CKD Length of Carb Load

[brickshthouse79]

I'm on my third week of a CKD. The first week, I did the BodyOpus approach to carb loading. The second week, I read Lyle McDonald's Ketogenic Diet book and decided to cut the load to 30 hours. I also ran hexarelin during my carb load which may have had an impact on the process - to be determined.

Anyway, what is more common for a 7 day protocol, the 24 hour or 48 hour carb load? Any input on results when comparing the two would help. For those that ran the 24 hour protocol, did you modify your workout routine?

p.s by Thursday of the second week, I had dropped 4 lbs of scale weight and 1% of bodyfat. The diet is working! Sp far, my strength has not declined at all.

Thank you in advance!

 

[brickshthouse79]

Just an update... I ran a 30 hour carb load this weekend while taking hexarelin every 4 hours or so. I think it prevented my body from storing glycogen in my muscles. I am quite sure I was back in ketosis my Monday evening and Tuesday I felt tired and nauseas. Next week, I will omit the hexarelin.

 

[SBT]

yeah i would see how quickly you baseline after the load... if 2-3 days then your load was prob right on, if 4-5 days it was prob too big, etc and gauge it that way.

 

[assassin]

what's ckd?? carb ketogenic diet ?

 

[Built]

cyclic ketogenic diet. Extended keto, with periodic carbups.

 

[assassin]

cyclic ketogenic diet. Extended keto, with periodic carbups.

Are there any links for this ?? I want to try it soon .... I want a good reference because I know ketogennic diets would hurt your metabolism so much, that's why I want to be careful ... any help possible ??

 

[Built]

You know how ketogenic diets hurt your metabolism? Really?

News to me.

Re CKD, read Lyle. Look at UD2.0

 

[assassin]

You know how ketogenic diets hurt your metabolism? Really?

News to me.

Re CKD, read Lyle. Look at UD2.0

Well I have read that low carb diets for a long time will reduce your metabolism dramatically .... is it true or not ??

 

[XYZ]

False.

 

[Built]

I think it depends how lean you are to begin with.

I did Atkins in straight keto for just shy of a year. Lost 40 lbs, and my maintenance is still around 15 times my bodyweight. And I'm closing in on fifty.

All dieting drops your metabolic rate. It's a protective mechanism your body induces, to protect you from the famine.

 

[assassin]

I think it depends how lean you are to begin with.

I did Atkins in straight keto for just shy of a year. Lost 40 lbs, and my maintenance is still around 15 times my bodyweight. And I'm closing in on fifty.

All dieting drops your metabolic rate. It's a protective mechanism your body induces, to protect you from the famine.

hmmm Nice I am around 73 KG at 13-14% BF Percentage .... I am planning to drop a little below 10% and maintain fo a while .. I am using Carb Cycling shall I use ketogenic now ?? or when I am already close t 10% I use ketogenic??

I think on of the advantages of the keto diets that it supreses appetite so much because of very low insulin levels ... so what do you think ??

 

[Built]

Keto advantages to me are appetite suppression and reduction of alpha-2 adrenoceptor activity (in English: it helps me drop leg/ass fat).

Plus I totally love fat. Mmmm... fat!

 

[Life]

Only real problem with keto is the delay in your body adjusting to fat as a fuel source vs. the carbs. I'm not actually sure how carb ups effect that. Inuits burn fat as a fuel source because they have no carbs. If you stay on keto long enough (w/o carbs) your body changes over to burning fat. Is your body then switching back and forth if you carb cycle? Generally carb cycling is done once a week and from the studies I have read it takes up to two weeks for the body to adjust to a keto diet. Interested in your opinion Built. Do you feel that the carbs are simply replacing glycogen and water weight?

 

[Built]

Only real problem with keto is the delay in your body adjusting to fat as a fuel source vs. the carbs. I'm not actually sure how carb ups effect that.

It's easy to check with keto strips. I can get into ketosis within a day now. My understanding is that the enzymes that allow your body to do the switch increase, but perhaps someone else knows something other than rumour.

Inuits burn fat as a fuel source because they have no carbs. If you stay on keto long enough (w/o carbs) your body changes over to burning fat. Is your body then switching back and forth if you carb cycle?

That's the story, yes.

Generally carb cycling is done once a week and from the studies I have read it takes up to two weeks for the body to adjust to a keto diet.

Interested in your opinion Built. Do you feel that the carbs are simply replacing glycogen and water weight?

And topping up leptin, and letting your liver know you're not starving. Plus they're yummy.

 

[Life]

I don't need keto strips, I can tell by the smell

 

[Built]

Of course, but if you haven't done keto before you might not know how to tell.

 

[assassin]

well I have to check that out ...