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thats hot.
The13ig13adWolf said:
How do you think P-funk lubed it up.
Part of my critque
This will take awhile to post all of this so please don't post until I give the okay. I probably won't be able to put up all this info up tonight so be patient. Lets get to it by starting off with the DC MANUAL
DC TRAINING MANUAL
Introduction to Philosophy:
Yay!! can't wait to jump right in!
A typical workout for the masses is (lets use chest for an example) doing a body part once every 7 days (once a week)and sometimes even once every 9 days or more. This concept came to the front due to recovery reasoning and I agree with most typical workouts your going to need a great deal of recovery. Here???s the problem---lets say you train chest once a week for a year and you hypothetically gain 1/64 of an inch in pectoral thickness from each workout. At the end of the year you should be at 52/64 (or 13/16). Almost an inch of thickness (pretty good). To build muscle we are trying to lift at a high enough intensity and load to grow muscle but with enough recovery so the muscle remodels and grows. The problem is everyone is loading up on the volume end of training and its taking away from the recovery part of it. You can train in a way so you can train chest 3 times every nine days and you will recover and grow faster than ever. If you train chest 3 times in 9 days you are now doing chest roughly 136 times a year! So instead of 52 growth phases you are now getting 136 growth phases a year. I personally would rather grow 136 times a year than 52. At a hypothetical 1/64th of an inch per workout you are now at 136/64 (or roughly 2.1 inches of thickness). So now your growing at roughly 2 and a half times as fast as normal people who are doing modern day workouts are. Most people train chest with 3 to 4 exercises and wait the 7-9 days to recover and that is one growth phase. I use the same 3 to 4 exercises but do chest 3 times during those 9 days and get 3 growth phases. Everyone knows a muscle either contracts or doesn???t--you cannot isolate a certain part of it (you can get into positions that present better mechanical advantages though that put a focus on certain deep muscle fibers)--for example incline presses vs. flat presses. One huge mistake beginning bodybuilders make is they have a "must" principle instilled in them. They feel they "must" do this exercise and that exercise and this many sets or they won???t grow.
absolutley fucking genious!! I can't believe you actually thought of this yourself.
Base Program:
How I set bodybuilders workouts up is I have them pick either their 3 favorite exercises for each body part or better yet the exercises they feel will bring up their weaknesses the most. For me my chest exercises are high incline smythe machine press, hammer seated flat press and slight incline smythe press with hands very very wide----this is because I look at my physique and I feel my problem area is upper and outer pecs---that is my focus. Whenever I train someone new I have them do the following --4 times training in 8 days---with straight sets. Sometimes with rest pause sets but we have to gauge the recovery ability first.
wow! No fcking way! train 4 times in 8 days! A true revolutionary.....better get to work on those upper and outer pecs.
Day one would be Monday and would be:
Chest
Shoulders
Triceps
Back width
Back thickness
Day two would be Wednesday and would be:
Biceps
Forearms
Calves
Hamstrings
Quads
Day three would be Friday and would be:
Chest
Shoulders
Triceps
Back width
Back thickness
(Sat+sun off)
Day four would be the following Monday and would be
Biceps
Forearms
Calves
Hamstrings
Quads
gotta make sure you give those bi's and tri's proper treatment. Better work them before legs...your largest muscles in your body you stupid fuck.
And so on Wednesday Friday Monday Wednesday etc.
Stay with me here--
I'm tryin' to stay with you but your writing really fucking sucks and you are stupid so far.
Stay with me here--You???re only doing one exercise per muscle group per day. Your doing your first favorite exercise for chest on day one--your doing your second favorite exercise for chest on the next chest workout and your third exercise for chest on the next. You???re hitting every body part twice in 8 days. The volume on everything is simply as many warm-up sets as you need to do- to be ready for your ONE work set.
No way!! High intensity training!! I can't believe you were the one that invented that! Better tell arthur jones....phew, glad we cleared that up.
