It was declared constitutional because it is a tax and the gov't has the right to levy taxes. Aren't you the one complaining about how we are overtaxed, and the government needs to leave us alone?
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It was declared constitutional because it is a tax and the gov't has the right to levy taxes. Aren't you the one complaining about how we are overtaxed, and the government needs to leave us alone?
You are ok with this? WTF is wrong with you? You are complaining about how your mother died due to poor medical care here in the states, but you are ok with waiting lists when things are deemed not dire? you know how easy it is to rule something as not dire when it really is dire. Lets say you need a reconstruction on your knee. Well guess what, it's not dire so get on the waiting list. never mind the fact that here in the states you could have the surgery and be done with rehab and back on your feet back to work here in the states while in Canada you are simply put on the waiting list because it's not dire. Tell that to the man who needs the surgery to get back to work so he can feed his family. disability only lasts so long LW. You are supporting something that is so fraught with obvious problems, and is so dangerous to an already broken system and you are doing it by blinding yourself to the blatant problems. How many negative examples do you need?
no, i'm the one saying i don't mind paying to feed a hungry kid as much as i mind paying for the pentagon to own over 200 golf courses.
do you honestly think here if you need knee surgery and don't have cash to pay or your insurance doesn't want to pay you just get knee surgery? no, you get run through a few YEARS of trying shit that doesn't work and leaves you in agony to try and save money before they even consider surgery. after you're addicted to oxys then taken off them cuz you're an addict and made to try more futile bullshit and are about ready to shoot yourself you get surgery. because your health is nothing compared to saving a few bucks.
god as in whatever forces drive the malevolent little tides of time.
Have you heard that the health care in canada is so bad no one lives past age 50?
neither have i.
List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
canada 82
usa 79
neither have i.
List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
canada 82
usa 79
for having the best doctors on the planet we sure have a lot of countries keeping their people alive longer.
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I heard a statement from Dennis Miller that perfectly sums up the way i feel about these things. Sort of a paraphrase but basically " I want to give the hopeless and helpless more than they expect but the useless and the worthless; i just don't care about." May sound harsh but we have a large population here confusing the system because they're useless pretending to be helpless.
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People in canada are generally very happy with their healthcare system. There will always be those with enough money that will come here and pay for expedited surgery by the best trained specialists they can buy. Life expectancy ( and infant mortality, they go hand in hand) are poor ways to measure health care effectiveness for several reasons, not the least of which is a lack of standardized reporting among countries to the WHO. If repirting were standardized our stats wouldn't get any better mind you, other countries would just fare worse in comparison. We'd be much more in the middle of the pack in most categories then. Still a shame for the $ we spend but not nearly as bad as it looks now.
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the problem is much bigger, if all the bullshit "fake" jobs in the US were ended tomorrow unemployment in the US would be about 30-40%. then there would really be a HUGE increase in the size of the US for profit prison system, as that's were the US puts it's excess and unwanted population, Chomsky calls it the "superfluous" population.
consumerism combined with low wage neo-liberal policy is one big failure for building a sustainable society/economic model but a high profit making scam for large firms and worthless financiers.
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^^^ and the for profit welfare system that props up a failing economy. Fiat currency etc. U cannot disagree with any of this but i maintain that if people wouldn't have been so ready to take the seemingly free aid that was offered ro prevent the smallest experience of discomfort the problem wouldn't be as big as it has become. Frankly it's now a beast that cannot be fed!
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well this took a strange turn
well when the annual savings rate for the lower 2 income quintiles is less than .1% a year what other option is there when there is no savings? that's what happens when people are paid poverty wages, they teeter on the edge and fall in and out depending on the slightest changes in macro policy.
dave 236
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Im certainly not disagreeing. This is why i rarely get into these discussions. Its more than slightly depressing to realize that there are no easy answers if there are any at all to stem the hemorrhage. People have to make it happen and not politicians. I've just lost faith in both.
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^^ agreed
and I'm not the thread police. Decent threads usually evolve completely out of context and that should be encouraged. Keeps things interesting
I only checked in to see if anyone caught that I was being a patronizing jerk yet
and I'm not the thread police. Decent threads usually evolve completely out of context and that should be encouraged. Keeps things interesting
I only checked in to see if anyone caught that I was being a patronizing jerk yet
i saw some very appropriate invisible text in this thread about the existence of invisible men.
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So what is your point?
