Need a little help

[BoatsN'Hoes]

I'm planning on taking a cycle within the next two months. I need help finding what gear will be metabolized by fin. I want the strongest gear I can get that can still be metabolized by the fin. I found that imo tren and anadrol are probably two of the strongest hormones out there but tren can't be metabolized by fin and I read that anadrol isn't metabolized. So what do you guys think is the best gear that works with fin? I have done research but I could use a little more help. Btw I only wanna do one cycle, I have a medical problem that I believe could be solved with one cycle (docs can't do anything for me). I don't wanna get into it, just wanna make it clear so I don't get the shit flamed outta me.

 

[SoCalSwole]

Metabolized by fin?

 

[BoatsN'Hoes]

Metabolized by fin?

Yeah, apparently fin doesn't work with tren or anadrol. And I don't wanna gamble with my hair.

 

[VictorZ06]

I do not take finesteride when I'm on cycle, only when off. Been doing this for a very long time, and I have a full head of hair and use tren and drol in almost every cycle that I run.




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[BoatsN'Hoes]

I do not take finesteride when I'm on cycle, only when off. Been doing this for a very long time, and I have a full head of hair and use tren and drol in almost every cycle that I run.
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Yeah, but you're not prone to it, with my family background... it's really not a good thing to do. I'm thinking I might go with a dbol,test mix, or maybe just oral d-bol...

 

[BoatsN'Hoes]

Since no one is really chimming in here I think dbol is my best bet. I really don't wanna be pinning ed, so for this cycle I'm gonna go with oral dbol, so tell me how this looks.

So 3 weeks prior to my cycle 1mg fin ed

Cycle start:
Week 1-4: 50mg ed
Week 1-8 1mg fin ed
Cycle ends:

Pct:
Week 5: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 6-7: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 8: 20mg Nolva ED

 

[VictorZ06]

Yeah, but you're not prone to it, with my family background... it's really not a good thing to do. I'm thinking I might go with a dbol,test mix, or maybe just oral d-bol...

I started taking it because I was prone to it. I managed to stop it in it's tracks with fin.


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[VictorZ06]

Since no one is really chimming in here I think dbol is my best bet. I really don't wanna be pinning ed, so for this cycle I'm gonna go with oral dbol, so tell me how this looks.

So 3 weeks prior to my cycle 1mg fin ed

Cycle start:
Week 1-4: 50mg ed
Week 1-8 1mg fin ed
Cycle ends:

Pct:
Week 5: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 6-7: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 8: 20mg Nolva ED

SO SO SO WRONG. Please read our rules and our stickies before seeking advice as to how to run a cycle. You have to post ALL your stats and your goals. Nolva for PCT? Dbol only? You have so many things wrong here....read our stickes/rules and post stats and goals ASAP or thread dies. Thanks.




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[BoatsN'Hoes]

SO SO SO WRONG. Please read our rules and our stickies before seeking advice as to how to run a cycle. You have to post ALL your stats and your goals. Nolva for PCT? Dbol only? You have so many things wrong here....read our stickes/rules and post stats and goals ASAP or thread dies. Thanks.




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Okay well I guess I can do that. 25 y.o. 5'10" 180lbs about 9% bf and lifting for 13 years. This is kind of a trial run to see if gear will even help my medical problem. Like I said I expect if it does help, only a cycle or 2 would be needed then I'd go back to being natural forever. Yes, yes, yes I know some people aren't gonna like the only dbol route, but I don't wanna be pinning 2x every day for weeks and taking test.


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[lexar27]

Not sure what your medical condition is but you sure dbol is a solution, i kinda doubt that it is. IMO
Dbol only means youll blow up in size for 4 weeks and then it will go away for the most part, its used as a kick start for test cycles. You wont keep that size after you are off. Dont like idea of pinning but you like idea of still taking a pill to make you get bigger? I think you meant more pin 2x week with test not twice a day. hmm idk man those stickies for how to run first cycle are real good advice to follow if this is what you wanna do.

 

[BoatsN'Hoes]

Not sure what your medical condition is but you sure dbol is a solution, i kinda doubt that it is. IMO
Dbol only means youll blow up in size for 4 weeks and then it will go away for the most part, its used as a kick start for test cycles. You wont keep that size after you are off. Dont like idea of pinning but you like idea of still taking a pill to make you get bigger? I think you meant more pin 2x week with test not twice a day. hmm idk man those stickies for how to run first cycle are real good advice to follow if this is what you wanna do.

