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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

We have the best doctors in the world here in the states and they deserve every penny they can bill for. We want the best paid dr's right here in the states, not the worst paid. medical innovation happens right here in the Unites States because of that. These guys go through 4 years of med school, a year of slavery known as their medical internship, 3 more years of residency, then they are able to take the boards. Up to two more years if they chose to specialize and take a fellowship. So we are talking about 10 years post college before they are able to even earn money practicing their chosen profession. These guys are 30 years old with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt before they can begin their career. By the way if they are a general practitioner, or a hospitalist they are lucky to make 120-150k a year. The problem with healthcare in America has nothing to do with overpaid and incompetent Dr.s. I'm very sorry about your mother. I know how hard cancer can be on an individual and a family, but you are way off base here.

it seems to me having the very best doctors that no one can afford to go to is a bit off base too.
 
it seems to me having the very best doctors that no one can afford to go to is a bit off base too.

who is nobody? i see the best dr's there are.. Maybe its because i worked my ass off to have that privilege. I wasnt born with money, i was actually born to a family with a negative income level each month. My grandparents had to buy our groceries.. So the playing field is equal. If you want good insurance then earn it.
 
its funny to me an article from some fool claiming the Romans invented Jesus Christ to subdue the Jews has us talking about healthcare reform. Regardless of Jesus Christ as God, and I believe he is, whoever came up with this theory is a complete idiot to really think he can make a case.

The Romans if anything were pretty reliable in their methods. When they conquered you they pretty much left you alone as long as you paid your taxes. For those that continued to rebel they crushed you militarily and enslaved you. It was like clockwork for them. And history shows us that is exactly what the Romans did to the Jews ultimately destroying the temple in AD 70. The Romans never went through some elaborate ploy to create a Messiah to subdue a people. It wasn't their way, and nothing in the historical records showed that they used this method, or that anyone used this method ever to subdue a conquered people. Although sometimes conquered people assumed others were Gods which was used against them.

The ironic thing about this whole scenario as someone pointed out is if roman aristocrats bent on subduing the Jews really invented Christ in order to prevent having to do it militarily then their plan backfired horribly as Rome still had to destroy Jerusalem, the Jews rejected Christ, but eventually the Christian faith overtook and supplanted the Pagan Roman Gods, outlasting the Roman Empire itself and eventually came to canvas the entire world. Pretty impressive for a made up religion that was only made to calm a group of people that have never been large in number, and claim a very small piece of land as their own.
 
health care should not be a privilege only the wealthy can afford.
 
also i never said that the medical policy is right. All I am saying is Obama care is unconstitutional and should not exist. It enables and does nothing for our economy. I personally dont have an answer to make it better because I am not educated enough to know what will be efficient based off of business and majority. but keeping medical private business is key, but perhaps having programs to insure kids and college students. Then elderly that is retired. If they were to break down the barriers of health insurance the price would drop allot. Give more tax credits to facilities for medical expenses that would be a plus. but there is NO reason a guy who is 32 years old that has had 14 years to make something of him self deserves anything free. Unless he is physically disabled and not able bodied. Also the choice of medical should be based off of state vote. The power should be with in the state not the federal gov't. There is no reason why the federal gov't should have access to my medical records without a proper release of info based on the privacy act of 1974.
 
health care should not be a privilege only the wealthy can afford.

I am middle class and i have outstanding medical... 90% of our patients are middle class and they see the best dr's around. We even have tons of low income now I am stereotyping them because of the cars i see in the parking lot and the way people are dressed but its safe to assume we do have lower income patients.

So that is a blanket statement that is not based on factual evidence...
 
its funny to me an article from some fool claiming the Romans invented Jesus Christ to subdue the Jews has us talking about healthcare reform. Regardless of Jesus Christ as God, and I believe he is, whoever came up with this theory is a complete idiot to really think he can make a case.

The Romans if anything were pretty reliable in their methods. When they conquered you they pretty much left you alone as long as you paid your taxes. For those that continued to rebel they crushed you militarily and enslaved you. It was like clockwork for them. And history shows us that is exactly what the Romans did to the Jews ultimately destroying the temple in AD 70. The Romans never went through some elaborate ploy to create a Messiah to subdue a people. It wasn't their way, and nothing in the historical records showed that they used this method, or that anyone used this method ever to subdue a conquered people. Although sometimes conquered people assumed others were Gods which was used against them.

