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It was declared constitutional because it is a tax and the gov't has the right to levy taxes. Aren't you the one complaining about how we are overtaxed, and the government needs to leave us alone?

bro LW is a monkey lover. she will still convince herself that she is "happy" even if her premiums skyrocket like a lot of other people's already have started to.. she be like "hurrr so what everything doubled in cost, my side still won lolz".. :coffee:
 
Just wanted to update everyone, Jesus does not support Obama Care. A missing ancient text was newly discovered stating that Jesus didn't believe that Obama was a real person, so his health care plan is just a figment of the democrats imagination.
 
Yeah!

For some reason LW turns me on in this thread :-d maybe it was the squirt comments hehe :-D Geez I sure am thirsty :-O


but srsly... who here really knows... i believe in evolution as a WAY of creation. there is energies (god) all around us that we dont see with our eyes... there IS evolution, but that doesnt mean every animal is going to keep evolving unless its genetics are pressured too IMO.. so the argument of "well this animal hasnt changed| or " we dont know how this one came to be" or "this one cant evolve" just because you dont know doesnt mean you have to bible thump to have an explanation for your ego driven mind.... atleast i can say i dont know all the facets of life/evolution, but i sure as hell am not going to believe nonsense from a book made BY MEN and limit myself, because it is easier to understand or accept...


i think the hot release that feels like a gush with orgasm is real "squirting". there's enough wetness to be all foamy clear sticky bubbles. it's MUCH thicker viscosity than urine and ropes if you have your fingers in it like a man's precum does. there just isn't half a cup of it. somewhere i have a pic i took for my bf of a toy all soaked in bubbles.

sorry but i couldn't resist the cheap thrill of desecrating the altar of this jesus thread. :coffee:
 
bro LW is a monkey lover. she will still convince herself that she is "happy" even if her premiums skyrocket like a lot of other people's already have started to.. she be like "hurrr so what everything doubled in cost, my side still won lolz".. :coffee:

canada has spoken. it works and keeps people alive longer. the people pissing themselves over the cost of health care insurance obviously don't buy it... so what happens when they have an issue? they suck the govt tit just as vigorously as anyone else is what. :shrug:
 
canada has spoken. it works and keeps people alive longer. the people pissing themselves over the cost of health care insurance obviously don't buy it... so what happens when they have an issue? they suck the govt tit just as vigorously as anyone else is what. :shrug:

have you educated your self on how Canada is actually functioning with healthcare or did you just google something and call it a day?

The average Canadian family pays about 48 percent of its income in taxes each year, partly to fund the health care system. Rates vary from province to province, but Ontario, the most populous, spends roughly 40 percent of every tax dollar on health care, according to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.


Americans who flock to Canada for cheap flu shots often come away impressed at the free and first-class medical care available to Canadians, rich or poor. But tell that to hospital administrators constantly having to cut staff for lack of funds, or to the mother whose teenager was advised she would have to wait up to three years for surgery to repair a torn knee ligament

The system is going broke, says the federation, which campaigns for tax reform and private enterprise in health care.

It calculates that at present rates, Ontario will be spending 85 percent of its budget on health care by 2035. "We can't afford a state monopoly on health care anymore," says Tasha Kheiriddin, Ontario director of the federation. "We have to examine private alternatives as well."


George Zeliotis told the court he suffered pain and became addicted to painkillers during a yearlong wait for hip replacement surgery, and should have been allowed to pay for faster service. His physician, Dr. Jacques Chaoulli, said his patient's constitutional rights were violated because Quebec couldn't provide the care he needed, but didn't offer him the option of getting it privately.

Another watershed lawsuit was filed last year against 12 Quebec hospitals on behalf of 10,000 breast-cancer patients in Quebec who had to wait more than eight weeks for radiation therapy during a period dating to October 1997.

One woman went to Turkey for treatment. Another, Johanne Lavoie, was among several sent to the United States. Diagnosed with invasive breast cancer in 1999, she traveled every week with her 5-year-old son to Vermont, a four-hour bus ride.

"It was an inhuman thing to live through," Lavoie told Toronto's Globe and Mail.


