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min0 lee said:
Move over and pass the popcorn, please!
RippedNYLifter
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Okay damn, I didn't think this would cause this much of a problem. Mods delete this thread please.
So are we not allowed to talk about DC?
RippedNYLifter said:
No.
RippedNYLifter said:
It's been my experience that once the word gets out at the local gyms, etc, on how a trainers program is set up, the personal trainer has to use savy tactics such as saying he has since added on to his training/diet methods to maintain his business.
P-funk said:I thought you said he stole his ideas on training from you? Now you are giving him props?
I was only giving him credit were credit is due. I'm not a hater.I just speak what's on my mind and move on.
One day I look for him to give me credit for my 22 inch guns.
I do not know with 100% accuracy if DOGCRAPP stole my training ideas. His rest-pause method resembles mine but he may have built his version upon Mike Mentzers ideas as I did. My rest-pause method was being developed back in the early 80's but was not perfected until the mid-late 80's. I'll let the listening audience be the judge as to whether or not DOGCRAPP stole my 11-15 rep range/rest pause.
I'll go back over to my sub-forum now and stay out of this DRAMA..However, I would like to say it's quite refreshing to see that Dogcrapp is not able to bully IronMagazine members as he has done on other sites..
Is it not possible for two, or more, people to have similar training theories? I dont see why not.
Its like guitarists, I hear similar licks all the time from different bands in different generes. There are only so many original ideas out there to be discovered.
Who invented the barbell or the dumbell curl? Should we say we are all haters and copycats because we dont know who to give credit to?
Frankly, who gives a shit. This is weightlifting and/or bodybuilding we are talking about, nobody is losing millions over this and nobodies ego should be shattered either. Just lift your damn weights and be happy, if someone else trains in a similar way WHO CARES.
Someone out there probably said someone stole his idea when he saw someone doing a squat, or a barbell pullover. Its damn ridiculous. I would hope we can live in a world where we can see the value in other peoples ideas without being called a thief.
Its like guitarists, I hear similar licks all the time from different bands in different generes. There are only so many original ideas out there to be discovered.
Who invented the barbell or the dumbell curl? Should we say we are all haters and copycats because we dont know who to give credit to?
Frankly, who gives a shit. This is weightlifting and/or bodybuilding we are talking about, nobody is losing millions over this and nobodies ego should be shattered either. Just lift your damn weights and be happy, if someone else trains in a similar way WHO CARES.
Someone out there probably said someone stole his idea when he saw someone doing a squat, or a barbell pullover. Its damn ridiculous. I would hope we can live in a world where we can see the value in other peoples ideas without being called a thief.
Mudge and I once made great music together, but when he decided to steal my idea to utilize dumbbells from time to time rather than just using a barbell all the time, we parted ways. We haven't talked since and, to this day, I wonder if I may live to regret this decision.
Your statements wouldn't hold water in Dante's eyes. He is demanding that Iron Man give hom credit for his training because they both use a Rest / Pause. Iron's rest / pause is a little different. It is for only the last set and only during the last 3 weeks of the program. Not only that it is to be done on anyone of the rep ranges as long as it's the last set. Also you only take 5 deep breaths and not 15.Mudge said:Is it not possible for two, or more, people to have similar training theories? I dont see why not.
Its like guitarists, I hear similar licks all the time from different bands in different generes. There are only so many original ideas out there to be discovered.
Who invented the barbell or the dumbell curl? Should we say we are all haters and copycats because we dont know who to give credit to?
Frankly, who gives a shit. This is weightlifting and/or bodybuilding we are talking about, nobody is losing millions over this and nobodies ego should be shattered either. Just lift your damn weights and be happy, if someone else trains in a similar way WHO CARES.
Someone out there probably said someone stole his idea when he saw someone doing a squat, or a barbell pullover. Its damn ridiculous. I would hope we can live in a world where we can see the value in other peoples ideas without being called a thief.
I'm just glad we have Robert here as our owner / administrator who also won't let someone come over here and tear down his site like they did to Pro muscle whether there popular or not.
Thanks Robert
Tough
Mudge said:
Don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining Mudge. P-funk may believe your web of lies, but the truth shall set you free. Repent, and thou shalt be saved.
RippedNYLifter
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Why don't you guys create a flaming forum for this stuff to get it out of your system? It seems like none of you can have a debate without flaming...
Uh oh...I just remembered...I talked about how I use rest-pause training in my last Iron Man magazine article on advanced P/RR/S training. Looks like we are going to have another new thread.........................
I don't understand what the hubub is all about. Most of the people coming up with "new" concepts are taking them from someone else's work anyway.
I invented weight lifting. I was lifting rocks so I could battle dinosaurs about 65 million years ago. I win. Thanks for playing.
IRON MAN said:It's been my experience that once the word gets out at the local gyms, etc, on how a trainers program is set up, the personal trainer has to use savy tactics such as saying he has since added on to his training/diet methods to maintain his business.
really? even when that guy has said all over the place that he is kind of getting burnt out on training people and is removing himself slowly from it? Yea thats a great marketing ploy
Looks like you need to give Dante credit for your training. Oh wait you no longer use rest pause. Your safe from the evil Dante.gopro said:Uh oh...I just remembered...I talked about how I use rest-pause training in my last Iron Man magazine article on advanced P/RR/S training. Looks like we are going to have another new thread.........................
