My 1G test only cycle

[bodybuilder91]

Good Moring to you all!

Getting ready for my next cycle and am kinda curious as to how this is going to go. opinions would be greatly appreciated especially from you guys who have been in the game a while.

Stats: 5'10 205lbs. about 13 percent body fat. Lift 6 days a week. maybe throw in a light cardio session of 30 minutes once or twice a week as well.
Goal: to gain some serious mass while keeping the body fat in check as well. a little fat is fine, I am bulking after all.

Diet:

meal 1: (53 protein, 67g carbs, 16g fat); 2 whole eggs, 230 egg whites, 100g oatmeal

meal 2: (52g protein, 73g carbs); 5oz chicken, 12.5oz sweet potato

meal 3: (55g protein, 83g carbs, 11g fat); 5oz steak, 12.5oz brown rice
meal 4: (51g protein, 67g carbs, 6g fat); 4oz chicken, 100g oatmeal

post workout: (40 protein, 45 carbs); (This includes protein powder & dextrose)

meal 5: (57g protein, 99g carbs, 5g fat); 5oz chicken, 15oz brown rice

meal 6: (52g protein,); 2 pieces of Cod


Totals:
360g protein
434g carbs
38g fat
3518 cals

Alright and now for the good stuff:
1G test E a week (split Monday & Thursday, 500 each jab)
1mg of arimidex Monday night and another Friday morning to keep estro in check
No need to worry about pct; I will be cruising at 200mgs a week after this cycle till the next. Also this cycle will be ran 16 weeks.


I know that supplementing other compounds would be beneficial instead of the high test only but I really would like to give this a go as my friend loved it! this is my 3rd cycle of A.S. Any opinions negative or positive lets hear them! Also if anyone has ran this before would love to hear your results. Thanks Bro's!

 

[Dannie]

More carbs post workout. Add another scoop of dextrose/maltodextrin with your post workout or have a glass of fruit juice with meal 5.
Also some vegetables would not hurt.

As for cycle, I would pyramid it, 600mg for 4 weeks, then 800mg for next 4 weeks and reminder of the cycle at full dose of 1g.
It's a lengthy cycle gains usually slow down at around week 8, the way to go around it is to either increase the dose or add another compound. Even 20mg of dbol in last 4 weeks will make a massive difference. As long as its legit Pharma Grade stuff that is.



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[Carverelli]

I'd consider splitting adex into .5 mg eod rather than 2x/week

 

[bodybuilder91]

Thanks for the input,

Dannie: So your thinking maybe 60 to 80g of carbs w/ post workout shake (using dextrose)? is the protein from the powder sufficient at 40g?
I could definitely get some d-bol for the last 4 weeks. I would rather not pyramid if possible although I understand what your saying completely.


Carverelli: I agree with what your saying but there's one problem.. my adex is 1g each capsule.. I suppose I could dump half of the powder out and close the pill back up but then id be wasting some serious ai (sense I don't have empty capsules on hand).

 

[cujo]

I love high test cycles. I'm running 2g of pharma test c a week, 70mg blue hearts along with 6ius of sero and I have to say that not only is it a killer cycle, but I feel amazing and not the least bit drained. I like the diet. Smash as much protein and carbs as you can and keeping the fat low except for a little all natty pb, olive oil and fatty fish/ omega 3 eggs. If you have some good gear and train hard with that diet, you should love the results


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[jozifp103]

As long as you're getting enough carbs in throughout the day, timing is not that important. Espevially if your pre workout meal has a decent amount of carbs, that will be enough to get you through your workout, then a moderate amount after is more than enough, even when bulking.

I also don't think pyramiding is necessary because the gains only stop when you need more calories. You could keep gaining on 500mg of test just fine as long as you keep upping your calories as you gain.

 

[bodybuilder91]

jozifp103: Are my carbs high enough you think? ill adjust the calories accordingly. I want to be constantly gaining mass off this cycle. So as my weight increases and muscle mass/ i will continue upping the cals to keep that growth coming (as long as im not noticing significant fat increase haha)

cujo: Yah I agree. I cant wait to see the gains off this test only cycle! my body has always responded really well to test so I'm pumped to see how it does on 1G! Glad your liking the diet and ill keep the healthy fats in mind. Hopefully 3500 calories is enough to get some serious growth. I suppose if not ill supplement more fats and carbs into the diet when I get to that point sense my protein already seems pretty high.

