Christian repubs lol

[Zaphod]

nothing he posted there was emotion. perhaps previous posts were, but the one you were replying to certainly wasn't. Do you know what Roe VS. Wade says?

a woman has the right to an abortion without government interference before viability of the child. Second that the state has the right and power to restrict abortion after fetal viability as long as provisions are made for abortions in instances to protect the life and health of the mother. third it reaffirms fact the state has legitimate interests from the beginning of pregnancy in protecting the health of the woman, and life of the child.
this is according to Justice O'Conner

Christians, and all who find abortion deplorable are Constitutionally justified in voting for representatives, and laws to limit abortions and protect unborn children. But that isn't emotion. That is just cold hard facts from the supreme court of the united states.

Many states and the federal government are doing a pretty good job to limit that access to abortion. Based solely on christian beliefs.

 

[bio-chem]

Many states and the federal government are doing a pretty good job to limit that access to abortion. Based solely on christian beliefs.

it could be based on a belief in a flying spaghetti monster for all I care. It doesn't matter where your moral code gets defined from. Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Athiest, or whatever. you are allowed to vote for laws and representatives that hold to your ideals. That's the government you live in son. Show me a better government, and we will talk. According to the Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court of the United States, abortion can be regulated. We have an obligation to protect both a woman's right to privacy before the child becomes viable, but also to protect the fetus which can become a child. If you don't like it. Then go somewhere else where it's ok to kill children even after they have become viable outside of the womb.

 

[LAM]

Many states and the federal government are doing a pretty good job to limit that access to abortion. Based solely on christian beliefs.

the legislation is being passed as a guise on protecting the fetus when it's nothing more than an effort to keep the population in the US as high as possible for economic reasons. those that think politicians on the right "fight" for the fetus are blind as a bat, they fight for the consumption based economy that has ruined the US as politics and economics are one and the same in the US.

 

[heckler7]

welfare recipients cost US taxpayers about 60B a year while the US financial sector about 1T a year. now who's the bigger leech on the system?

welfare dues arent enough to raise a family and to concieve in disparity is child abuse. And dont be nieve and think most people on welfare arent blowing what little funds they have on drugs and alcohol, when that money should be feeding their child.

 

[240PLUS]

Thanks! So is yours.

2 Stupids don't make a smart lol!

 

[240PLUS]

serious? of course they're christians. and yes, christians quote the old testament all the time, in fact the belief that homosexuality is a sin is from the old testament only. Jesus never said anything about it. The funny thing is that christians always quote the old testament to show that homosexuality is a sin, but omit the part that says homo's should be put to death. I guess they get to pick and choose which scriptures to follow?

Phuckin Athiests...always pulling the old testament out of their ass. Tell me this (just as argument no pun intendid) what GOOD or FRUIT has HOMOSEXUALITY produced?

GIVE ME AT LEAST.... SAY 2 positives from homosexuality and I'll give you a Donut Shop that's never been visited by cops. Just sayin

 

[Zaphod]

it could be based on a belief in a flying spaghetti monster for all I care. It doesn't matter where your moral code gets defined from. Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Athiest, or whatever. you are allowed to vote for laws and representatives that hold to your ideals. That's the government you live in son. Show me a better government, and we will talk. According to the Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court of the United States, abortion can be regulated. We have an obligation to protect both a woman's right to privacy before the child becomes viable, but also to protect the fetus which can become a child. If you don't like it. Then go somewhere else where it's ok to kill children even after they have become viable outside of the womb.

But why don't christians want to respect a woman's right to privacy and access to abortion? You're just throwing up a strawman argument.

You aren't old enough to be calling me "son", son.

 

[Standard Donkey]

But why don't christians want to respect a woman's right to privacy and access to abortion? You're just throwing up a strawman argument.

oooooh! i know the answer to this one!

it's because christians don't see the gutting an unwanted human life out of the womb to be disposed of in a garbage receptacle as a woman's "right to privacy".

maybe we will be just as "evolved" and "forward-thinking" as you liberals someday"

maybe someday

 

[Zaphod]

oooooh! i know the answer to this one!

it's because christians don't see the gutting an unwanted human life out of the womb to be disposed of in a garbage receptacle as a woman's "right to privacy".

maybe we will be just as "evolved" and "forward-thinking" as you liberals someday"

maybe someday

But you won't take responsibility for the lives you save. Or are you only against abortion just so you can feel good about yourself?

