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200g protein is plenty, maybe even more than enough but it's a good goal. Just start forcing down those calories by any means necessary and you will grow
 
gettinbig40 said:
i am 5 foot 6 135 pounds and will be 21 years of age next month. i am looking into a small 4 week cycle(supplier is limited) of 40 to 50 mg of d bol a day. i am new at this and will not be doing aas for a long amount of time actually prolly will never use them again but this one cycle but want to make sure i do safely and correctly. i have a good friend puttin me on this stuff but would like input from elsewhere(idc if your yelling at me or bitching) also was wondering about pct i will talk to my guy about this but was wondering about nolvadex if that would help? i am new at this just have a friend trying to teach me but like i said i want further input before i chance on messing my one and only body up. if your wondering why i want to use d bol anyway its because i hit a plateau i wana get over. also i workout 5 days a week rest 2. eat at the least 3 meals a day 8 oz of protein 2 carbs per meal. i do take protein shakes. anything else you need to kno plz ask like i said i'm new to the aas world
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How long have you been training? 5 6' is short, but even at that height 135 lbs is rather light....

You really need to stress all facets of nutrition and exercise FIRST then maybe consider androgens..

If your going to cycle.....your going to cycle regardless of what everyon else says...

SO.....if you truly were adamant about keeping endogenous testosterone production "somewhat" intact I would say dose the Dianabol all at once in the morning....you will spike very high blood levels initially and will still pulse some natural LH and FSH production at night so suppression will not bea major concern,,,

I just ran several tests with beta testers on our new androgen products and the way we set up our delivery system, all users made their gains (10-15-28lbs) and still had fully functioning LH and FSH values in normal range.

-Matt
 
k thanks i am reseaching diet for ecto's. thanks alot bro. and you kno people that have woman titties on one cycle of d bol? i kno a 19 yr old on his 2nd cycle of injectables, he looks amazing with no side effects. my supplier actually put him on and is trying to do the same to me but like i said i want to learn more first. and wat about nolvadex i thought that was supposed to help shit like that
 
thanks alot matt that was very very helpful. i can get nolvadex if that helps? also do do you think if i take 30-40 mg of d bol a day for 4 weeks as long as i pop either all 3 or 4 in the morning, when i stop, will still have fully functioning LH and FSH values in normal range? also ive been training on and off for a year now been hittin it heavy for 3 to 4 months now 5 days a week take weekends off for recovery
 
It is a mistake to do so young man.. i feel like you may be thinking i'll eat great for a few months and then do this stuff but thats not what anyone on here was recommending.. TRUST ME i wish i had people telling me what you are being told now...
Give your self a couple years man and give your body a chance to mature naturally
 
Growth said:
It is a mistake to do so young man.. i feel like you may be thinking i'll eat great for a few months and then do this stuff but thats not what anyone on here was recommending.. TRUST ME i wish i had people telling me what you are being told now...
Give your self a couple years man and give your body a chance to mature naturally
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^ this
 
gettinbig40 said:
thanks alot matt that was very very helpful. i can get nolvadex if that helps? also do do you think if i take 30-40 mg of d bol a day for 4 weeks as long as i pop either all 3 or 4 in the morning, when i stop, will still have fully functioning LH and FSH values in normal range? also ive been training on and off for a year now been hittin it heavy for 3 to 4 months now 5 days a week take weekends off for recovery
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Im glad I could help, but I really would like you to keep stressing your natural potential before embarking on impeding your natural testosterone levels....

I would love to recommend our products as safe and minimal suppressive as they are , but at 135 lbs --- you need to bust your ass under the squats rack and at the dinner table more.

-Matt
 
thanks man i'm just gona hold onto the d bol for a while. just need somethin to boost my natural gains man i'm busting my ass down here

MattPorter said:
Im glad I could help, but I really would like you to keep stressing your natural potential before embarking on impeding your natural testosterone levels....

I would love to recommend our products as safe and minimal suppressive as they are , but at 135 lbs --- you need to bust your ass under the squats rack and at the dinner table more.