 

[jozifp103]

jozifp103: Are my carbs high enough you think? ill adjust the calories accordingly. I want to be constantly gaining mass off this cycle. So as my weight increases and muscle mass/ i will continue upping the cals to keep that growth coming (as long as im not noticing significant fat increase haha)

cujo: Yah I agree. I cant wait to see the gains off this test only cycle! my body has always responded really well to test so I'm pumped to see how it does on 1G! Glad your liking the diet and ill keep the healthy fats in mind. Hopefully 3500 calories is enough to get some serious growth. I suppose if not ill supplement more fats and carbs into the diet when I get to that point sense my protein already seems pretty high.

Overall your macros look solid for a nice bulk. Your pre/post workout carbs are plenty to fuel your workouts. I like to eat my highest carb meals just before/after my workouts, but there's really no hard evidence saying that's any more effective. As long as you get enough overall macros throughout the day, you'll grow just fine. I'd even say you could add some more fats in there. Maybe a few handfuls of nuts in between meals, or add some olive oil to your veggies.

 

[Glycomann]

spelling grammer

What a lot of people don't really think about is that AAS are growth potentiators not the growth itself. You can take a gram of test and just bloat up 5-10 lbs if you dont train and eat right. Key is eating the right way and training balls to the wall. Best thing you can do is visit the meat shop once a week and buy 12 lbs of meat. Get a big sack of long grain rice and 10 bags of veggies. Fucking eat 4 solid meals a day including 1.5 to 2 lbs of meat total along with 200-400 g of carbs and 100-150 g of good fats from meat and olive oil and a bag of veggies every day. Add a protein shake before bed. As important is get a mental case training partner and torture him and he will return the favor. Maker sure to sleep at least 8 hours a night on average and nap when you can. that's when you grow. You will grow if these bases are covered. Stay out of the clubs or at least no drinking or rec drugs. if you start to feel lethargic back off on the test 25%. You will grow best when you feel great not when you feel toxic from too much juice.

my 2 cents

G

Strangely enough, this is really not rocket science.

 

[VictorZ06]

^^All very good points. Solid advice brother.



/V

 

[Glycomann]

Thanks

 

[dieseljimmy]

What a lot of people don't really think about is that AAS are growth potentiators not the growth itself. You can take a gram of test and just bloat up 5-10 lbs if you dont train and eat right. Key is eating the right way and training balls to the wall. Best thing you can do is visit the meat shop once a week and buy 12 lbs of meat. Get a big sack of long grain rice and 10 bags of veggies. Fucking eat 4 solid meals a day including 1.5 to 2 lbs of meat total along with 200-400 g of carbs and 100-150 g of good fats from meat and olive oil and a bag of veggies every day. Add a protein shake before bed. As important is get a mental case training partner and torture him and he will return the favor. Maker sure to sleep at least 8 hours a night on average and nap when you can. that's when you grow. You will grow if these bases are covered. Stay out of the clubs or at least no drinking or rec drugs. if you start to feel lethargic back off on the test 25%. You will grow best when you feel great not when you feel toxic from too much juice.

my 2 cents

G

Strangely enough, this is really not rocket science.

All this and water. Most of "us" need more water. I always feel and look the best when I'm almost annoyed with how much water I'm drinking.

 

[bodybuilder91]

I couldn't agree more. I just hope this is enough cals to really increases the muscle mass. definitely adding a couple handfuls of almonds in between meals though when I get the chance. Waters always a pain but I am usually pretty good with it.

 

[raysd21]

I honestly don't think 5oz of anything has even close to 50 grams of protein. Maybe 40g...maybe. Over the course of the day you are shorting yourself at least 60-100g of protein. You need to get yourself a food scale and relook at how many grams of protein is in an oz of meat. And are you measuring this cooked or uncooked. Cause most are done cooked. So if you measure 5oz of uncooked meat, then cook it, you are at more like 4oz.

Whatever. 360g of protein is a little much anyway. I would lower the protein and up the carbs. Bulking ain't about lookin pretty. Maybe some carbs intra workout too to raise your insulin a little. Especially if you are killing it for 2-3 hours. Increasing your insulin with carbs during your workout will protect against muscle breakdown. Insulin is just as anabolic as Testosterone afterall. 2-1 carbs - protein post workout is a good ratio for bulking. 3-1 if you are a hardgainer or have balls of steel, a fast metabolism, and self control the rest of the day.

