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[jay_steel]

we pay a shit ton more here than in Canada for the EXACT same meds. EXACT.

you do realize that drugs have nothing to do with insurance right. It is because of lobbyist and people controlling the market. Medication is not going to go down with Obama care. Medicine needs to go down, but the federal gov't can not force a business to reduce to price of drugs. Please go read the healthcare package and understand it more.

 

[jay_steel]

Sorry to the original poster that your thread got this badly hijacked. Even the 2 pages on creationism vs evolution was more relevant than this

it has everything to do with it...

It shows how much people are devolving in intelligence. Idiocracy is in effect.

 

[Little Wing]

well my side won already. it's the law of the land, declared constitutional, the ball is in motion. we shall see if it destroys the USA.

 

[jay_steel]

well my side won already. it's the law of the land, declared constitutional, the ball is in motion. we shall see if it destroys the USA.

Your right your side did win... The Gov't... my side lost... The People

 

[Little Wing]

you do realize that drugs have nothing to do with insurance right. It is because of lobbyist and people controlling the market. Medication is not going to go down with Obama care. Medicine needs to go down, but the federal gov't can not force a business to reduce to price of drugs. Please go read the healthcare package and understand it more.

tell that to a person who can only afford their meds because of their insurance.

 

[BigKevKris]

LOL...your side won.....hilarious....what exactly did "your side" win?

 

[jay_steel]

but you never answered me this...

How is it justified to make some one pay from traditional medicine if they will not use it because it is against their beliefs. If their belief is holistic medicine and natural medicine no one can ever force them to use it, but how it if far for the gov't to force them to pay for it?

 

[Little Wing]

again. not apples to apples as Canada has a national healthcare system. Oh yeah, in case you were wondering Canadians don't receive the same level of healthcare. Private healthcare organizations are popping up all over canada that citizens pay extra for so that they can receive better and faster treatment. Also, the ones who can afford it come to the United States still for care. Would you like to comment? I speak to healthcare providers in Canada all the time LW. I can't tell you how many of them have told me we made a mistake with Obamacare.

Im continually giving you real world examples of why you should believe me. Why won't you listen?

Sergio lives in Canada. I'm completely aware of how things are there. There is a waiting list if your problems aren't dire but you get fast care when they are.

 

[jay_steel]

tell that to a person who can only afford their meds because of their insurance.

it just shows how ignorant people are if they think drugs are expensive because of insurance lol. prescription drugs in Canada are much cheaper with no prescription then they are here. Its because of market. They charge a higher rate and take advantage of insurance companies..

Again this statement is fucking stupid... Because the bronze package of Obama care doesnt cover shit for prescriptions lol. What you fail to realize is its not going to save people money it just FORCES people to pay the gov't.... WHY CANT YOU UNDERSTAND!!

 

[Little Wing]

but you never answered me this...

How is it justified to make some one pay from traditional medicine if they will not use it because it is against their beliefs. If their belief is holistic medicine and natural medicine no one can ever force them to use it, but how it if far for the gov't to force them to pay for it?

why do people without kids pay taxes for schools? the housebound pay for roads? people that don't eat meat pay taxes to have meat inspected.

 

[jay_steel]

Sergio lives in Canada. I'm completely aware of how things are there. There is a waiting list if your problems aren't dire but you get fast care when they are.

they also base treatment off of age which is why many Canadians cross over to the US for major surgeries.

 

[jay_steel]

why do people without kids pay taxes for schools? the housebound pay for roads? people that don't eat meat pay taxes to have meat inspected.

But it does not force them to have it... It is a difference to pay taxes... They are paying for insurance... There is a difference between a 20$ tax increase to cover obama care then a 300 dollar forced payment for insurance coverage.... Again apples to oranges...

 

[jay_steel]

why do people without kids pay taxes for schools? the housebound pay for roads? people that don't eat meat pay taxes to have meat inspected.

those are also county taxes for roads and schools not all counties pay taxes for schools... that is something that is state ran and country driven... Again not federal law

 

[Little Wing]

it just shows how ignorant people are if they think drugs are expensive because of insurance lol. prescription drugs in Canada are much cheaper with no prescription then they are here. Its because of market. They charge a higher rate and take advantage of insurance companies..

Again this statement is fucking stupid... Because the bronze package of Obama care doesnt cover shit for prescriptions lol. What you fail to realize is its not going to save people money it just FORCES people to pay the gov't.... WHY CANT YOU UNDERSTAND!!

you have the right to buy a better plan.