The ironic thing about this whole scenario as someone pointed out is if roman aristocrats bent on subduing the Jews really invented Christ in order to prevent having to do it militarily then their plan backfired horribly as Rome still had to destroy Jerusalem, the Jews rejected Christ, but eventually the Christian faith overtook and supplanted the Pagan Roman Gods, outlasting the Roman Empire itself and eventually came to canvas the entire world. Pretty impressive for a made up religion that was only made to calm a group of people that have never been large in number, and claim a very small piece of land as their own.

hey... basically haters are just hating because Jesus will out bench them out and actually will squat parallel. He will punk you and give you a hug when hes done.
 
it seems to me having the very best doctors that no one can afford to go to is a bit off base too.

My sister is a stay at home mom. her husband is a teacher, and they have 4 kids. They certainly aren't rich. When she was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma she was in Oklahoma, she received treatment at Stanford. The #2 location in the world for her type of cancer. Those dr's deserved every single penny of their pay for her treatment. Healthcare in America is a problem. I won't deny that, but saying no one can afford to go is what's off base in your thinking. These people did not become healers to not treat patients.

My problem is that I dont believe government interference is going to ensure more people get the treatment my sister did, and it's not going to help the people like your mom who didnt. I wish you could understand that.
 
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health care should not be a privilege only the wealthy can afford.

#1 I don't believe it is.
#2 care to show me where in the Constitution the government has a responsibility to ensure it's citizens receive healthcare?
 
please answer this though LW do you believe in the Constitution...

If you do then do you even understand what the Constitution states?

i do not believe a document written that long ago should be the live and die by bible of modern day America and her modern problems. it's pretty much been bastardized, chewed up, pissed on, spit out, misinterpreted, and sodomized since it was written.
 
care to show me where in the Constitution the government has a responsibility to ensure it's citizens receive healthcare?

do you not find that statement repulsive?
 
i do not believe a document written that long ago should be the live and die by bible of modern day America and her modern problems. it's pretty much been bastardized, chewed up, pissed on, spit out, misinterpreted, and sodomized since it was written.

have you read the constitution? you do realize it protects the US Citizen from a tyranny gov't and prevents us from being controlled.... Maybe it is to complex for you to understand but it is actually in your favour. It also protects our Bill of Rights as well.. The people honestly doing the spitting on it is the democrats.

please provide some contexts on how the Constitution is invalid with today society.

I know you believe that the government should control the people.. But what else makes it invalid with todays society. Should we not have the freedom of speech, the freedom of trial, right to bear arms, protection of illegal search and seizure.. If anything i believe it is more important to abide by the Constitution today then ever.
 
seriously, you need to stop believing that piece of parchment protects you from anything because it doesn't. it doesn't rein in govt control or corruption. it never has. we are being spied on, cops break down our door, stop and frisk us on the streets for No reason... please don't tell me this document is protecting shit. it isn't.
 
do you not find that statement repulsive?

it is not a federal responsibility for healthcare... its a state responsibility. If something needs to be changed in the constitution because it is outdated it needs to be voted on not ignored. If the federal gov't needs to take control of health care a vote should take place to ratify the constitution. Not just because you voted for a president but a separate vote from the people based on majority to make a change to the constitution. The gov't disregarding the constitution is not right and as a democracy the power should be in the people not the federal gov't... what you are basically saying is you are unable to care for your self and need the gov't to take control./
 
if a cop stops you now he has the right to go through your phone. how the FUCK are we protected? if you really think we have any of those rights you just haven't had your cherry busted yet.
 
seriously, you need to stop believing that piece of parchment protects you from anything because it doesn't. it doesn't rein in govt control or corruption. it never has. we are being spied on, cops break down our door, stop and frisk us on the streets for No reason... please don't tell me this document is protecting shit. it isn't.

because people allow it to happen. Cop breaks into my door with out a warrant he and his superiors will find them selves on suspension fast. A cop illegally searches me the same thing. Cops are swarn to uphold the constitution if they do not then they need to be punished for not upholding the commitment. The problem is people are weak and allow them selves to be walked on. Edward Snowden put his life at risk to warn the people. If people sit here and do jack shit yes it will happen. I have NEVER had my civil rights violated and I have refused a cop into my house multiple times when i was younger throwing parties. He had complaints of loud music asked to come in, I said I will turn the music down and that is all but I will not allow you to search my home based off the constitution. If you have probably cause i have no problem letting you in but if it is based off of opinion that i would like to see a warrant.

I went through a check point and refused a breathalyser and they had to let me go and also refused a mobile check point for vehicle smog. Told them both it has to be volunteering and I have not been drinking or I will not allow my car to be smogged. I did get a letter in the mail saying my smog date got pushed forward though but people allow this to happen. They do not know their rights.
 
do you not find that statement repulsive?