 

[ldog]

Why 1G? How many cycles have you ran before? Just curious on your reasoning.

 

[jozifp103]

I honestly don't think 5oz of anything has even close to 50 grams of protein. Maybe 40g...maybe. Over the course of the day you are shorting yourself at least 60-100g of protein. You need to get yourself a food scale and relook at how many grams of protein is in an oz of meat. And are you measuring this cooked or uncooked. Cause most are done cooked. So if you measure 5oz of uncooked meat, then cook it, you are at more like 4oz.

Whatever. 360g of protein is a little much anyway. I would lower the protein and up the carbs. Bulking ain't about lookin pretty. Maybe some carbs intra workout too to raise your insulin a little. Especially if you are killing it for 2-3 hours. Increasing your insulin with carbs during your workout will protect against muscle breakdown. Insulin is just as anabolic as Testosterone afterall. 2-1 carbs - protein post workout is a good ratio for bulking. 3-1 if you are a hardgainer or have balls of steel, a fast metabolism, and self control the rest of the day.

2-3 hours? Did he mention he was lifting that long? I may have missed it. If that's the case i'd def throw come carbs in intra-workout. Maybe get some waxy maize or even dextrose to sip on while you lift. Even so, 2-3 hours is overkill even on cycle in my opinion. I keep it 45min to 1.5 hours TOPS, and that's when it's busy and i have to wait to use stuff.

 

[raysd21]

2-3 hours? Did he mention he was lifting that long? I may have missed it. If that's the case i'd def throw come carbs in intra-workout. Maybe get some waxy maize or even dextrose to sip on while you lift. Even so, 2-3 hours is overkill even on cycle in my opinion. I keep it 45min to 1.5 hours TOPS, and that's when it's busy and i have to wait to use stuff.

He didn't even mention he was even lifting. I just assumed he was going hardcore with 1 gram of test. I hope he's not injecting a gram of T and sitting in his barcalounger sipping slurpees all day from 7-11.

I've never gone over 600mg myself...or over an hour and a half working out on that note. Sure maybe with some cardio... If he's doing a gram of test and over 1 hour working out he is definitely going to need more carbs. And straighten out his protein math per oz.

Yeah I don't subscribe to the Rich Piana 4 hour workout plan either. Or his synthol problem. It's his body though. Tatoos and synthol. He likes that shit.

 

[bodybuilder91]

He didn't even mention he was even lifting. I just assumed he was going hardcore with 1 gram of test. I hope he's not injecting a gram of T and sitting in his barcalounger sipping slurpees all day from 7-11.

I've never gone over 600mg myself...or over an hour and a half working out on that note. Sure maybe with some cardio... If he's doing a gram of test and over 1 hour working out he is definitely going to need more carbs. And straighten out his protein math per oz.

Yeah I don't subscribe to the Rich Piana 4 hour workout plan either. Or his synthol problem. It's his body though. Tatoos and synthol. He likes that shit.

raysd21: Come on this isn't my first cycle nor first day at the grind. Please read my initial post carefully before making such accusations "Lift 6 days a week". It says that in the description. However it is not mentioned how long I am lifting for. roughly about an hour to hour & half tops (depending on body part that day; yes I do isolation training).
As for the actual amount of protein intake, I am measuring via cooked weight. And 5 oz cooked chicken (broiled) is not 52g or etc, its actually 45. The additional protein consumption that your calculation is actually interpreting is the protein found in the secondary food (brown rice, oats, etc). this would equate to the total as listed above.


Idog: ran about 3 cycle in the past. this will be my fourth. familiar with deca, test, d-bol, and anavar at this point in the game.


jozifp103: I don't think I have ever been in the gym over 2.5 hours lol. 2 maybe on a leg day when its packed and I am unfocused. but that about the extent.

 

[raysd21]

I wasn't talking shit to you. That Joz character thinks he's post moderator or something.

I still don't think 5oz of meat has even 40 grams of protein. I've seen 5oz at 43 grams. I've also seen 6 oz at 39 grams. Lots of different numbers. Whatever. You need to figure out how, how much and when to introduce more carbs without adding too much BF%. Maybe some extra sweet potato also with the IW carbs. I don't know. That is my problem. I put on fat easily. But I need to up my calories. Maybe I need more drugs? A man can only do so much incline walking...

