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Pope Urges Compassion, Then Denounces Abortion

ill never understand your fascination with my father.. also god doesn't abort babies lmao wtf? is there a gas leak in your house?

it's not about yourr father. it's about you hunkered down there afraid to live, afraid to even get your dick wet, and presuming to tell others how to live and make personal choices. you got no ground to stand on.
 
the pope doesn't live here or dictate policy here. here we have rabid conservatives waging war on the poor. they want to end abortion but those same politicians vote to deny hungry kids free lunch during the school day etc. voted against the job bill, vote against wage increases... wtf do they want? more hungry kids in America?
 
it's not about yourr father. it's about you hunkered down there afraid to live, afraid to even get your dick wet, and presuming to tell others how to live and make personal choices. you got no ground to stand on.

i just think it's wrong that people want to kill their babies..that's all.. u seem real stuck on my innocence tho, u tryna fuck?
 
i just think it's wrong that people want to kill their babies..that's all.. u seem real stuck on my innocence tho, u tryna fuck?

even people for abortion think it's wrong but this is not utopia. we need to consider reality.

not tryna fuck you but son, you need to get laid before that psychological barrier is too strong to ever tear down.
 
70, some sources say it's more like 80, percent of ALL fertilized eggs which are beginning to become babies do not even implant on the uterine wall. they are life, they are dividing and most often perfect and if you believe god has a hand in everything he decides they will just be flushed out of the body as waste. then you have the ones that are implanted in a fallopian tube. that's fun. you have your born dead. that's so fun for the mother. you got your cripples, retards, brain deads, kids born with their organs outside their bodies... i actually know a kid that was born with no asshole. doctors had to make it one:shrug: doesn't seem to me god has much of a better outcome than abortion at a pretty high percentage rate. maybe he's trying to control population? god or nature does abort babies. look up spontaneous abortion and implantation rate.
Despite all the shit that can go wrong, the amazing thing is how many are born completely healthy. You really need to stop with this God aborting babies argument. You look foolish as not a single person reading it give the argument a bit of credibility. You are starting to look like LAM who has lost touch with reality

ultimately though, as a woman who has pushed two babies out of her vagina....one weighing 5 pounds and one weighing 8 ... i say a woman gets to decide for herself if she's ready for that. piss an egg then you have a right to argue. if you believe the bible birth pain is a punishment from god.

When a man and woman decide to have sex they take the responsibility for that. Whether that be a baby, an STD, or simply the emotional connection that may or may not be wanted. The decision comes when she has sex, not 6 weeks later when she pisses on a stick that tells her she is pregnant. It is laughable that a woman would argue a man has no say because he doesn't have a vagina, that has no say when it is both their child, and if the woman decides to keep it instead of aborting then he has to pay. Shouldn't a guy get to decide she has to have an abortion if he doesn't want to pay for the next 18 years? Just because you've pushed two puppies out of your vagina doesn't mean you are any more qualified than a man to have an opinion regarding abortion.
 
it's not about yourr father. it's about you hunkered down there afraid to live, afraid to even get your dick wet, and presuming to tell others how to live and make personal choices. you got no ground to stand on.

i've got to disagree with you here. A person who actually practices personal accountability and chooses to not have sex, or at least does it responsibly has in my opinion more ground to stand on. That is a person who practices what they preach. We need more personal accountability, not less. A person who makes the choice to not have sex isn't afraid. I can promise you that. fear isn't really that big a motivator when it comes to the desire to fornicate. fear is something pretty easy to overcome. Choosing to wait is if anything something society should want to hold up as the standard, instead of ridicule.

I can promise you the majority of women if asked would they do things differently for their first time would say they would rather have waited longer before losing their virginity than say they waited too long and wish they would have fucked sooner. something to mull over next time you want to attack someone for making a responsible personal choice.
 
When a man and woman decide to have sex they take the responsibility for that. Whether that be a baby, an STD, or simply the emotional connection that may or may not be wanted. The decision comes when she has sex, not 6 weeks later when she pisses on a stick that tells her she is pregnant. It is laughable that a woman would argue a man has no say because he doesn't have a vagina, that has no say when it is both their child, and if the woman decides to keep it instead of aborting then he has to pay. Shouldn't a guy get to decide she has to have an abortion if he doesn't want to pay for the next 18 years? Just because you've pushed two puppies out of your vagina doesn't mean you are any more qualified than a man to have an opinion regarding abortion.
Very well put.
 
