Are you running "Decca"?
We often hear of people running "deca", but I consider this to be a misnomer. What we are actually talking about is Nandrolone. Deca is simply an abbreviation for Decanoate which is the Ester. The name "Deca" comes from a product created by Organon called Decca Durabolin, hence the nickname "Deca". Decanoate or Phenyl Prop are the Esters we will find with nandrolone. More on that later.
Nandrolone is a NOR 19 compound which is modified testosterone with the carbon atom removed at the 19th position. Nandrolone has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 125:37. This means we get a very good anabolic boost with a moderate androgenic property. There is a low aromatizing property to Nandrolone, it converts to estrogen at only about 20%, as much as testosterone. So estrogen control should be quite easy with a standard dose of the Ai. of your choice.
What are the benefits?
A benefit of nandrolone is the versatility, allowing it to be used for both cutting or bulking cycles. Phenylprop would typically be the choice for cutting. A very well known effect from nandrolone is it's ability to relieve joint pain. I can attest to this first hand as I have found great relief from arthritic joint pain by using nandrolone. Be warned, however, this relief is not part of a permanent repair to joint tissue. Although some research does claim that nandrolone stimulates collagen production and increases IGF production. Red blood cell production also increases which decreases muscle catabolism, increases endurance by bringing more oxygen to muscle cells and clears lactic acid quicker. A study with post menopausal women showed nandrolone to be effective treatment against osteoporosis and anemia. Through my own blood tests I can confirm a significant increase to blood iron levels.
What are the negative side effects?
Reportedly side effects can be insomnia, nausea and diarrhea, although I have never experienced any of these from nandrolones. Much more common side effects are water retention, testicular atrophy and impotence, a.k.a "Deca Dick". None of these side effects should be taken lightly, however they are generally very manageable if you understand where they are coming from.
How can you manage the negative side effects?
Nandroloness cause the slow down of endogenous testosterone, hence the reason you always supplement with testosterone. Generally speaking testosterone should be run at twice the dosage of Deca or NPP. This is also a progestenic steroid, causing an increase in progesterone. This contributes to HPTA shut down and testicular atrophy. This can be counteracted with the use of HCG which acts the same way that LH would to stimulate the testes. Increased progesterone levels can cause an increase in prolactin. Prolactin is the substance created in the body after orgasm, creating a feeling of being satisfied . You can see how high prolactin levels would decrease the libido greatly. Cabergoline, Pramipexole or Bromocryptine will tale care of excess prolactin easily, and as far as I know there is no negative side effect to driving prolactin levels too low.
Recommendations
When nandrolone is used with the decanoate ester is has a very long half life of 15 days. Making once weekly injections possible , although my personal preference has been to couple my deca with test E and inject every 4 days. The Phenylprop half life is much shorter at 5 daysmaking it possible to run NPP on a 4 day schedule , again however my personal preference with NPP has been to couple it with Sustanon and run it M,W,F to keep blood levels stable and keep the injection schedule simple. At day 5 when running NPP a severe drop off in plasma levels is seen. Another interesting discovery was that blood plasma levels did seem to be higher when using gluteal injections over deltoids. Although the half life of Deca is quite long at 15 days the ability to detect it in the body is much longer, in fact deca can be detected up to 18 months from usage .
N.P.P. and Nandrolone Deca release almost the same amount of hormone per 100 mg. 69 % and 65 % respectively . Yet a distinct difference between the two is the amount of water retention one may experience. With NPP people generally find the hold much less water than with deca, therefore NPP is often credited with giving cleaner gains. Also because of its short half life any undesirable side effects are often corrected or alleviated much more easily .
How long do I run it ?
Gains from nandrolone are generally slow and steady, although the use of NPP as a kick start will accelerate things a bit. Deca or NPP cycles should be run for a bare minimum of 12 weeks with 16 or even 18 week cycles being optimal. About 2 weeks after your cycle ends you should be prepared to run an aggressive PCT with Nolvadex and Clomid . I also highly recommend the use of HCG for the last 4-6 weeks of cycle. HCG is a great benefit to kick starting your system after a highly suppressive compound like this has been used.
So for a quick summary, Deca for joint therapy can be as low as 100mg per week, but to witness real gains you will need to run something more like 400-600 per week. Because of chronic joint pain I run deca even when cruising year round. And in fact have given my aging dog weekly injections of deca at 50 mg (but that is another story ). Run your NPP on a 2-4 day injection schedule and your deca on a 4 day to 1 week schedule.
Remember to use the 2:1 ratio between test and nandrolone as your starting point. Poor sexual performance would indicate the need to increase test levels. And whether you are experiencing sides or not its always smart to have an anti prolactin on hand, and be strict with your AI dose, as faltering in this area seems to be the quickest way to lead in to progesterone trouble too.
With this information and the shared knowledge of other users you should certainly be able to prepare for a run with one of the best compounds available today, whether it be in the N.P.P. version or as Deca.