I was talking about injectable dbol and test... But if you guys have a better idea I'd be happy to hear it so I can research it more. I need something strong because if I can't see the results then I'm not gonna continue. I tried IGF and it did help a little bit but I need something stronger.


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[VictorZ06]

See....I'm not the only one who told you to read the stickies bro. IGF is a hormone very much like insulin. No need to take injectable dbol....and it's also harder to find. You told me you were worried about your live and hair. A couple weeks on oral dbol will have no effect on your liver....still use milk thistle and Liv52 for ANY cycle. Bread and butter cycles to pack on good mass are:

test+deca+anadrol BUT you want to insist on running a dbol only cycle and that is a waste of time. I gave you plenty of advice via PM and you got more advice here. Doesn't sound like you want to listen to any of it.



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[ldog]

Boats,

Listen to these guys. Some people pay for this advice.

See....I'm not the only one who told you to read the stickies bro. IGF is a hormone very much like insulin. No need to take injectable dbol....and it's also harder to find. You told me you were worried about your live and hair. A couple weeks on oral dbol will have no effect on your liver....still use milk thistle and Liv52 for ANY cycle. Bread and butter cycles to pack on good mass are:

test+deca+anadrol BUT you want to insist on running a dbol only cycle and that is a waste of time. I gave you plenty of advice via PM and you got more advice here. Doesn't sound like you want to listen to any of it.



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[Glycomann]

If you let us in on your med condition some of us might be better able to help.

 

[UberJedi]

I'm getting some popcorn. This dude is gonna get torn a new one at some point and I don't wanna miss it.

 

[BoatsN'Hoes]

Still doing research into this. I can't really get away without a test base, I see that now. So if I'm gonna take dbol it would be a 4 week cycle with test e or c for 10 weeks. Or test and deca. I read that test and deca is preferred, that a lot of the weight gained on dbol is bloated weight.


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[VictorZ06]

A lot of the weight comes from deca as well, both retain a lot of water. Like I told you, you are NOT going to put on 20lbs of LBM on one 10 week cycle like the one you have in mind. You can get more help if you fully explain your situation.



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[BoatsN'Hoes]

Making a lot of headway. I'll post my final cycle when I'm done figuring it out. Then I'll make a thread following that cycle.


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[BoatsN'Hoes]

Prior 1mg of fin 3 weeks prior to cycle

Week 1-6 50mg dbol
Week 1-12 250mg 2x a week of test e/c
Week 13-15 clomid 200 day 1 then 100/100/50
Week 1-12 liv52 DS and 500mg milk thistle ed
- nolvadex on hand



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[SoCalSwole]

Dude, Whats your medical condition? No one in their right mind would help you with a cycle after you admit to a med condition and now won't divulge what it is. It would just be irresponsible. Be grateful for the kindness Vic has shown you. Others including myself would light you up.

The more we Know the more we can help. 250 a week on test in my opinion is not enough for

1. Anabolic effect and muscle growth.
2. Not worth shutting down your natural production.

 

[VictorZ06]

I went back with him back and forth and he explained it all to me, thus my reasoning for tossing some advice....I do not know all his stats and told him to post here so he would get more help. I don't mind helping, but when someone has an injury....I don't want to start tossing blind advice. What I told him was IF he was a candidate for AAS, what a fist time cycle should look like. I also explained some of the compounds. But please...for God's sake, the staff here worked their asses off to make the stickes we have above. OP PLEASE READ THEM!!




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[SoCalSwole]

I went back with him back and forth and he explained it all to me, thus my reasoning for tossing some advice....I do not know all his stats and told him to post here so he would get more help. I don't mind helping, but when someone has an injury....I don't want to start tossing blind advice. What I told him was IF he was a candidate for AAS, what a fist time cycle should look like. I also explained some of the compounds. But please...for God's sake, the staff here worked their asses off to make the stickes we have above. OP PLEASE READ THEM



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You're one of the good ones Vic

 

[VictorZ06]

You're one of the good ones Vic

I help if I can...can't spend as much time in the gym as I would like....so I live vicariously through you guys on the board! lol I won't help if the person doesn't read the stickies and wants everything fed to him with a silver spoon though. Thanks for the kind words brother.




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[PELLETHEAD]

Sorry, I got excited seeing fin. I was dreaming of the A on the end FinA! What can I say> I was brought up in a home brew fina world

 

[SoCalSwole]

Sorry, I got excited seeing fin. I was dreaming of the A on the end FinA! What can I say> I was brought up in a home brew fina world

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