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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
Biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'Covert Messiah' Conference at Conway Hall in London on the 19th of October to present this controversial discovery to the British public.

American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ. His presentation will be part of a one-day symposium entitled "Covert Messiah" at Conway Hall in Holborn (full details can be found at Covert Messiah - 19 October 2013).

Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."

Atwill asserts that Christianity did not really begin as a religion, but a sophisticated government project, a kind of propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire. "Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century," he explains. "When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."

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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
 
This reminds me of the movie Zeitgeist. Very informative...

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I always thought white man created jebus
 
This reminds me of the movie Zeitgeist. Very informative...

That movie was a joke. They rambled on about all these similarities between religions then announce at the end that it's all a conspiracy to control the world. A nice sleight of hand after distracting you with shiny objects.
 
I have never been able to make sense of the concept of a religion. It just doesnt make sense to me. It has always made sense to me that people manipulate the truth for a hidden agenda. And in a time when society didnt have a punishment system a elaborate story about higher being that may punish you for inherently incorrect acts might establish some control.
 
I'm agnostic as heck ...BUT when I was studying ancient cultures (native mainly)thought it really interesting that every culture I studied had a great flood story including the bible

I genuinely feel bad for anyone that views the Bible as anything other than I sort of guide book for good human behavior filled with stories with a moral or health objective ... "don't eat pork"-sure, don't store and cook it properly you run the risk of dying "don't shag thy neighbors wife"- crazy talk but probably solid advice to not be maced (heavy kind, not pepper spray)

and I mean hey..its endured for thousands of years to control the masses so it was obviously fairly decent propaganda
 
or in other words; aliens

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and I mean hey..its endured for thousands of years to control the masses so it was obviously fairly decent propaganda

Amen???

Surely the human race is marginally more advanced because of religion. Humans may have destoyed themselves with out some type of moral outline.
I, even today, in my life I have so much shit I cant make sense of. And I wish I had a anchor to my soul, like god, that I could diffuse all the stuff I cant make sense of. I wish I could take some of my problems and give them to god and feel absolved
 
yoga with meditation works too, no really

its a double edged sword because humans have destroyed each other plenty in the name of religion too....
 
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I'm agnostic as heck ...BUT when I was studying ancient cultures (native mainly)thought it really interesting that every culture I studied had a great flood story including the bible

I genuinely feel bad for anyone that views the Bible as anything other than I sort of guide book for good human behavior filled with stories with a moral or health objective ... "don't eat pork"-sure, don't store and cook it properly you run the risk of dying "don't shag thy neighbors wife"- crazy talk but probably solid advice to not be maced (heavy kind, not pepper spray)

and I mean hey..its endured for thousands of years to control the masses so it was obviously fairly decent propaganda

the whole pork thing is old testament based off of law, the reason for this was pork was actually used to combat and poison because of how fast it would go bad and spoil. It would cause allot of disease which is the reason why it put into the old testament.

In the new testament it states everything created by God is pure and with Gods blessing is great for us. Thats not word for work but its the point. The thing with religion and the Bible is that it is impossible to interprate. How can you trust a pastor or a man to tell you what it means if they may not know either. I do go to church and follow the word of God, however, i do not let religion dictate what I do. Religion was created by man now God. I read the Bible and pray that God tells me the meaning and helps me understand. I have walked out of many churches because i feel they are teaching based on opinion and not what is right.

To many churches are founded my hate and not love. A church that tells you to stay away from "sinners" is a wrong church when Jesus himself surrounded him by the worst sinners of them all. I think if Jesus was here to day he would kick it with the Democrats... They are just as bad as the tax collectors of the biblical times. but I read the Bible and do everything in my power to do the right thing. I believe in being a follower of Christ, not a Christian, Catholics, or jew.
 
Of coarse man created jesus and god in his own image. Why else would he be so hateful, vengeful, bigoted, greedy and a warmonger etc...

All you had to do is read the sumerian texts to figure that out. Enkei and Enlil and Anu all the same shit all over the world, for thousands of years before us....just the names change.

I tell you, I've a feeling somethings coming down the pipe, why else are they revealing all this shit now. Everything you were taught was a lie!

And some people tried to tell you's....!
 
Pretty interesting theory. Funny that the "false" religion these aristocrats created grew so much as to end up taking over control of the Roman Empire long after conventional methods of Roman war actually suppressed the Jewish State of Rebellion. Can this author point to any other cultures the Romans used a false religion to subdue? All the history books I've read state the Romans were generally tolerant of other religions. Pretty interesting this guy is trying to rewrite history the way his is. should make for an interesting if not worthless conversation piece
 
no matter what proof anyone presents some people are just not going to let go. then again, it wouldn't surprise me if this whole horse and pony show was a hoax either.

they say they hope people will accept the "possibility"

if i had concrete proof of something i would not say i hope you accept the "possibility" it's true, i'd say "them's the facts jack" i think they are presenting merely a theory.
 