 

[240PLUS]

Good luck on this one guys smh

 

[theCaptn']

Phuckin Athiests...always pulling the old testament out of their ass. Tell me this (just as argument no pun intendid) what GOOD or FRUIT has HOMOSEXUALITY produced?

GIVE ME AT LEAST.... SAY 2 positives from homosexuality and I'll give you a Donut Shop that's never been visited by cops. Just sayin

Homosexuality leaves more females available for retarded dudes like you to misunderstand and fail to satisfy

 

[Standard Donkey]

But you won't take responsibility for the lives you save. Or are you only against abortion just so you can feel good about yourself?

u still havent come up with a reason why christians should take responsibility for all the children that dont get aborted..

logic would dictate that the people who create the lives are responsible for them..

im really interested in hearing your reasoning

 

[bio-chem]

But why don't christians want to respect a woman's right to privacy and access to abortion? You're just throwing up a strawman argument.

You aren't old enough to be calling me "son", son.

What straw man are you talking about? All Christians don't vote as a block, and they certainly don't all vote Republican. If we did then Obama wouldn't have ever entered politics to begin with. let alone become president.

I've shown that Christians, and any others have the right to vote for laws that limit abortions. While some individuals may want to ban abortion altogether there has been no serious challenge to overturning Roe VS. Wade since the decision was announced. So again, I ask, Where is the Straw man?

The state has a right and an obligation to protect a fetus. This is established even in Roe v Wade. So my question back to you. Why doesn't those who are for abortion regardless of religious affiliation respect a Christians right to regulate it according to their conscience?

I don't care how old you are son. you still need to be taught like one.

 

[bio-chem]

looking back I should not have posted that last line. That was a cheap dig that didn't need to be said. If I could edit it out and erase that last line I would.

 

[bio-chem]

But you won't take responsibility for the lives you save. Or are you only against abortion just so you can feel good about yourself?

Why is it the liberals always think someone else should take responsibility for another persons actions? If you conceive a child I believe you should take responsibility for it. regardless of it not being "convenient" for you. If you are going to play with adult actions, you must accept adult responsibilities.

 

[bio-chem]

Homosexuality leaves more females available for retarded dudes like you to misunderstand and fail to satisfy

He asked for TWO reasons.

 

[theCaptn']

He asked for TWO reasons.

Well you can thank homosexuality for anal bleaching

 

[bio-chem]

Well you can thank homosexuality for anal bleaching

No credit for that one. That credit goes to Thai whores

 

[theCaptn']

No credit for that one. That credit goes to Thai whores

Sounds like you've led an interesting life

 

[Standard Donkey]

Why is it the liberals always think someone else should take responsibility for another persons actions? If you conceive a child I believe you should take responsibility for it. regardless of it not being "convenient" for you. If you are going to play with adult actions, you must accept adult responsibilities.

a liberal being held accountable for it's actions is like a snail having salt poured on it lmao

 

[bio-chem]

u still havent come up with a reason why christians should take responsibility for all the children that dont get aborted..

logic would dictate that the people who create the lives are responsible for them..

im really interested in hearing your reasoning

It's the same reasoning that states only the rich should pay taxes, that McDonalds is responsible for fat people, Tobacco companies should pay for cancer, and AR rifles caused sandy hook not a mentally unstable person in a bad healthcare system. Oh yeah, and I should have to pay for someones healthcare other than my own including abortions if they so elect to have one.

Basically it's that line of reasoning

 

[bio-chem]

Sounds like you've led an interesting life

Southeast Asia.

 

[exphys88]

Phuckin Athiests...always pulling the old testament out of their ass. Tell me this (just as argument no pun intendid) what GOOD or FRUIT has HOMOSEXUALITY produced?