An estimated 4 million of Canada's 33 million people don't have family physicians and more than 1 million are on waiting lists for treatment, according to the Canadian Medical Association. Meanwhile, some 200 physicians head to the United States each year, attracted by lower taxes and better working conditions. Canada has 2.1 physicians per 1,000 people, while Belgium has 3.9, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

This I why people in Canada save additional income so they can get treatment in the US right?
 
I read articles like that and think, "wow, medicine in Canada sucks"'. Then I realize I live a few hours from the boarder, make several trips hunting and fishing a year, and my sister lives in Toronto. You know what my first hand account of Canadians tells me about that article?

That was written by someone pushing an agenda who hasn't bothered to ask real Canadians about their health care.

Of the thousands of Canadians I've now met I have yet to hear of a single horror story regarding their medical care. Funny how that works out huh ?
 
I read articles like that and think, "wow, medicine in Canada sucks"'. Then I realize I live a few hours from the boarder, make several trips hunting and fishing a year, and my sister lives in Toronto. You know what my first hand account of Canadians tells me about that article?

That was written by someone pushing an agenda who hasn't bothered to ask real Canadians about their health care.

Of the thousands of Canadians I've now met I have yet to hear of a single horror story regarding their medical care. Funny how that works out huh ?

All of this was written from a Canadian source. None of it was from the US. All from Canadian newsletters and court cases. I also know many people from Canada as well that can not stand the health care system. the big key points here average Canadian pays 48% of their income to taxes. Also another fact there is only 2.1 doctors to 1,000 people. Another fact is even though their health care system is rated higher then ours which is not saying much it still is barely beating us with a rank of 30 and ours is 37. There is a huge difference also to canadas healthcare and Obama care. Canada provides their insurance to everyone at a VERY low rate around 96$ for a house hold of two. For my self to have Obama care as a silver plan I am looking at 600$ and If i wanted to piggy back my health care for additional coverage that is 800$ for my healthcare.

Where as in France it is also highly affordable and people still buy private healthcare so it ends up covering it 100%. With my current status in France to cover my self 100$ I would pay less then 200$ a month and never have a hospital bill. You see I am getting something back for the taxes that I pay with good insurance from France..

If I elect to use Obamacare so i can get my tax money out of it, then I will spend 600$ and only cover 70% of coverage with a 13,000$ deductible. The problem is that our country physically can not afford this right now.
 
have you educated your self on how Canada is actually functioning with healthcare or did you just google something and call it a day?

The average Canadian family pays about 48 percent of its income in taxes each year, partly to fund the health care system. Rates vary from province to province, but Ontario, the most populous, spends roughly 40 percent of every tax dollar on health care, according to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.


Americans who flock to Canada for cheap flu shots often come away impressed at the free and first-class medical care available to Canadians, rich or poor. But tell that to hospital administrators constantly having to cut staff for lack of funds, or to the mother whose teenager was advised she would have to wait up to three years for surgery to repair a torn knee ligament

The system is going broke, says the federation, which campaigns for tax reform and private enterprise in health care.

It calculates that at present rates, Ontario will be spending 85 percent of its budget on health care by 2035. "We can't afford a state monopoly on health care anymore," says Tasha Kheiriddin, Ontario director of the federation. "We have to examine private alternatives as well."


George Zeliotis told the court he suffered pain and became addicted to painkillers during a yearlong wait for hip replacement surgery, and should have been allowed to pay for faster service. His physician, Dr. Jacques Chaoulli, said his patient's constitutional rights were violated because Quebec couldn't provide the care he needed, but didn't offer him the option of getting it privately.

Another watershed lawsuit was filed last year against 12 Quebec hospitals on behalf of 10,000 breast-cancer patients in Quebec who had to wait more than eight weeks for radiation therapy during a period dating to October 1997.

One woman went to Turkey for treatment. Another, Johanne Lavoie, was among several sent to the United States. Diagnosed with invasive breast cancer in 1999, she traveled every week with her 5-year-old son to Vermont, a four-hour bus ride.

"It was an inhuman thing to live through," Lavoie told Toronto's Globe and Mail.


An estimated 4 million of Canada's 33 million people don't have family physicians and more than 1 million are on waiting lists for treatment, according to the Canadian Medical Association. Meanwhile, some 200 physicians head to the United States each year, attracted by lower taxes and better working conditions. Canada has 2.1 physicians per 1,000 people, while Belgium has 3.9, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

This I why people in Canada save additional income so they can get treatment in the US right?