 

[jay_steel]

you have the right to buy a better plan.

ok so you really think the poor is going to be able to pay for the silver package which only covers 70% which is MUCH more expensive when the ONLY good package there is which is the gold package which covers 90 that I cant even afford and my house hold pulls over a 100k

have you read how ridiculous the out of pocket expenses are with this? What research have you done?

The only thing this bill does is force people to buy into gov't insurance

 

[jay_steel]

For me to have the Silver plan for my wife and I it would be 12,000$ a year i just applied for it based on their est calc. FUCK THAT!!!

 

[jay_steel]

well time to hit the gym... done waiting for you to google some thing else.

 

[jay_steel]

and keep it back on topic I Invite you all to my Church on sunday... If your not where I live which im not disclosing you can PM me and i will send you the pod cast God Bless you all.

 

[Little Wing]

In 2014, the fine to remain uninsured is $95 per person (up to a family maximum of $285, or 1 percent of family income, whichever is greater).

 

[Little Wing]

Who is eligible for such exemptions?
You can be exempted from the requirement to buy health insurance ? and hence, from the penalty ? if you meet one of the following requirements:
?You are uninsured for less than three months of the year.
?You live illegally in the United States.
?You?re incarcerated, and not awaiting disposition.
?You?re a member of a recognized Indian tribe.
?Your income is officially deemed too low.
?The lowest-priced converge would cost more than 8 percent of your household income.
?You?re a member of a recognized religious sect with religious objections to insurance, including Social Security and Medicare.
?You?re a member of a recognized health-sharing ministry. (Note: Christian Scientists do not currently qualify for the exemption.)
Healthcare.gov also provides a list of hardship exemptions that qualify an individual for exemption.
This flow chart from the Kaiser Family Foundation might help you determine if you need to buy health insurance.

The Religious Alternative To Obamacare's Individual Mandate : NPR

not hard to find a loophole.

 

[Little Wing]

and keep it back on topic I Invite you all to my Church on sunday... If your not where I live which im not disclosing you can PM me and i will send you the pod cast God Bless you all.

your church might be interested in the medical co op exemption.

 

[Little Wing]

For me to have the Silver plan for my wife and I it would be 12,000$ a year i just applied for it based on their est calc. FUCK THAT!!!

if, God forbid, one of you is struck by a catastrophic illness I fear $12,000 will seem like chicken feed. you're looking at 2 grand a day there JUST for hospital room.

 

[Little Wing]

 

[LAM]

ok so you really think the poor is going to be able to pay for the silver package which only covers 70% which is MUCH more expensive when the ONLY good package there is which is the gold package which covers 90 that I cant even afford and my house hold pulls over a 100k

have you read how ridiculous the out of pocket expenses are with this? What research have you done?

The only thing this bill does is force people to buy into gov't insurance

you mean like all of us small business owners are required to carry like liability, workers compensation, errors and omissions, etc.?

 

[LAM]

you do realize that drugs have nothing to do with insurance right. It is because of lobbyist and people controlling the market. Medication is not going to go down with Obama care. Medicine needs to go down, but the federal gov't can not force a business to reduce to price of drugs. Please go read the healthcare package and understand it more.

no but what the could do is allow people to openly buy drugs from Canada, which we can not. that would help to put downward pressure on prices.

they have done it with wages in various sectors of the workforce, but they have no high powered special interest groups, lobbyists or PAC's and that's the only difference.

 

[Christsean]

So did we ever determine if Jesus was real or if he supports Obama Care????

 

[Curt James]

SheriV, please tell me you are not confusing the Pagan Roman Empire of the time of Christ (which I was clearly referring, as that is the obvious time period we are discussing if Aristocrats were to invent the Christian Religion as this theory states) to the Holy Roman Empire that sent the crusades over a thousand years later? Surely you are smarter than that? Pull out an 8th Grade history book and educate yourself a bit with the required reading before you step into a conversation you are clearly not prepared for.

B-b-but you didn't SAY Pagan Roman Empire!

Jesus is so going to kill you.

 

[Curt James]

no but what the could do is allow people to openly buy drugs from Canada, which we can not. that would help to put downward pressure on prices.

they have done it with wages in various sectors of the workforce, but they have no high powered special interest groups, lobbyists or PAC's and that's the only difference.

What does Jesus have to say about the GDP?

 

[LAM]

What does Jesus have to say about the GDP?

it's sluggish growth from now on people, the party is over in the US.

 

[the_predator]

if, God forbid, one of you is struck by a catastrophic illness I fear $12,000 will seem like chicken feed. you're looking at 2 grand a day there JUST for hospital room.

^Im sorry, I'm a bit confused. Do you believe in God or not, because in the post after this one you made a "funny with cats" post about Jesus not existing, yet you clearly refer to God in the above post?