GIVE ME AT LEAST.... SAY 2 positives from homosexuality and I'll give you a Donut Shop that's never been visited by cops. Just sayin

That's an irrelevant question, although statistically some of the worlds greatest inventors, musicians, teachers, soldiers have been homosexuals.

And it's those that oppose homosexuality that pull out the Old Testament, since Jesus never condemned it. The problem is that Christians quote Leviticus when arguing that its a sin, yet they ignore the part that says its punishable by death.

 

[bio-chem]

That's an irrelevant question, although statistically some of the worlds greatest inventors, musicians, teachers, soldiers have been homosexuals.

And it's those that oppose homosexuality that pull out the Old Testament, since Jesus never condemned it. The problem is that Christians quote Leviticus when arguing that its a sin, yet they ignore the part that says its punishable by death.

Christians don't ignore the part that says it's punishable by death. They just recognize the new testament as well and the higher law as given to us by Jesus. Homosexuality as a sin didn't change, but how we are to treat the sinner did. There is nothing hypocritical about it. When an adulterer was brought before Jesus for judgement he didn't say that adultery was no longer a sin. He acknowledged the sin, and the sinner, then gave new instruction on treating the sin and sinner. New instruction for both the sinner, and the populace. All sexual sin can be viewed as such. From Adultery to Homosexuality. The simplicity and purity of the teachings of Christ are really remarkable.

 

[Zaphod]

Why is it the liberals always think someone else should take responsibility for another persons actions? If you conceive a child I believe you should take responsibility for it. regardless of it not being "convenient" for you. If you are going to play with adult actions, you must accept adult responsibilities.

Why is it that christians are so concerned with bringing more lives into this world and once they are born they wash their hands of them? Bringing more lives into this world is an adult action, being responsible for those lives is an adult responsibility.

 

[theCaptn']

Christians don't ignore the part that says it's punishable by death. They just recognize the new testament as well and the higher law as given to us by Jesus. Homosexuality as a sin didn't change, but how we are to treat the sinner did. There is nothing hypocritical about it. When an adulterer was brought before Jesus for judgement he didn't say that adultery was no longer a sin. He acknowledged the sin, and the sinner, then gave new instruction on treating the sin and sinner. New instruction for both the sinner, and the populace. All sexual sin can be viewed as such. From Adultery to Homosexuality. The simplicity and purity of the teachings of Christ are really remarkable.

Have you ever considered the practical reasons why the bible might have anti-gay sentiments?

I'll warn you now, thinking through this question may require critical thinking

 

[240PLUS]

Homosexuality leaves more females available for retarded dudes like you to misunderstand and fail to satisfy

Your so cool Captain....sailing the 7 seas. Godamn Gordon Fisherman...phucking lame ass. Go do some more benching or something with your club muscles lol!!

 

[240PLUS]

That's an irrelevant question, although statistically some of the worlds greatest inventors, musicians, teachers, soldiers have been homosexuals.

And it's those that oppose homosexuality that pull out the Old Testament, since Jesus never condemned it. The problem is that Christians quote Leviticus when arguing that its a sin, yet they ignore the part that says its punishable by death.

Why is it irrelevant sir?

 

[240PLUS]

What does sentiment mean? Should I be Jewish to know that word?

 

[exphys88]

Christians don't ignore the part that says it's punishable by death. They just recognize the new testament as well and the higher law as given to us by Jesus. Homosexuality as a sin didn't change, but how we are to treat the sinner did. There is nothing hypocritical about it. When an adulterer was brought before Jesus for judgement he didn't say that adultery was no longer a sin. He acknowledged the sin, and the sinner, then gave new instruction on treating the sin and sinner. New instruction for both the sinner, and the populace. All sexual sin can be viewed as such. From Adultery to Homosexuality. The simplicity and purity of the teachings of Christ are really remarkable.

Lol, so the sins in the Old Testament are still a sin?

Here's some examples from Leviticus, the same book that says homosexuality is a sin:

That'll shall not cut the hair on the side of your head, nor trim the beard.

Do not wear clothing of different material

You're not supposed to marry a widow.

The list goes on and on, yet these sins are ignored. Would you vote for a law against trimming beards?