Dante you come over here and act like you did at P/M and the members here will tear you up. Then you'll know and feel like Iron Man did at P/M when you had all your buddies attack him over there.
There's pro trainers here that are real popular with the members and are not going to take your Dogg Crapp.
I remember how you bragged on P/M about how you could come over get what you wanted cause they have been after you for an interview here. You want you interview, post your training up and answered some questions. Wait you don't want to do that cause you might have to answered them instead of ducking them. I just saw a post by a guy on your site that asked you what your measurements are now. You ducked the question with this answered. I can't answered that now because of an injury I had 3 months ago.
Remember the question I asked you. Dante do you feel if you would have done more bicep work, your biceps might have grown more. You ducked it by deleting the post.
See the trainers here answered all questions and don't duck them. There's the difference between you and a real trainer. They answered the question with an answered.
Your right I don't like you. Your conceded, egotistical and a arrogant Mofo who just looks for things to pick on people with. You want credit, give some to Iron Man and Gopro for there rest / pause you stole from them.
Tough
There's pro trainers here that are real popular with the members and are not going to take your Dogg Crapp.
I remember how you bragged on P/M about how you could come over get what you wanted cause they have been after you for an interview here. You want you interview, post your training up and answered some questions. Wait you don't want to do that cause you might have to answered them instead of ducking them. I just saw a post by a guy on your site that asked you what your measurements are now. You ducked the question with this answered. I can't answered that now because of an injury I had 3 months ago.
Remember the question I asked you. Dante do you feel if you would have done more bicep work, your biceps might have grown more. You ducked it by deleting the post.
See the trainers here answered all questions and don't duck them. There's the difference between you and a real trainer. They answered the question with an answered.
Your right I don't like you. Your conceded, egotistical and a arrogant Mofo who just looks for things to pick on people with. You want credit, give some to Iron Man and Gopro for there rest / pause you stole from them.
Tough
I was only giving him credit were credit is due. I'm not a hater.I just speak what's on my mind and move on.
I do not know with 100% accuracy if DOGCRAPP stole my training ideas. His rest-pause method resembles mine but he may have built his version upon Mike Mentzers ideas as I did. My rest-pause method was being developed back in the early 80's but was not perfected until the mid-late 80's. I'll let the listening audience be the judge as to whether or not DOGCRAPP stole my 11-15 rep range/rest pause.
LOLOL-here is my prior statement to you in this thread "There are things as stated previously(between him and I) that he knows I dont understand or agree with, maybe with time we will iron them out....in fact that would make me much happier"......but no problem if you want to take the low road in all this Im fine with that. Your the ultimate backtracker. Well my rest pause theories are actually in print in the early 90's thru Hardcore Muscle so you can go and say "well I invented pop tarts" for all I care, it just follows up your reputation as a con/bullshit artist. Its so convenient when people come around with "well I was doing that 5, 10, 15 years ago" after the fact. How convenient it is that rest pause training has always been (to everyone) a set of 6 singles (ala mentzer), UNIVERSALLY. Yet you for some weird unexplained reason you came up with rest pausing in the 11-15 range with 3 failure points like myself back in the 80's--LOL. Maybe you actually dont borrow from others because Ive always have made it a point to cite others in articles (that Ive borrowed from), yet you say you came up with it all yourself (you and only you)
a)you've said you train ronnie coleman to many people and got your ass handed to you there as a bullshitter. You've said you train top pros and amateurs, yet for some reason its all hush hush top secret (again absolutely crap)
b)you copy other peoples material continually (Iron Addicts, Phils, Mine, and Arthur L Rea) and call it your own, and you know what, Im fine with that but when you blatantly copy something verbatim and then turn around and say its all your own idea and you never read the guy before--you kind of look bad in alot of peoples eyes.
c)a person well known on the boards pmed you something about a outline he did recently, supplement wise. You took that outline and answered someone elses question on a board verbatim with it and didnt even give the guy who PMed you credit. How absolutely pathetic is that?
d)everyone and their brother know your MR biceps but for some reason you cant tell people the truth about that either
http://premiermuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5567
e)you know what the sad part is all this is? You have some novel ideas that are all your own that could be usefull to the masses. The problem is your morals/values as a person in all this are incredibly dissapointing. I know what you so definitively seek. To be recognized. To be followed. To have a legion of people who believe in what you say. And you know what you probably could of done that on the merits of your OWN work without all the bullshitting--thats what is sad.
Hey everyone at least you got one trainer on this board who is a standup individual and doesnt bullshit his ass off so people will follow him, and his reputation is absolutely outstanding--BodyFX
I'll go back over to my sub-forum now and stay out of this DRAMA..However, I would like to say it's quite refreshing to see that Dogcrapp is not able to bully IronMagazine members as he has done on other sites..
Other sites? I have absolutely no power at all at pro muscle--zero! I dont know Big A in the least and to be honest I dont think he likes me very much as he and I have similiar businesses. The problem of what happened over there is you tried to lie to one to many people Ironman. You cannot come online and tell knowledgeable people in this sport that you train the Mr Olympia without people checking up on you. The board owner checked you out and found out that you were fabricating things. So does he keep you on his board? Or does he remove you? He chose to remove you. Had absolutely nothing to do with me.
did you bring enough for all of us?min0 lee said:
The13ig13adWolf said:
I don't think so.
well go pop some more biatch....i'm just catching upmin0 lee said:I don't think so.
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