely agree with you wp, its so rediculous how some of these guys follow you around, wp is a great source which has some of the best gear on the net and has never to my knowledge scammed anyone. If you dont like his prices or think his gear is not worth it then let it be.
Who is talking about bad producst ore skyhigh prices ?
We are talking about how he is making false advertisement on producst that are not humangrade
We are talking about how he is making false advertisement on producst that are not humangrade
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All the same, why make it a point to attack this guy over and over, just looks like there is some kind of hidden agenda. I would understand if he was sending out bunk gear, then by all means fire away. I have actually had the chance to try out this guys stuff, were and how its made idk, what i do know is the gear is some good shit.
Probably because he makes the most annoying plugs about his products in threads he has no business posting while bashing UGLs every chance he gets saying they'll give you a terrible abscess. But that's just my observation.