We often hear of people running "deca", but I consider this to be a misnomer. What we are actually talking about is Nandrolone. Deca is simply an abbreviation for Decanoate which is the Ester. The name "Deca" comes from a product created by Organon called Decca Durabolin, hence the nickname "Deca". Decanoate or Phenyl Prop are the Esters we will find with nandrolone. More on that later.
Nandrolone is a NOR 19 compound which is modified testosterone with the carbon atom removed at the 19th position. Nandrolone has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 125:37. This means we get a very good anabolic boost with a moderate androgenic property. There is a low aromatizing property to Nandrolone, it converts to estrogen at only about 20%, as much as testosterone. So estrogen control should be quite easy with a standard dose of the Ai. of your choice.
What are the benefits?
A benefit of nandrolone is the versatility, allowing it to be used for both cutting or bulking cycles. Phenylprop would typically be the choice for cutting. A very well known effect from nandrolone is it's ability to relieve joint pain. I can attest to this first hand as I have found great relief from arthritic joint pain by using nandrolone. Be warned, however, this relief is not part of a permanent repair to joint tissue. Although some research does claim that nandrolone stimulates collagen production and increases IGF production. Red blood cell production also increases which decreases muscle catabolism, increases endurance by bringing more oxygen to muscle cells and clears lactic acid quicker. A study with post menopausal women showed nandrolone to be effective treatment against osteoporosis and anemia. Through my own blood tests I can confirm a significant increase to blood iron levels.
What are the negative side effects?
Reportedly side effects can be insomnia, nausea and diarrhea, although I have never experienced any of these from nandrolones. Much more common side effects are water retention, testicular atrophy and impotence, a.k.a "Deca Dick". None of these side effects should be taken lightly, however they are generally very manageable if you understand where they are coming from.
How can you manage the negative side effects?
Nandroloness cause the slow down of endogenous testosterone, hence the reason you always supplement with testosterone. Generally speaking testosterone should be run at twice the dosage of Deca or NPP. This is also a progestenic steroid, causing an increase in progesterone. This contributes to HPTA shut down and testicular atrophy. This can be counteracted with the use of HCG which acts the same way that LH would to stimulate the testes. Increased progesterone levels can cause an increase in prolactin. Prolactin is the substance created in the body after orgasm, creating a feeling of being satisfied . You can see how high prolactin levels would decrease the libido greatly. Cabergoline, Pramipexole or Bromocryptine will tale care of excess prolactin easily, and as far as I know there is no negative side effect to driving prolactin levels too low.
Recommendations
When nandrolone is used with the decanoate ester is has a very long half life of 15 days. Making once weekly injections possible , although my personal preference has been to couple my deca with test E and inject every 4 days. The Phenylprop half life is much shorter at 5 daysmaking it possible to run NPP on a 4 day schedule , again however my personal preference with NPP has been to couple it with Sustanon and run it M,W,F to keep blood levels stable and keep the injection schedule simple. At day 5 when running NPP a severe drop off in plasma levels is seen. Another interesting discovery was that blood plasma levels did seem to be higher when using gluteal injections over deltoids. Although the half life of Deca is quite long at 15 days the ability to detect it in the body is much longer, in fact deca can be detected up to 18 months from usage .
N.P.P. and Nandrolone Deca release almost the same amount of hormone per 100 mg. 69 % and 65 % respectively . Yet a distinct difference between the two is the amount of water retention one may experience. With NPP people generally find the hold much less water than with deca, therefore NPP is often credited with giving cleaner gains. Also because of its short half life any undesirable side effects are often corrected or alleviated much more easily .
How long do I run it ?
Gains from nandrolone are generally slow and steady, although the use of NPP as a kick start will accelerate things a bit. Deca or NPP cycles should be run for a bare minimum of 12 weeks with 16 or even 18 week cycles being optimal. About 2 weeks after your cycle ends you should be prepared to run an aggressive PCT with Nolvadex and Clomid . I also highly recommend the use of HCG for the last 4-6 weeks of cycle. HCG is a great benefit to kick starting your system after a highly suppressive compound like this has been used.
So for a quick summary, Deca for joint therapy can be as low as 100mg per week, but to witness real gains you will need to run something more like 400-600 per week. Because of chronic joint pain I run deca even when cruising year round. And in fact have given my aging dog weekly injections of deca at 50 mg (but that is another story ). Run your NPP on a 2-4 day injection schedule and your deca on a 4 day to 1 week schedule.
Remember to use the 2:1 ratio between test and nandrolone as your starting point. Poor sexual performance would indicate the need to increase test levels. And whether you are experiencing sides or not its always smart to have an anti prolactin on hand, and be strict with your AI dose, as faltering in this area seems to be the quickest way to lead in to progesterone trouble too.
With this information and the shared knowledge of other users you should certainly be able to prepare for a run with one of the best compounds available today, whether it be in the N.P.P. version or as Deca.
I want to run about 600mg of nandrolone decanate but I'm counting my test bottles and wondering if I'm brave enough to run 1200mg of test e.