Im in ontario... and i am fine... my mom has had MANT sergeries, most not pressing. is system perfect? no, but its a heck of alot bettert than US. here you dont walk into the er with your fingers cut off from a work accident and have to choose which 2 of the 5 you want to keep because you cant afford them all... you can look at many horrible cases in the US also in regards to healthcare. getting second opinions and finding a doc that will press your issue to get faster results us on you at times. some have the money to get it done quicker. but its not a must. you will live weather you CAN or CAN NIT afford it, as it should be,. and if you tear ligaments in leg they do quicker job then making you wait, it would effect recovering waiting too long. but sure I am sure there are "horror stories" you can find about canada, just like the US.

We take care of our people rich or poor... you do not...

Many people here are a draIN ON the system. goign into doc and Er with simple flues and other stupid issues that are wasting money and time of others. we will adjust system as need be. liek for example maybe gov covers 75% of costs and you must pay 25% of it. they it WILL detour easily 30% of visits, make visits that are made more worth while. cut down on burden ans unneeded Er visits and doc visits AND save millions. even just adding a *you pay 10% * will change this for the better... if it gets ot that point. also this is a time all the "baby boomers" are getting very old and that raises costs..

atleast we are going in right direction,,,
 
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you also forget advancements o=in science and medical care... which will cut down many issues/cost people are getting treated or cured.
 
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have you educated your self on how Canada is actually functioning with healthcare or did you just google something and call it a day?

The average Canadian family pays about 48 percent of its income in taxes each year, partly to fund the health care system. Rates vary from province to province, but Ontario, the most populous, spends roughly 40 percent of every tax dollar on health care, according to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.


Americans who flock to Canada for cheap flu shots often come away impressed at the free and first-class medical care available to Canadians, rich or poor. But tell that to hospital administrators constantly having to cut staff for lack of funds, or to the mother whose teenager was advised she would have to wait up to three years for surgery to repair a torn knee ligament

The system is going broke, says the federation, which campaigns for tax reform and private enterprise in health care.

It calculates that at present rates, Ontario will be spending 85 percent of its budget on health care by 2035. "We can't afford a state monopoly on health care anymore," says Tasha Kheiriddin, Ontario director of the federation. "We have to examine private alternatives as well."


George Zeliotis told the court he suffered pain and became addicted to painkillers during a yearlong wait for hip replacement surgery, and should have been allowed to pay for faster service. His physician, Dr. Jacques Chaoulli, said his patient's constitutional rights were violated because Quebec couldn't provide the care he needed, but didn't offer him the option of getting it privately.

Another watershed lawsuit was filed last year against 12 Quebec hospitals on behalf of 10,000 breast-cancer patients in Quebec who had to wait more than eight weeks for radiation therapy during a period dating to October 1997.

One woman went to Turkey for treatment. Another, Johanne Lavoie, was among several sent to the United States. Diagnosed with invasive breast cancer in 1999, she traveled every week with her 5-year-old son to Vermont, a four-hour bus ride.

"It was an inhuman thing to live through," Lavoie told Toronto's Globe and Mail.


An estimated 4 million of Canada's 33 million people don't have family physicians and more than 1 million are on waiting lists for treatment, according to the Canadian Medical Association. Meanwhile, some 200 physicians head to the United States each year, attracted by lower taxes and better working conditions. Canada has 2.1 physicians per 1,000 people, while Belgium has 3.9, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

This I why people in Canada save additional income so they can get treatment in the US right?

actually i asked my bf of 9 years, who has lived in Montreal his entire life, his opinion of their healthcare system. his family uses the national health care exclusively even though they could easily afford not to. we have discussed this at length many times considering my intent to move there eventually.
 
actually i asked my bf of 9 years, who has lived in Montreal his entire life, his opinion of their healthcare system. his family uses the national health care exclusively even though they could easily afford not to. we have discussed this at length many times considering my intent to move there eventually.