-Matt
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I suggest you learn to eat and workout before running gear at your age. That being said you probably have your mind set. Dbol only sucks and you will lose all or most of your gains. Try Anavar or Winstrol at 50Mg ED for 8 weeks. Some Mild PCT shold fix the nuts. Im much older and barely get any shrinkage from those.
 
gettinbig40 said:
i mean i already have the blue hearts i only have 70 of them tho. but yes i am waiting til i gain naturally. also i dont understand why i would need to pin test when i produce enough? i am a beginner so i'm just asking (:
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This should be the end of the thread. If you're saying I don't need test, I'm already producing enough, then why would you mess with dbol or anything else??? You yourself already know you're producing a surplus of test, take advantage of it.
 
i am 6'5" 110 pounds...should i start cycling now?

cmon man....135!!! get to at LEAST 190 before you cycle...yes 190...still a few years to go.

your pretty much saying:
I just got my permit for taking a written exam. I have never driven a car. Should i race nascar tomorrow or wait?
 
I done my first cycle at 21. If you study and read about them properly and understand the effects. Then who am i to stop you ? What i will do is advise you and say stay away. Your height weight...not good enough. Your knowledge...Rubbish..How long have you been training and dieting seriously ? Hit the Gym 4-5 times a week and Eat until you want to be sick you will be on your way in no time. Once you are 180+ and understand the effects of diet and training and have a set goal. Read learn and then go for your first cycle !
 
blazeftp said:
I done my first cycle at 21. If you study and read about them properly and understand the effects. Then who am i to stop you ? What i will do is advise you and say stay away. Your height weight...not good enough. Your knowledge...Rubbish..How long have you been training and dieting seriously ? Hit the Gym 4-5 times a week and Eat until you want to be sick you will be on your way in no time. Once you are 180+ and understand the effects of diet and training and have a set goal. Read learn and then go for your first cycle !
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thanks alot man n nah i decided to stay away or now. i been weight training only since febuary i been 113 pound my whole life i'm at 130 right now. i workout 5 days a week and eat alot more than i used to. but yea i will try and get up there naturally
 
Wise decision there ! I started at 105lb. Worked my ass off off for 2 years got upto 175lb 8% bf then did my first cycle. Just enjoy your years naturally just now. Plenty of time for gear at your age bro.
 
I also did my first cycle at 21.
However i got my body to 220lbs at 14% bf natty before i even thought i was ready. I had 7 dedicated years to the gym, never missed more than a few weeks consecutively. The year before i wrestled at 189lbs....

Shortly after my first cycle i entered my first body building contest at 195lbs

I also knew i wanted to do aas 3 years prior to doing them when i entered college. Those 3 years i did nothing but read, and research, and learn.... and to this day i still am doing those things and still dont have 1/4th the knowledge of some of the people on this forum.

Keep at the hard work bro,
keep eating
keep lifting
Stop drinking
Sell the dbols back to your "Expert buddy"
 
joedel said:
I also did my first cycle at 21.
However i got my body to 220lbs at 14% bf natty before i even thought i was ready. I had 7 dedicated years to the gym, never missed more than a few weeks consecutively. The year before i wrestled at 189lbs....

Shortly after my first cycle i entered my first body building contest at 195lbs

I also knew i wanted to do aas 3 years prior to doing them when i entered college. Those 3 years i did nothing but read, and research, and learn.... and to this day i still am doing those things and still dont have 1/4th the knowledge of some of the people on this forum.

Keep at the hard work bro,
keep eating
keep lifting
Stop drinking
Sell the dbols back to your "Expert buddy"
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he is by far not an expert i seen him pin without wiping injection point or top of bottle? haha thanks alot bro i'll just call it a lose of my money and hold onto them til i think i'm ready.. if they'll last that long lol. also posted a thread about pro anabolic kit by advanced muscle science if anyone could take a look n leme kno their input. thanks f0r the support also bro
 
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