Pretty interesting theory. Funny that the "false" religion these aristocrats created grew so much as to end up taking over control of the Roman Empire long after conventional methods of Roman war actually suppressed the Jewish State of Rebellion. Can this author point to any other cultures the Romans used a false religion to subdue? All the history books I've read state the Romans were generally tolerant of other religions. Pretty interesting this guy is trying to rewrite history the way his is. should make for an interesting if not worthless conversation piece


Roman Catholic Crusades?

please excuse yourself from this conversation
 
Lol @ missing the crusades...

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Roman Catholic Crusades?

please excuse yourself from this conversation

SheriV, please tell me you are not confusing the Pagan Roman Empire of the time of Christ (which I was clearly referring, as that is the obvious time period we are discussing if Aristocrats were to invent the Christian Religion as this theory states) to the Holy Roman Empire that sent the crusades over a thousand years later? Surely you are smarter than that? Pull out an 8th Grade history book and educate yourself a bit with the required reading before you step into a conversation you are clearly not prepared for.
 
SheriV, please tell me you are not confusing the Pagan Roman Empire of the time of Christ (which I was clearly referring, as that is the obvious time period we are discussing if Aristocrats were to invent the Christian Religion as this theory states) to the Holy Roman Empire that sent the crusades over a thousand years later? Surely you are smarter than that? Pull out an 8th Grade history book and educate yourself a bit with the required reading before you step into a conversation you are clearly not prepared for.

Hey, what's a thousand years here or there.
 
Amen???

Surely the human race is marginally more advanced because of religion. Humans may have destoyed themselves with out some type of moral outline.
I, even today, in my life I have so much shit I cant make sense of. And I wish I had a anchor to my soul, like god, that I could diffuse all the stuff I cant make sense of. I wish I could take some of my problems and give them to god and feel absolved

Yeah religion got us here. But, at some point you have to move forward. If you stay in first gear forever, you will eventually blow the fucking engine up. So, lets move forward past what got us, so that we can continue to evolve.
 
If you believe that government created the story of religion for mind control you must also believe that they created the story that they created the story of religion. Sneaky bastards.
 
no matter what proof anyone presents some people are just not going to let go. then again, it wouldn't surprise me if this whole horse and pony show was a hoax either.

they say they hope people will accept the "possibility"

if i had concrete proof of something i would not say i hope you accept the "possibility" it's true, i'd say "them's the facts jack" i think they are presenting merely a theory.



Now that's irony at it's finest.
 
SheriV, please tell me you are not confusing the Pagan Roman Empire of the time of Christ (which I was clearly referring, as that is the obvious time period we are discussing if Aristocrats were to invent the Christian Religion as this theory states) to the Holy Roman Empire that sent the crusades over a thousand years later? Surely you are smarter than that? Pull out an 8th Grade history book and educate yourself a bit with the required reading before you step into a conversation you are clearly not prepared for.


You had a chance to really slam her harder than you did.
 
You had a chance to really slam her harder than you did.

I rewrote it to take some of the sting out of it. She attacked, but I didn't think it was really maliciously.
 
Listen, it all boils down to hope. Everybody has to have something to hope for right? Whether it is the Christian hoping for his soul to be saved by God when he dies, the everyday Joe that always worries about money that buys a lottery ticket hoping he will be filty rich, the NASA scientists that hope they find the next habitable plant to live on to save mankind, the devil worshippers that sacrifice little animals in hopes that they can get there place beside satan, or even the heroin addict hoping to score that next fix to get high. Everybody hopes or believes in something. I believe in God. I don't care if you do or not and no I'm not going to get into an argument about it. I won't judge you so please don't judge me. I'll tell you a short story and then I'm done. My brother passed away when I was a teen. He was also a teen and had his whole life ahead of him. I dont know how many times I held a loaded gun to my head after his death and almost pulled the trigger. Do you want to know what stopped me all those times? I thought if I pull this trigger I will never get to see my brother in heaven because I would go to hell for committing suicide. That was 16 years ago. The first two years were hell. We were very close only being born two years apart. I will always think about him and think how much I want to see him. I am not going to push my religion on anybody and don't think down upon people that don't believe. That is their choice. All I know is this. If I didn't believe in God, I would have pulled that trigger and not been here today with a beautiful wife and wonderful daughter.
 
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Roman Catholic Crusades?

please excuse yourself from this conversation

SheriV, please tell me you are not confusing the Pagan Roman Empire of the time of Christ (which I was clearly referring, as that is the obvious time period we are discussing if Aristocrats were to invent the Christian Religion as this theory states) to the Holy Roman Empire that sent the crusades over a thousand years later? Surely you are smarter than that? Pull out an 8th Grade history book and educate yourself a bit with the required reading before you step into a conversation you are clearly not prepared for.

mfw
 
This is nothing new. So-called scholars have been doing this stuff for 2000 years. Check with some reputable scholars to see all the bullshit holes in it afterward. I have studied the historicity of Jesus for over 20 years and it is solid. Nothing could destabilize it. It is history.
 
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