petrainer said:I love how the #1 promoter of Ironmans training is a 50 year old "enhanced" lifter who displays pictures of himself that show zero muscular development.
hey, I know you.

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petrainer said:I love how the #1 promoter of Ironmans training is a 50 year old "enhanced" lifter who displays pictures of himself that show zero muscular development.
P-funk said:hey, I know you.![]()
P-funk said:We all know there is only one online perosnal traininer...his name is DALE MABRY!!!
Dale Mabry said:I wouldn't begin to know what a perosnal is, let alone be able to train one.![]()
True story, back in the 80's I used several of Vince Gironda's training programs.....and most were 20 +years old alreadypetrainer said:Both workouts were stolen from Leo Costa Jr. He stole his shit from the Bulgarians. The Bulgarians apparently stole their shit from Vince Gironda.
What's your problem jackass. I hadn't lifted in over 20 years until about a year and a half ago. theni double tear a left elbow tendon and then the left rotaor cuff. So i'm nothing special, but I'm not going to stop until i get to where i want to be.petrainer said:I love how the #1 promoter of Ironmans training is a 50 year old "enhanced" lifter who displays pictures of himself that show zero muscular development.
Well maybe you have my luck and break your shoulder when you 35. See I was never suppose to lift again. But about 18 months ago i figured if i didn't get off my ass and start training that I would die shortly. So sometimes it takes thing to make you see the big picture.petrainer said:Yeah I will be. I started training when I was 15. I'm 33. Ive never stopped.
Tough Old Man said:Why don't you post a pic of you and maybe I can tear your's down. Deal Lad. Otherwise let things be unless you want a war on your hands.
petrainer said:Its the only pic in my gallery.
I can post some of me today, not in contest shape at 250, natural... If you like.
Really I'm not interested. But I will say this. If you think it's easy putting on muscle after the age of 50, then you need to regroup. I didn't start this until i was already 51 and it's been a tough going. But i've hung in there.petrainer said:Its the only pic in my gallery.
I can post some of me today, not in contest shape at 250, natural... If you like.
What would you know frank?min0 lee said:This thread must has brought alot of attention from other forums, and rightfully so.
But it's funny how grown men bitch as much as women do though.![]()
Tough Old Man said:What would you know frank?..But old toughy still wants you.
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Tough Old Man said:What's your problem jackass. I hadn't lifted in over 20 years until about a year and a half ago. theni double tear a left elbow tendon and then the left rotaor cuff. So i'm nothing special, but I'm not going to stop until i get to where i want to be.
I set around mexico for 11 years drinking beer and got real fat, way over 300 lbs. In the pic's below I'm down to 223 lbs and still doing my best to lift even with all the injuries. How about you zit face. Will you still be training when your in you fifty's.
I'm also a lot bigger now 3 months later then in the below pic.
Yeah but Leo Costa Jr gave plenty of credit to the Bulgarian's throughout his "Big Beyond Belief" series.petrainer said:Both workouts were stolen from Leo Costa Jr. He stole his shit from the Bulgarians. The Bulgarians apparently stole their shit from Vince Gironda.
IRON MAN said:I agree whole heartly with moderator P-FUNK. Every training style under the sun was built upon others methods. The IRON MAN "HIT" was built off of various training principles that I put together. The SLINGSHOT method was the only part I devised all by my lonesome and I'm sure I was not the first to discover this techinque.
But DOGCRAPP believes he was the originator of his routine WITH NO HELP FROM OTHERS???![]()
. So- http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=60710
Only when you bashed iron man. If you bash him again, then you leave me no choice but to thrash you. You want peace, don't bash iron's training until you have put in 6 months of it. then you can bash it all you want.soxmuscle said:Tough ridiculed my body, my knowledge, and the way i train. Are you calling Tom ignorant!?
That is the best thing you said this entire threadTough Old Man said:I only made one mistake here and that was bashing Dante. I shouldn't have done that as he never done anything to me which I may have not deserved. This is between Dante and Iron Man and I will no longer get involved in there dispute.
soxmuscle said:i never bashed iron man's training. i bashed his spelling and grammar or lack thereof.
dante has held himself to perfection in this thread. iron man has not. again, i'm not picking sides, thats ( that's ) just what i see from reading this thread to its entirety.
soxmuscle said:i never bashed iron man's training. i bashed his spelling and grammar or lack thereof.
dante has held himself to perfection in this thread. iron man has not. again, i'm not picking sides, thats just what i see from reading this thread to its entirety.
min0 lee said:I see no winners here so far but what I do see is Ironman donating his knowledge and time here free of charge.
What does Dante have to offer Ironmagazine?
True story, Dante is a big homo.P-funk said:nothing...he is a selfish scum bag piece of shit.
three cheers for ironman!