World wide evidence of a great flood does not validate the christian bible or gives proof that there was a Jesus.
The myth of a great flood is much older than the christian bible.
Writers of the bible adapted it from earlier middle eastern religions.
In example the Sumerian great flood myth.
Eridu -- Ancient History Encyclopedia
The Eridu Genesis (composed c. 2300 BCE) is the earliest description of the Great Flood, pre-dating the Biblical book of Genesis,
[SIZE=-1]The [/SIZE]Eridu Genesis is written on a Sumerian cuneiform tablet of which about two thirds are now lost. The missing parts can be reconstructed from texts like the Sumerian King List and Berossus:
- the kings who ruled before the Great Flood (lost)
- the supreme god Enlil's decision to destroy sinful humankind (lost);
- Ziusudra learns of the approaching calamity;
- building of the Ark (lost);
- the Great Flood;
The Flood
[132'] All the evil winds, all stormy winds gathered into
one and with them, them, the Flood was sweeping
over the cities of the half-bushel baskets, for seven days and seven nights. After the flood had swept over the country,
after the evil wind had tossed the big boat about on the great waters,
the sun came out spreading light over heaven and earth.
Flood Stories from Around the World
Sumerian: The gods had decided to destroy mankind. The god Enlil warned the priest-king Ziusudra ("Long of Life") of the coming flood by speaking to a wall while Ziusudra listened at the side. He was instructed to build a great ship and carry beasts and birds upon it. Violent winds came, and a flood of rain covered the earth for seven days and nights. Then Ziusudra opened a window in the large boat, allowing sunlight to enter, and he prostrated himself before the sun-god Utu. After landing, he sacrificed a sheep and an ox and bowed before Anu and Enlil. For protecting the animals and the seed of mankind, he was granted eternal life and taken to the country of Dilmun, where the sun rises. [Hammerly-Dupuy, p. 56; Heidel, pp. 102-106]
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SheriV
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yeah. I mentioned this earlier in this thread. Even Native American cultures have great flood stories.... I always thought it was kinda cool that it was a recurring story worldwide.
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how did religion turn to politics? separation of church and state people
Last I remember the US was founded on the separation of church and state and the freedom to hold whatever religious beliefs u want. There should be NO connection between the government and ANY religion!
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Gheyest thread ever. On behalf of Jesus I'm negging everyone
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I just want to know what Jesus thinks of Obama Care? Because if he has no opinion then this thread went way off topic. Just saying!!
Health care for the whole country is how is should be. I am in Canada and it works fine here. and service is not bad.. the issue is USA never had it and its implementation may be the desaster... but it needs to change...
welfar is not why |USA is falling to shit, its the people with power and wiping buts with 100's that are the issue....
men believe women squirt and it's not urine. you can make some people believe almost anything.
I do not agree with you
there is 2 types of "squirt" one is during cumming and loss of control and pulsating that cause the pee. then there is the REAL squirt that is whit to clear and it is NOT pee. where it come from? you know how men have a prostate? well that was developed... women still have some of this inside them.... some enough development/function to put out extra liquid.. trust me i have seen both kinds... 90% of porn squirt is piss. and i LOL at men saying its hot or look qt that cum or w/e...
like i said there is REAL squirting.... but i do agree most is piss that you will come across.
We take care of our people here, cant say the same for USA, sorry...
You get quick help when its needed. ig oyu got a cut or bruise you want looked at.. you can so sit in the er for a few hrs... i think its fair...
BTW I was in car accident and rehab was started couple weeks later... not sure what you are talking about with that example.... i then did about 2 yrs of rehab 2-3 times a week..... spine is still screwed but thats not due to medical care..
Yeah!
For some reason LW turns me on in this thread :-d maybe it was the squirt comments hehe :-D Geez I sure am thirsty :-O
but srsly... who here really knows... i believe in evolution as a WAY of creation. there is energies (god) all around us that we dont see with our eyes... there IS evolution, but that doesnt mean every animal is going to keep evolving unless its genetics are pressured too IMO.. so the argument of "well this animal hasnt changed| or " we dont know how this one came to be" or "this one cant evolve" just because you dont know doesnt mean you have to bible thump to have an explanation for your ego driven mind.... atleast i can say i dont know all the facets of life/evolution, but i sure as hell am not going to believe nonsense from a book made BY MEN and limit myself, because it is easier to understand or accept...