Is bf your boyfriend?
 
actually i asked my bf of 9 years, who has lived in Montreal his entire life, his opinion of their healthcare system. his family uses the national health care exclusively even though they could easily afford not to. we have discussed this at length many times considering my intent to move there eventually.
and this addresses the statistics posted how?
 
I read articles like that and think, "wow, medicine in Canada sucks"'. Then I realize I live a few hours from the boarder, make several trips hunting and fishing a year, and my sister lives in Toronto. You know what my first hand account of Canadians tells me about that article?

That was written by someone pushing an agenda who hasn't bothered to ask real Canadians about their health care.

Of the thousands of Canadians I've now met I have yet to hear of a single horror story regarding their medical care. Funny how that works out huh ?

of the thousands of Canadians you've met how many have you talked to about their healthcare? I work in healthcare, and have my whole career, both recruiting of doctors and in market research and i can tell you i've had hundreds of calls with doctors, or healthcare professionals in canada, and almost universally they complain about the system and the doctors want to come here to practice......
 

The average Canadian family pays about 48 percent of its income in taxes each year, partly to fund the health care system. Rates vary from province to province, but Ontario, the most populous, spends roughly 40 percent of every tax dollar on health care, according to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

That doesn't sound right. According to the CRA the highest tax bracket is 29%. Also, 1/3 of the country pays no income taxes. Any idea where that number came from?

Edit: I think this is where it is coming from. How much tax do Canadians really pay? Be afraid. Be very afraid :: La Jornada Hispanic Newspaper :: ENGLISH CONTENT
 
of the thousands of Canadians you've met how many have you talked to about their healthcare? I work in healthcare, and have my whole career, both recruiting of doctors and in market research and i can tell you i've had hundreds of calls with doctors, or healthcare professionals in canada, and almost universally they complain about the system and the doctors want to come here to practice......

I'm sure the fact that US doctors make 3x the OECD average has nothing to do with that. in the rest of the world being a Dr is like being a teacher or an engineer, it's no big deal just "another" career. only in the US are Dr's put up on pedestals.
there's so many dam Dr's in India they make more money working in the call centers due to the over crowding of Dr's there.
 
I'm sure the fact that US doctors make 3x the OECD average has nothing to do with that. in the rest of the world being a Dr is like being a teacher or an engineer, it's no big deal just "another" career. only in the US are Dr's put up on pedestals.
there's so many dam Dr's in India they make more money working in the call centers due to the over crowding of Dr's there.

I want Dr's making 3X the OECD average. I want a man who goes through 4 years of med school, a slavery year of internship, 3 years of residency, and a two year fellowship to know there is monetary compensation at the end of the tunnel when he has to treat my sisters cancer. If Dr's aren't paid like kings then they will use their intelligence in other endeavors. We want the best and brightest as our Dr's, not second, or third best. Right now we are even seeing a shortage of Dr's because of a drop in pay. This is not the trend we want to continue. I can assure you that much. Dr's are not teachers, or engineers. I can assure you that. And none of us wants one to be when they are literally holding the heart of a loved one in their hands.

Every time you post LAM i'm more and more convinced you are a communist.
 
those statistics are inaccurate as most agenda driven ones usually are.
 
I'm sure the fact that US doctors make 3x the OECD average has nothing to do with that. in the rest of the world being a Dr is like being a teacher or an engineer, it's no big deal just "another" career. only in the US are Dr's put up on pedestals.
there's so many dam Dr's in India they make more money working in the call centers due to the over crowding of Dr's there.

Do you think that is ^^^a good idea?

Would you like to see American Dr's in the same tax bracket as school teachers?

Are they just a no big deal or "another career" as you stated ?

Why is it good for you to enjoy financial stability as an IT guy but you find fault in others who have attained it in their chosen profession? Please elaborate for me...
 
Every time you post LAM i'm more and more convinced you are a communist.

I think he is. He seems mainly concerned with equality and arguments that it's good for the economy is just a tactic not the real motive.
 
yeaaaaa, we want wages kept low and doctors charging so much that no one can afford to see one. makes perfect sense. sounds like the plot of people who are just too pussy to go out and murder the poor and get it over with.
 
yeaaaaa, we want wages kept low and doctors charging so much that no one can afford to see one. makes perfect sense. sounds like the plot of people who are just too pussy to go out and murder the poor and get it over with.

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