When a man and woman decide to have sex they take the responsibility for that. Whether that be a baby, an STD, or simply the emotional connection that may or may not be wanted. The decision comes when she has sex, not 6 weeks later when she pisses on a stick that tells her she is pregnant. It is laughable that a woman would argue a man has no say because he doesn't have a vagina, that has no say when it is both their child, and if the woman decides to keep it instead of aborting then he has to pay. Shouldn't a guy get to decide she has to have an abortion if he doesn't want to pay for the next 18 years? Just because you've pushed two puppies out of your vagina doesn't mean you are any more qualified than a man to have an opinion regarding abortion.

it's incredibly benevolent of you to assume everyone having sex has the maturity level of being a man or a woman. they do not. not everyone that fucks wants to procreate and it's legal in this country to terminate an unintended pregnancy. that is not going to change. you're free to have an opinion but you need to realize that's all it is and you don't have the right to run anyone's life or make THEIR decisions based on it.

and laugh the fuck out loud at your not liking abortion because of some noble reasons "Shouldn't a guy get to decide she has to have an abortion if he doesn't want to pay for the next 18 years? if a man wants a say in a woman's reproductive life maybe he should i dunno, MARRY her before he fucks her.
 
and giving birth sure as hell makes me more qualified to support women who are not ready for that in determining for themselves when to have children.
 
Very well put.

yes because two men so concerned with the precious lives of babies are okay calling them puppies. all you do is prove my point.
 
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the only fool i see is the political horses ass that votes to spare the precious child then votes to not feed it.
 
so a virgin, a conservative and a sexual freak enter a bodybuilding forum to argue about abortion the virgins say " abortion is wrong god says so " the conservative says " poor people are the problem " the sex freak says " rich people are the problem" Baby Jesus says " do you guys even lift?"
 
so a virgin, a conservative and a sexual freak enter a bodybuilding forum to argue about abortion the virgins say " abortion is wrong god says so " the conservative says " poor people are the problem " the sex freak says " rich people are the problem" Baby Jesus says " do you guys even lift?"

Hahaha. That was awesome.
 
finally, a voice of reason. :coffee:
 
yes because two men so concerned with the precious lives of babies are okay calling them puppies. all you do is prove my point.

You've yet to make a point in this entire thread. I'm still waiting for something to even remotely resemble a point.
 
abortion is a reasonable solution to idiots fucking. religion is an unreasonable barrier to reasonable solutions.
 
religion is for gullible fools. there is no god. deal with it.
 
and giving birth sure as hell makes me more qualified to support women who are not ready for that in determining for themselves when to have children.

no, i'm sorry, it really doesn't. you are no more qualified for that than anyone on here. it's funny that you would set yourself on that pedestal though. i'm pretty sure anyone with a heartbeat is qualified to support a woman in determining for themselves when to have children. The time for that determination however is before she is pregnant. not after. I mean holy shit, what kind of fucked up world do we live in that the standard for determining when it's ok to have a baby is after one is already pregnant!?
 
it's incredibly benevolent of you to assume everyone having sex has the maturity level of being a man or a woman. thank you they do not. Not everyone that fucks wants to procreate and it's legal in this country to terminate an unintended pregnancy. we agree it's legal, doesn't make it rightthat is not going to change.i don't think it should change, and have said so you're free to have an opinion but you need to realize that's all it is and you don't have the right to run anyone's life or make their decisions based on it. i'm not running their life, and being against abortion isn't running their life, or making their decisions for them

and laugh the fuck out loud at your not liking abortion because of some noble reasons "shouldn't a guy get to decide she has to have an abortion if he doesn't want to pay for the next 18 years? If a man wants a say in a woman's reproductive life maybe he should i dunno, marry her before he fucks her.i agree, he should marry her in that scenario, however my point was that when a woman conceives a child she has already chosen to make him a part of her reproductive cycle

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a woman yes. a woman will think, feel, care, and plan just as someone worthy of the word man will. in a perfect world it would be this simple. it's not. it is unfortunate that people are so against abortion, and so frustrated with being unable to make it illegal, that they are attacking places like family planning. fp provides services that actually help so many babies and young children. the pope's condemnation of abortion will just make the blindly obedient double down in taking valuable resources away from the most vulnerable children in our society.
 
prove there are no unicorns, leprechauns, and faeries. :coffee:
 
prove there are no unicorns, leprechauns, and faeries. :coffee:

I don't remember making blanket statements saying that there are no unicorns, leprechauns, or faeries. You on the other hand have emphatically stated there is no God. So prove it.

Ive seen no evidence to lead me to believe in unicorns, leprechauns, and faeries. Therefore I don't believe in them. I have however seen amazing amounts of evidence that there is a God. I can't help but look around at the world around me everyday, or hold a newborn baby, and not see evidence of God. Every time I lay with a naked woman I have to laugh at all the idiots who think a few million years of random monkey sex could possibly lead to the simply divine creation that is our female gender.
 
the pope's condemnation of abortion will just make the blindly obedient double down in taking valuable resources away from the most vulnerable children in our society.

I've seen no evidence that Catholics in the US vote the way you suspect they will. Have any stats to back up your statement?
 
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