Dbol and Winstrol first

[jaredp]

Ok i have never used steroids before but im gonna start. Im not really big but not skin an bones. im about 6 foot and weigh about 155lbs. From what I read and what people tell me dbol is one of the best steriods for gaining weight an muscle mass fast and winstrol is one of the the best for getting really cut. What im going for is a really hard body and very cut like a nice six pack and more strength. I heard that it is very dangerous to take them at the same time. So i was thinking of doing 6 weeks of dbol at 25mg a day followed by 6 weeks of winstrol at 50mg a day. I will be working out 5 days a week. I want to get cut which is what the winstrol does i was only considering the dbol before because since i only weigh 155 i think i may need to bulk up some before i try to cut. What im getting to is this...
Is my plan and dosage good? (25mg day dbol 50mg day winstrol 6 weeks each)
If not what is good for me as a first time?
Should I forget the dbol all together and just do winstrol?
If so would just winstrol tone and cut me without losing to much weight but also give me more strength?
Also where can i get these?
I want my muscles to be very visible and toned along with more strength and very cut up.

All will be in pill form!

 

[D-Lats]

Don't do either put on 20 or 30 lbs first train hard eat tons and you will be much happier! 6' and 155 you are skin and bones with nothing to cut! You would just be wasting money if you do this cycle now! Oral only cycles will mess you up!

 

[jaredp]

i was thinking this because ive tried that. I eat tons i work out alot but i dont ever gain weight.

 

[D0C]

Then you probably need to eat if your actually eatting a shit ton and its clean eating your put on weight bro..like jared oral only cycles are trouble bro how old are you??

 

[jaredp]

im 19. so ok yall say forget the steriods completely in my case. so what can i do to achieve what i was wanting. i do eat a lot and i workout on a regular bases but its not doing anything for me

 

[ROID]

I can't condemn someone for wanting to use gear when they are 150lbs but I can say that just from reading your post that you have no clue about what you are getting into.

After about 3 months of reading you might be able to put together a question that won't get you flamed. Check out the training and nutrition forums as well. You probably know a lot less about eating and training than you think.

 

[ROID]

im 19. so ok yall say forget the steriods completely in my case. so what can i do to achieve what i was wanting. i do eat a lot and i workout on a regular bases but its not doing anything for me

Definitely check out the training and nutrition forums because that is where you problem is.

 

[jaredp]

ok thanks

 

[VictorZ06]

Roid is right. Don't touch any of these compounds....you have a lot to learn. No such thing as a real AAS cycle without test. I would keep clear of anabolics if I were you. You are too young to begin with, and you are planning on using these compounds the wrong way. Not what you want to hear, I know. But it's the truth. Sorry.



/V

 

[D-Lats]

I know how this guy feels cause I was him 10 yrs ago and I thought I was eating like a pro and training hard, then I met some real bbers and realized I wasn't doing either. I started juicing early too but I had some guys that showed me the ropes and I have no regrets but this guy doesn't have a clue what he is doing. Put in the time learning then make a smart choice.

 

[Glycomann]

jared you are very young and tall. You ahve a lot of natural filling out to do. Keep training hard. You just finished gaining a lot of height. Your body just expended a lot of energy to gain all that mass in the past few years. Now your job is to fill that frame out. Concentrate on compound movements in the gym. They will activate your endocrine system and prime you for new muscle growth. Stick to Bench press, squats, dead lifts, military presses, barbell curls and bent rows. Those are the power houses for building mass. Eat plenty of protein like 4 times a day you should eat enough protein to make up 50 grams each meal. Also add a whey shake before bed.

 

[Roughneck_91]

I know how this guy feels cause I was him 10 yrs ago and I thought I was eating like a pro and training hard, then I met some real bbers and realized I wasn't doing either. I started juicing early too but I had some guys that showed me the ropes and I have no regrets but this guy doesn't have a clue what he is doing. Put in the time learning then make a smart choice.

Same here. I started gearing at 18, wish I could take every shot back... but whats done is done.

So you see Jared, we aren't just feeding you "high and mighty" bullshit. We are just looking out for you.

Set a realistic goal for 2 years (ie. 180 @ 10% bodyfat) work your ass off to get there (meanwhile learning all you can about training, nutrition and AAS) and when your there, juice up.

Hell, if I could, I would do your first shot for ya

 

[SloppyJ]

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Hell, if I could, I would do your first shot for ya

When the time comes. I bet he takes you up on that. The first one is crazy scary.

 

[MDR]

Roid is right. Don't touch any of these compounds....you have a lot to learn. No such thing as a real AAS cycle without test. I would keep clear of anabolics if I were you. You are too young to begin with, and you are planning on using these compounds the wrong way. Not what you want to hear, I know. But it's the truth. Sorry.

Could not agree more. Focus on nutrition and training. You are not ready for anabolics.