Are there "bad" fruits/veggies?

[Destram]

Well as of right now and probably for awhile longer im bulking, but i was wondering if there are any fruits of vegetables to avoid when bulking or cutting. The fruits that i often eat are apples, pears, raisins, grapes, and sometimes some berries. For vegetables i eat corn, green beans, and cauliflower. I noticed that on the nutrition labels for like the pears and raisins they have a good ammount of sugar per serving. Are these fruits to stay away from?

 

[w8lifter]

Well...this is relative..I mean, all veggies and fruits are going to have vitamins and are technically not a bad food, however, and a big however at that....as in everything, there are varying degrees of 'good' Some fruits are higher in sugar than others, some have a lower fibre content and therefore an unfavourable insulin response. Same goes for veggies.

Generally if you're bulking, unless you're using a specific slow-burning bulking diet, you'd be able to eat even the 'less than desireable' fruits and veggies.

If you're on a cut, the best fruits and veggies to consume are sweet potatoes or yams, summer squash, apples, peaches, berries, avacados, grapefruit, all green leafy veggies...and my brains not working and I've forgotten stuff, lol.

Avoid corn, carrots, raisins, potatoes, grapes.

 

[Destram]

Thanks.

Sounds like its gonna suck when i start cutting.

 

[LAM]

Originally posted by w8lifter
Avoid corn, carrots, raisins, potatoes, grapes.

especially avoid these if going on a keto diet, they will throw most people out of ketosis even when consumed in small quantities...

 

[Destram]

Originally posted by LAM


especially avoid these if going on a keto diet, they will throw most people out of ketosis even when consumed in small quantities...

What is a keto diet? Is that like totally doing away with sugars?

 

[LAM]

it's a very low carb diet which forces your body to use ketones (well most cells) for energy vs glycogen. It's not a very healthy diet but can be effective for losing body fat if done properly. It's not for long term use, and is not good for athletes involved in other types of sports...

 

[Destram]

Thanks.

I don't know jack about cutting and im gonna have to find out about it sometime, but i got at least a year or more before i have to worry about it.

 

[mmafiter]

The "bad" veggies are the ones hanging out around the crisper drinking booze and threatening the condiments.

 

[J'Bo]

Do not listen to those "fad diets" that have no validity. If your body does not recieve enough carbs it will convert your protein into a carb. Its an expensive way to lose a few pounds. Instead choose healthy slow burning carbs to fuel your body.

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by J'Bo
Do not listen to those "fad diets" that have no validity. If your body does not recieve enough carbs it will convert your protein into a carb. Its an expensive way to lose a few pounds. Instead choose healthy slow burning carbs to fuel your body.

AND FATS!

DP

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by LAM
It's not a very healthy diet

And why do you say that?

 

[J'Bo]

TCD: Cause its not.

DP: Yes you cant forget your fats, they are the second most important ingrediant for a hot bod.

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by J'Bo
TCD: Cause its not.

DP: Yes you cant forget your fats, they are the second most important ingrediant for a hot bod.

J'Bo, what's first?


KILLER SEX DRIVE?


DP

 

[J'Bo]

Hahha, i dont know? I read the list you gave me last night and am thinking of starting DHEA. Sorry for chatting about this on your thread. I posted it in my 11 monthes to mega muscle DP.

 

[LAM]

TCD...are you serious about needing an explanation ?

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by J'Bo
Hahha, i dont know? I read the list you gave me last night and am thinking of starting DHEA. Sorry for chatting about this on your thread. I posted it in my 11 monthes to mega muscle DP.

J'Bo...don't go to DHEA.....not at your age....unless you have had a hysterectomy....or are menopausal....stay away form it! Even at low dose....DHEA in women can cause hirtuism....irreversible deepening of the voice and facial hair!


DP

 

[Robboe]

Yes. Serious.

Why do you think it's unhealthy?


(P.s. J'Bo, great explanation. No, really.)

 

[w8lifter]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Yes. Serious.

Why do you think it's unhealthy?


(P.s. Lina, great explanation. No, really.)

You mean J'bo

 

[Robboe]

Ah shag, yes.

 

[w8lifter]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Ah shag, yes.

Was that an invitation?

 

[Robboe]

My God woman!

You work off such thin material. You really deserve a medal or some sort of record of achievement.

 

[w8lifter]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
My God woman!

You work off such thin material. You really deserve a medal or some sort of record of achievement.

Spank you

 

[J'Bo]

Thanks TCD, i can see we are going to be great friends.

I'll give W8 a medal alright. She definately deserves it. Hehe.

 

[Robboe]

J'Bo, my original questions is for you also.

 

[J'Bo]

What was the question honey?

 

[Robboe]

Why do you think ketosis diets are unhealthy?

 

[Scotty the Body]

Originally posted by mmafiter
The "bad" veggies are the ones hanging out around the crisper drinking booze and threatening the condiments.

"When good veggies go bad" hahahahahaha

 

[J'Bo]

I already posted why they dont work.
#1 they are so short lived that once you start eating carbs you blow up like a balloon
#2 you have no energy
#3 if your body is lacking in carbs it just converts your protein into a carb anyways, so why waste your money

Need anymore reasons?
Darling.

 

[w8lifter]

J'bo....on a keto diet your menu consist's mostly of fat...not protein...you are correct, too much protein will be converted....which is why you must eat 70-80% fat.

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by J'Bo
I already posted why they dont work.
#1 they are so short lived that once you start eating carbs you blow up like a balloon
#2 you have no energy
#3 if your body is lacking in carbs it just converts your protein into a carb anyways, so why waste your money

Need anymore reasons?
Darling.

Hmmm....


Before i go any further, let me ask you some questions:

1. Have you ever done a keto diet?

2. If so, are you positive you actually made it into ketosis?

3. Have you actually read up on ketosis?