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Think so?
Go live in the woods for a month and try and survive without using any product that is made from oil.
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Think so?
Go live in the woods for a month and try and survive without using any product that is made from oil.
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Many people have no clue as to how many products they use daily and depend on are oil based.
The number is extensive.
In example did you brush your teeth today with a toothbrush and toothpaste?
If so you used two oil based products.
The number is extensive.
In example did you brush your teeth today with a toothbrush and toothpaste?
If so you used two oil based products.
and this is one of the greatest problems with how the current global economy is designed, infinite growth of GDP tied to a finite resource and the petro-dollar. if you ever go to the websites of the World Bank, the FSB and the Club of Rome they all talk about how the global financial system is unsustainable and needs to be changed because of this, it's one big giant house of cards.
this is of course of of the major taboo subjects that US media outlets are forbidden to speak about, anything that has to do with the eventual replacement of the dollar as the world's #1 reserve currency, because it's not a matter of if but of when and with OPEC starting to sell oil in other currency's it's just a matter of time as the US simply can not afford to continue to use the military to protect the petro-dollar for much longer.
Try not to think so much about
The truly staggering amount of oil that it takes to make a record
All the shipping, the vinyl, the cellophane lining
The high gloss
The tape and the gear
Try not to become too consumed
With what's a criminal volume of oil that it takes to paint a portrait
The acrylic, the varnish
Aluminum tubes filled with latex
The solvents and dye
Lets just call this what it is
The gentler side of mankind's death wish
When it's my time to go
Gonna leave behind things that won't decompose
all those stupid fucking plastic clam-shells containers that products come in from retailers, plastic containers for soda, water, etc. , all that shit is derived from oil.
what do you think would be the biggest challenge? cuz i'm not seeing there is one. be a lot easier than going in the woods and living without water.
make a hut with trees and grass. stuff a cotton sack with milkweed to sleep on. wool blankets. cotton sheets. burn wood for fuel. eat food. hunt with a bow n arrows. make medicines from birch bark and honey. forage for apples, berries, catch fish with bamboo pole and cotton, silk, or linen line. etc etc etc.
bamboo toothbrush with paste made from coconut oil and baking soda.
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It's easier said than done.
Think about it.
Review this list, see how much of your stuff is on it that you could do without and get rid of all of it.
Petroleum Based Products: A Long List: Save and Conserve
[h=3]Petroleum Based Products: A Long List[/h]
First list found on Ranken-energy.com:
ammonia
anesthetics
antifreeze
antihistamines
antiseptics
artificial limbs
artificial turf
aspirin
awnings
balloons
ballpoint pens
bandages
basketballs
bearing grease
bicycle tires
boats
cameras
candles
car battery cases
car enamel
cassettes
caulking
cd player
cd's
clothes
clothesline
cold cream
combs
cortisone
crayons
curtains
dashboards
denture adhesive
dentures
deodorant
detergents
dice
diesel
dishes
dishwasher
dresses
drinking cups
dyes
electric blankets
electrician's tape
enamel
epoxy
eyeglasses
fan belts
faucet washers
fertilizers
fishing boots
fishing lures
fishing rods
floor wax
folding doors
food preservatives
football cleats
football helmets
footballs
footballs
gasoline
glycerin
golf bags
golf balls
guitar strings
hair coloring
hair curlers
hand lotion
heart valves
house paint
ice chests
ice cube trays
ink
insect repellent
insecticides
life jackets
linings
linoleum
lipstick
luggage
model cars
mops
motor oil
motorcycle helmet
movie film
nail polish
nylon rope
oil filters
paint
paint brushes
paint rollers
panty hose
parachutes
percolators
perfumes
petroleum jelly
pillows
plastic wood
purses
putty
refrigerant
refrigerators
roller skates
roofing
rubber cement
rubbing alcohol
safety glasses
shag rugs
shampoo
shaving cream
shoe polish
shoes
shower curtains
skis
slacks
soap
soft contact lenses
solvents
speakers
sports car bodies
sun glasses
surf boards
sweaters
synthetic rubber
telephones
tennis rackets
tents
tires
toilet seats
tool boxes
tool racks
toothbrushes
toothpaste
transparent tape
trash bags
tv cabinets
umbrellas
upholstery
vaporizers
vitamin capsules
water pipes
wheels
yarn
Second list found on Gasprices-usa.com:
air conditioners
ammonia
anti-histamines
antiseptics
artificial turf
asphalt
aspirin
balloons
bandages
boats
bottles
bras
bubble gum
butane
cameras
candles
car batteries
car bodies
carpet
cassette tapes
caulking
cds
chewing gum
combs/brushes
computers
contacts
cortisone
crayons
cream
denture adhesives
deodorant
detergents
dice
dishwashing liquid
dresses
dryers
electric blankets
electrician?s tape
fertilizers
fishing lures
fishing rods
floor wax
footballs
glues
glycerin
golf balls
guitar strings
hair
hair coloring
hair curlers
hearing aids
heart valves
heating oil
house paint
ice chests
ink
insect repellent
insulation
jet fuel
life jackets
linoleum
lip balm
lipstick
loudspeakers
medicines
mops
motor oil
motorcycle helmets
movie film
nail polish
oil filters
paddles
paint brushes
paints
parachutes
paraffin
pens
perfumes
petroleum jelly
plastic chairs
plastic cups
plastic forks
plastic wrap
plastics
plywood adhesives
refrigerators
roller-skate wheels
roofing paper
rubber bands
rubber boots
rubber cement
rubbish bags
running shoes
saccharine
seals
shirts (non-cotton)
shoe polish
shoes
shower curtains
solvents
spectacles
stereos
sweaters
table tennis balls
tape recorders
telephones
tennis rackets
thermos
tights
toilet seats
toners
toothpaste
transparencies
transparent tape
tv cabinets
typewriter/computer ribbons
tires
umbrellas
upholstery
vaporizers
vitamin capsules
volleyballs
water pipes
water skis
wax
wax paper
can't find it in a hurry but my dad told me people used to clean their teeth with frayed twig you fray it by chewing it and ashes from your fire.