And have you gone over 500mgs Test before. Cause my hair gets hit hard at 500mg. I don't have MPB either. You might need some finasteride or at least have it handy. Or some androgen blocking shampoo. Nigga don't need mid cycle patches of hair fallin out. Gotta keep that stress and cortisol down. Good luck.

Sippin slurpees was funny though bro you have to admit. lol

 

[ldog]

Rays,

I'm 43 and bald...don't be hating on us brothas who gots no hair. We is people too!

 

[bodybuilder91]

raysd21: Its all good bro. But I know, I cant find a source that's consistent with the cooked weight & macros for shit! so those numbers are just the median from the top 3 online sites I found. I guess that's all we can do though right? Hopefully its pretty close..

Hate getting fat lol. but I always over shoot my bulk and end up doing so.. Hopefully this time with my structured diet I wont. But It seems like I am either not gaining at all, or gaining fat. My cut is always 100 percent on. but that's about it. Try upping the cals a bit. if that doesn't work after 3-4 weeks, well you know

As far as 1G goes no, this is a first. my last cycle was 750 test and 300 deca. it. felt. great. I got a buddy who ran the 1G only (actually I believe it was 1.5g only ) and he loved it. I watched him blow up! along with the terrible acne he got lol. that was a year ago. now he runs much bigger cycles. (he's a monster). but he recommended this to me to try.

My genetics so far have proved to be pretty good with the hair loss.. but I'll prob grab something just in case. And ya the slurpee thing had me at awe hahahaha

 

[ldog]

Bro,

Always remember less gear is not a bad thing.... The more you can grow with less, the better longevity you will have as a long term gear user.

 

[SoCalSwole]

For someone who has been on for a while 1 gr of test is not crazy high or unheard of. I do get some serious acne above 750 but proper AI dosage and eating right helps a lot. I get fat pretty easy as well. So I try to keep the carbs relatively low and clean when I am not cutting. Figuring out that for me its the fat intake that gets me. I can eat 500 gr of clean carbs a day for weeks and not really gain any fat, I just stay strong as shit and slowly gain muscle. But I eat sloppy for a few days higher in fat and like clock work I gain water and fat.

Also much easier to eat more meals when you keep the fat intake down. Low fat and I am hungry every 2 hours. I eat fat and I struggle to get 4 meals in a day. People are pretty quick to say you need "this" much carb and "this" much Protein; honestly all the posted diets are just starting points because we are all so different. Best course of action is to tweak it for your self and find how many is too much or too little. The problem is most won't be strict enough (myself included) to be able to identify which macro needs tweaking. Then you figure it out and you gain 10 pounds and then you have to re figure it out. So many variables to consider. Did you walk more than usual today? Did you get enough sleep? Did you train for 45 min or an hour and a half? Did you drink enough water? Waht time of day are you training? Unless this is your job and how you make your money it's pretty ridiculous to get this dialed in. Those that know me, know these are strong words considering how committed I am to this lifestyle.

I pretty much eat the same all year except when I am cutting for a show, I limit the carbs and take no cheat meals, and the fat falls off. the Tren, Mast, test P, var, and clen help alot too

 

[bigchaser]

What can be done with acne i am not anywhere near a gram but have bad shoulder and back acne

 

[bodybuilder91]

For someone who has been on for a while 1 gr of test is not crazy high or unheard of. I do get some serious acne above 750 but proper AI dosage and eating right helps a lot. I get fat pretty easy as well. So I try to keep the carbs relatively low and clean when I am not cutting. Figuring out that for me its the fat intake that gets me. I can eat 500 gr of clean carbs a day for weeks and not really gain any fat, I just stay strong as shit and slowly gain muscle. But I eat sloppy for a few days higher in fat and like clock work I gain water and fat.

Also much easier to eat more meals when you keep the fat intake down. Low fat and I am hungry every 2 hours. I eat fat and I struggle to get 4 meals in a day. People are pretty quick to say you need "this" much carb and "this" much Protein; honestly all the posted diets are just starting points because we are all so different. Best course of action is to tweak it for your self and find how many is too much or too little. The problem is most won't be strict enough (myself included) to be able to identify which macro needs tweaking. Then you figure it out and you gain 10 pounds and then you have to re figure it out. So many variables to consider. Did you walk more than usual today? Did you get enough sleep? Did you train for 45 min or an hour and a half? Did you drink enough water? Waht time of day are you training? Unless this is your job and how you make your money it's pretty ridiculous to get this dialed in. Those that know me, know these are strong words considering how committed I am to this lifestyle.