NOT AT ALL. I don't believe in gov't over reach and neither do you. There are things the gov't is good at and things it isn't, those things should be left to the people. Every year I march for and solicit donations for breast cancer research. I do that because it's something I believe in, and it's something I think private organizations can do better than the gov't can. So we should

You and I want the same thing LW. We both want better healthcare for ourselves and our loved ones. Where we disagree is the belief that Obamacare can get us there. For whatever reason you believe it can. I'll tell you this though, my belief that Obamacare is not the solution is not based upon political party ideologue. It's based upon the fact that i've spent my entire career in healthcare. I know some super intelligent people in the industry. National Leaders, none of them feel Obamacare is the answer. That is what i've based my belief on.
 
if a cop stops you now he has the right to go through your phone. how the FUCK are we protected? if you really think we have any of those rights you just haven't had your cherry busted yet.

he has no right to go through your phone lol... the police officer has NO right to ask you any questions that has no relations to the stop. If he does you do not have to answer them. A simple reply of I prefer to speak with my lawyer if you want me to answer any additional questions not regarding the traffic stop. If your stopped for your cell phone, you say no, this is considered PII and I would like to speak with a lawyer if you continue to insist. The problem is people get punked by cops.. Be respectful dont resist them but know your rights.
 
seriously, you need to stop believing that piece of parchment protects you from anything because it doesn't. it doesn't rein in govt control or corruption. it never has. we are being spied on, cops break down our door, stop and frisk us on the streets for No reason... please don't tell me this document is protecting shit. it isn't.

it's this attitude that allows the government to walk all over our rights. And I know you believe just as strongly as I do that we need to fight back against government over reach
 
i don't believe in god and think all religion is a man made crock of shit... i do believe in love one another and look out for each other. simple as that. i have to pay to feed pedophiles and keep them alive and cozy in prison... i don't like it but it's how it is. at least keeping Americans healthy that HAVEN'T fucked a baby in the ass is a good thing.
 
i don't believe in god and think all religion is a man made crock of shit... i do believe in love one another and look out for each other. simple as that. i have to pay to feed pedophiles and keep them alive and cozy in prison... i don't like it but it's how it is. at least keeping Americans healthy that HAVEN'T fucked a baby in the ass is a good thing.

this has NOTHING to do with the constitution. You realize with the constitution the gov't can put out if your not Christian you will be killed and that will be lawful. What you state has NOTHING to do with the constitution.
 
you realize that's preposterous i hope. esp with a democrat in office.
 
this has NOTHING to do with the constitution. You realize with the constitution the gov't can put out if your not Christian you will be killed and that will be lawful. What you state has NOTHING to do with the constitution.

You also realise the the Constitution is not a document that is based off of religion. It states the word Lord once in a general reference of the year. Because in the past it was common to state after the year of our lord instead of saying AD

"Seventeenth Day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America."

No where in the constitution does it dictate bible, certain religions and ect. Maybe you should educate your self more on something instead of just doing google searches to find opinionated answers. You call me blinded by the media but if you rationalize your opinion of the Constitution based off of that answer then I am sorry you are extremely uneducated and misguided.
 
you realize that's preposterous i hope. esp with a democrat in office.

you do not understand the point the fact it, it is still possible and it does not matter what party they are it matters of their views. Look at socialist Russia not to long ago if you opposed their gov't you were killed. Do you even know why the constitution was ratified or the significance of it? How power those signatures actually are? People were killed for not obeying the monarchies religion and being puritans. They were taxed unfair and forced into a belief system.

with out the constitution we are not protected period. If they took out freedom of religion... Legally they can do ANY thing they want.
 
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so today the fight is for good health for all so tomorrow the thought police can kill them? ooookay. :thinking:
 
you realize that's preposterous i hope. esp with a democrat in office.

you also state this with the premise that a democrat will all ways be in office for forever.

Here is the problem and something you should actually FEAR alot being a Democrat. Lets say Jeb gets into office another Bush and is influenced but good ol George for decisions. Do you realized the power what we just gave him with medical... You realize what he can do with that now? If you think Obama is the only one willing to go over congress wait until we get a President that that you think has bad intentions. Now the gov't has full control of healthcare... Look at the power in which we just granted them. We took it out of the hands of the people and placed our medical in the hands of the gov't.

A gov't who cant even pay our military right now. A gov;t that takes over a year to process paper work for blown up soldiers to get care and disability.
 
so today the fight is for good health for all so tomorrow the thought police can kill them? ooookay. :thinking:

you dont answer any questions period... you just come back with more uneducated spills of nonsense...

So you believe that people should be controlled in decision making by the gov't
 
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