this si a very biased list. how much of this crap did cave men have and yet here we are. looks like they made it.
that list is crazy. i need oil to have hair?
i deleted all the ones i can survive without. they are a matter of convenience not survival.
cotton, wool, linen, leather. beeswax, aloe, herbal remedies, birch bark. clay tiles, adobe...
think outside the box.
think outside the box.
I don't know what you two are arguing about but we know the human species can survive without oil. We also know that all these people talking about how evil oil is don't actually want to give it up.
if i had the opportunity to go live a simple life in a yurt where i could hunt n fish etc survive like the old days i'd do it. seriously. the idea appeals to me and always has. i spent years wanting to marry this guy when i was a kid The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, spent the best times of my life here
with no electricity, running water, or oil furnace. you poop in an outhouse...
i daydream about weird shit like moving to mongolia or some tibetan monks place high on a mountain... maybe a yurt in alaska or a tarzan treehouse deep in the heart of some uncharted jungle or life on a deserted island. my favorite dreams i prob wrote about here somewhere... post apocalypse survival ones scouting for water and a safe place to hole up. i started writing a book about a woman researcher than gets dropped into alaska to study the psychological effects of being willingly isolated from all human contact for 3 years....
doesn't anyone have a sense of adventure? something wild lurking deep inside them anymore?
with no electricity, running water, or oil furnace. you poop in an outhouse...
i daydream about weird shit like moving to mongolia or some tibetan monks place high on a mountain... maybe a yurt in alaska or a tarzan treehouse deep in the heart of some uncharted jungle or life on a deserted island. my favorite dreams i prob wrote about here somewhere... post apocalypse survival ones scouting for water and a safe place to hole up. i started writing a book about a woman researcher than gets dropped into alaska to study the psychological effects of being willingly isolated from all human contact for 3 years....
doesn't anyone have a sense of adventure? something wild lurking deep inside them anymore?
i am disappoint at all you girly men and your need for a soft life. 
moving to land of vikings and porn.
moving to land of vikings and porn.
When does your ship set sail?
it's not that oil is evil it's the fact that the foundation of the global economy resides on oil and the dollar hedge-money. the fact is having the USD tied to the majority of OPEC crude sails has brought unjust harm to other economy's that have nothing at all to do with the US economy, except for oil transactions, it's why the dollar must and will go eventually.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dol...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
It was a law passed by congress (Fair Labor Standards Act) that made the 40 hour work week, not the unions.
cotton, wool, linen, leather. beeswax, aloe, herbal remedies, birch bark. clay tiles, adobe...
think outside the box.
Are you freaking serious? When you go on these tantrums just to make some completely meaningless point as if you are Henry David Thoreau trying to live on Walden pond in a world with 7 BILLION people, it's just comical. This abstract thinking isn't impressive nor is is pragmatic, its called delusional.
And what driving force put this law into place? Are you so daft you can't do a simple back tracking to see the root cause for such laws lies in the battles the unions fought so YOU don't work slave hours with no benefits and paid time off, no to mention so many other benefits we currently enjoy? This blind disregard for facts is a primary reason Americans are so susceptible to influence from the media, be it progressive or conservative in nature depending on the source. Open your mind up to the fact you have been brainwashed to believe what others think is best for you when in reality that is so far from the truth.
yes he is...he's been brainwashed into thinking that "government" can do only bad and that the "free market" solves all problems despite history, that which he learned from watching ron paul videos from youtube. he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
in Maine we call it camping. are you not at all aware of the trend toward homesteading and living naturally? no it won't be for everyone but some people will go all the way and it would not kill the rest to make changes. we don't need to chug oil like we do. continuing to do so is what's fucking delusional.
and yes i'm serious. some women want a mansion in beverly hill some have different ideas of what would be heavenly. how about you go fuck yourself with your ragging on me? k.
have to wonder at the personality ... or maybe a man's success rate with women? current state of marital discord? when he takes playful tongue in cheek shit as a "tantrum". if you're married your wife must be a real charmer.
Thanks, I'll comment as I please. I got better things to do than rage on you and if you think criticism equates to rage, I'm the least of your worries.
Yes, the PICU attending doctor I am in a relationship with, who cares for children is actually a very good person and she would say the same things I do; actually she would rip into another woman a lot harder than I ever would that was being so unreasonable. Good try though LW
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your inability to consider that a challenge like that might actually be invigorating has me worried. no sense of adventure at all? getting back to nature never stirred the slightest interest in you?
and ragging = nagging not rage.
My interests are many, halting progress and going back in time 150 years is not one of them. De-evolving is not a solution to energy consumption, that is backward thinking at its finest. This is the last I will say on the matter, it's getting to be a pointless argument.