I pretty much eat the same all year except when I am cutting for a show, I limit the carbs and take no cheat meals, and the fat falls off. the Tren, Mast, test P, var, and clen help alot too

This^ is 100 percent accurate IMO. & for me, I work shift work, so my schedule is never the same. I pretty much just try to weigh myself once a week on the same terms and keep an idea of my lifts every week. This diet is what I aim to do every single day. However there is no way that it will be exact. Hell I might grab a couple handfuls of almonds here and there and if I work a 12 hour shift (or more), you know I will be eating more meals than this. But this is what I plan on doing exactly every single day applicable.
BTW: your body type sounds the same as mine bro. So Ik exactly what your going through.

To be honest Idog, I don't feel like 1g of anabolics is a lot at all. (Especially test). I was thinking of trying out tren as I want to real bad!, but I figure ill give it a bit more time. Tren is nothing short of crazy from what I heard. So ill probably finish out this cycle (yes I started already) and then cruise for a bit. then maybe try out 1g Test, 600 deca, and 50mgs dbol . Ya that's a lot. Now lets here some opinions from some guys on that! lol

 

[SoCalSwole]

That cycle your suggesting is not crazy and a good one. Even better to run NPP at 400 a week along side the deca for the first 4 weeks. You might get a weird week on the 5th week when the deca kicks in but you get instant gains from the NPP without having to wait for the deca to hit. Just get a little caber or prami in case you run into issues with the deca and NPP. You eat right and train hard on that cycle you could gain 15-20 pounds easily in 12 weeks.

 

[bodybuilder91]

What can be done with acne i am not anywhere near a gram but have bad shoulder and back acne

Had the same problem bro. back was clean as hell before I started my 2nd cycle around 2 years ago. (First cycle broke out a little, but it was a very low test only cycle, almost not worth it as I over ate and got fat like a newbie lol) decent gains though. ne ways your best bet is to go to the Dermo. Yah it sucks seeing a doctor but that's what I had to do. They prescribed me (after many years) Accutane. It tore me apart! but my acne cleared up after 6 to 8 months and now I don't get acne from cycle or at least not even close to what I was getting before. But that stuff is tough on your body.. really tough.. do a lot of research before jumping on that. The cons may outweigh the pros.

 

[bodybuilder91]

SocalSwole: That's the plan. Got caber on hand as well right now from my last cycle with deca, so all set there. My diet will remain similar, except ill up the carbs to compensate for the increased level of muscle mass I hope to have obtained by then. Id be using the dbol as the kickstart so no need imo to jumpstart with the npp. plus its just my personal reference to keep running the same esters instead of relying on the fast acting while waiting for the slow acting (same compound) to kick in. Unless im getting ready for a competition but for off season I like to keep it stupid simple

 

[SoCalSwole]

I found that controlling estrogen is the only way to get rid of acne. Test prop gives me acne bad because the levels spike and fall so fast (my theory) test E and cyp don't bother me hardly at all. I wash the area daily soap and water then with rubbing alcohol, then acne cream. Also helps to soak in a chlorinated pool or hot tub. If you don't have either draw a bath and pour in a cup of bleach and soak. Perfectly safe it is actually a prescribed treatment for some skin conditions.

 

[BigJH]

What a lot of people don't really think about is that AAS are growth potentiators not the growth itself. You can take a gram of test and just bloat up 5-10 lbs if you dont train and eat right. Key is eating the right way and training balls to the wall. Best thing you can do is visit the meat shop once a week and buy 12 lbs of meat. Get a big sack of long grain rice and 10 bags of veggies. Fucking eat 4 solid meals a day including 1.5 to 2 lbs of meat total along with 200-400 g of carbs and 100-150 g of good fats from meat and olive oil and a bag of veggies every day. Add a protein shake before bed. As important is get a mental case training partner and torture him and he will return the favor. Maker sure to sleep at least 8 hours a night on average and nap when you can. that's when you grow. You will grow if these bases are covered. Stay out of the clubs or at least no drinking or rec drugs. if you start to feel lethargic back off on the test 25%. You will grow best when you feel great not when you feel toxic from too much juice.

my 2 cents

G

Strangely enough, this is really not rocket science.

I love this. . Thank brother