confused about certain movements

[Scarface30]

I am currently designing a new routine and wanted to add in the DB snatch and also start doing hang cleans again. I've always done hang cleans in a fullbody routine, but I am thinking about going back to the upper (horizontal-vertical)/lower (horizontal-vertical) split and was wondering what movement plane each would fall under?

 

[Merkaba]

I am currently designing a new routine and wanted to add in the DB snatch and also start doing hang cleans again. I've always done hang cleans in a fullbody routine, but I am thinking about going back to the upper (horizontal-vertical)/lower (horizontal-vertical) split and was wondering what movement plane each would fall under?

I'm not a fan of hangs. Just one of those exercises that I would do only if a coach was telling me to. I feel like you can get the same benefits from doing other "safer" stuff. The same for snatches for me. I'm not gonna risk injury doing exercises that I feel like I'm doing just because I'm young or want to look studly in the gym. Hell I get looked at like a freak cause i do atg squats! If I started back hanging they'd try to kick me out! I did get good trap development when hanging but now I do heavy raises to keep them responding. heavy for me is like 425.

I wouldnt do either unless I was competing for something. These are my opinions. I'm sure many pro's or semi pros still do the stuff.
As far as where to group them. I would say both. Obviously its a pull but we did them in college to increase leg power and better 40 times.

 

[Built]

I respectfully disagree - hang cleans are a staple of my workout, and one of my favourite lifts. I do them before shoulder work, on vertical push pull day.

To the OP: here's the form vid I learned them from: http://www.uwlax.edu/strengthcenter/videos/exercisevideos/Hang Clean (above knee).mpg

 

[Merkaba]

WHAT.... you disagree??what

I dont like em and I dont like this guys back. looks more like he's just bending over, like so many do, instead of loading up with a good base/tight core. Maybe I'm being a stickler tonight. it is pass my bed time.

 

[Built]

LOL - well, here's another - this one's a full clean, but you'll see the movement nonetheless: NSCA Video Library Presented by Dartfish

My delts blew up when I started doing hang cleans and push presses. Love 'em love 'em love 'em.

 

[Scarface30]

Merkaba - I see what you're saying, but from doing them before for a few months, I've had no problems with them seeing as though I would never go any higher than 80lbs until I felt 100% confident that my form was perfect.

Built - thanks for those links, they are very informative for not only cleans but a lot of other exercises too.

 

[Merkaba]

Yea, I'm not saying its a bad exercise. Just alot going on. Like doing clean and jerk. Leaving a lot to go wrong. Hey knock em out. Just dont hurt yourself.

 

[fufu]

They total body movements if you do them correctly. However, the hang clean is does involve more upper body than a full clean, but still total body.