The volume on everything is simply as many warm-up sets as you need to do- to be ready for your ONE work set. That can be two warm-up sets for a small muscle group or five warm-up sets for a large muscle group on heavy exercise like rack deadlifts. The ONE work set is either a straight set or a rest pause set (depending on your recovery abilities again). For people on the lowest scale of recovery its just that one straight set---next up is a straight set with statics for people with slightly better than that recovery----next up is rest pausing (on many of the of movements) with statics for people with middle of the road recovery on up. Three key exercises are picked for each body part (hypothetically we will use flat dumbell bench press, incline smythe bench press, and hammer press) ---USING ONLY ONE OF THOSE EXERCISES PER WORKOUT you rotate these in order and take that exercise to it's ultimate strength limit (where at that point you change the exercise and get brutally strong on that new movement too). That can happen in 4 weeks or that can happen 2 years later but it will happen some time (You cannot continually gain strength to where you eventually bench pressing 905 for reps obviously)---Sometime later when you come back to that original exercise you will start slightly lower than your previous high and then soar past it without fail--- As you progress as a bodybuilder you need to take even more rest time and recovery time. READ THAT AGAIN PLEASE: AS YOU PROGRESS AS A BODYBUILDER IN SIZE AND STRENGTH YOU NEED TO TAKE EVEN MORE REST AND RECOVERY TIME. Example: My recovery ability is probably slightly better now than when I started lifting 13-14 years ago but only slightly...but back then I was benching 135lbs and squatting 155lbs in my first months of lifting. Now I am far and away the strongest person in my gym using poundages three to six times greater than when I first started lifting. With my recovery ability being what it is both then and now do you think I need more time to recover from a 155lb squat for 8reps or a 500lb squat for 8reps? Obviously the answer is NOW! This past year I have been really pounding the slag iron as heavy and hard as I can in preparation of trying to get onstage at about 252lbs early next year. That means a hard 300lbs to me off-season and I???m pretty damn close to that right now. The gains I have made in strength this past year even at my lifting level are nothing short of phenomenal (in my mind). With those strength gains comes the ratio of recovery factor. Whereas a year ago I was training 2 on one off 2 on one off and getting away with it with extreme stretching etc....about 2 months ago I took an extra day off on the weekend because of work obligations and I just started to feel somewhat tired because of how heavy my weights were. If my strength keeps progressing at this level I am eventually going to have to train Monday Wednesday Friday Monday Wednesday Friday like outlined above simply because I am reaching poundages that are so far and away above my beginning weights-I have to take the necessary recovery precautions. I am still training as often as I possibly can per body part--that???s key to me. The more times I can train a body part in a year???s time and recover will mean the fastest growth possible! I???ve done the training a body part every 10 days system in the past and while recovering from that--the gains were so slow over time I got frustrated and realized the frequency of growth phases(for me)was to low. I want to gain 104 times a year instead of 52--the fastest rate that I can accumulate muscle (YET AGAIN WITHIN ONES RECOVERY ABILITY-I CANT SAY THAT ENOUGH)
wow, rest pause!! static contractions!! Fuck me...are you Joe Weider...Oh no no...I get it...you are the guy that taugh Joe Weider!!!
In the past 4-5 years that I have been slowly changing my philosophies of training I???ve been gaining so fast the last couple of years it???s been pretty amazing.
phew...good thing you have been changing your philosohies. otherwise people would catch on that you are ripping people off and calling things YOUR philosophies...oh waite....busted...haha.
Alternate Programs:
MON TUES THURS FRI- For people who have (above normal) recovery ability (hitting body parts twice in that time-or twice in 7 days)
MON WEN FRI MON- For pretty much the norm of society with average recovery ability--hitting body parts twice every 8 days
MON TUES THUR FRI- With body split into three parts-for people with hectic schedules these are extremely short workouts yet stay roughly in the same scheme as the above.
On this schedule someone would group body parts like the following:
pretty smart! so let me get this...if I recover well i can go 4 times a week. if not only three? great...got it....glad you cleared that up. i am so happy that you came up with this genious program. you are good shit doggshit.
DAY ONE:
Chest
Shoulders
Triceps
(Stretches)
DAY TWO:
Biceps
Forearms
(Stretches)
Back width
Back thickness
DAY THREE:
Calves
Hamstrings
Quads
(Stretches)
and switching to push/pull/legs....never hear of that one before!!
This will take awhile to post all of this so please don't post until I give the okay. I probably won't be able to put up all this info up tonight so be patient. Lets get to it by starting off with the DC MANUAL
DC TRAINING MANUAL
Introduction to Philosophy:
Yay!! can't wait to jump right in!
A typical workout for the masses is (lets use chest for an example) doing a body part once every 7 days (once a week)and sometimes even once every 9 days or more. This concept came to the front due to recovery reasoning and I agree with most typical workouts your going to need a great deal of recovery. Here???s the problem---lets say you train chest once a week for a year and you hypothetically gain 1/64 of an inch in pectoral thickness from each workout. At the end of the year you should be at 52/64 (or 13/16). Almost an inch of thickness (pretty good). To build muscle we are trying to lift at a high enough intensity and load to grow muscle but with enough recovery so the muscle remodels and grows. The problem is everyone is loading up on the volume end of training and its taking away from the recovery part of it. You can train in a way so you can train chest 3 times every nine days and you will recover and grow faster than ever. If you train chest 3 times in 9 days you are now doing chest roughly 136 times a year! So instead of 52 growth phases you are now getting 136 growth phases a year. I personally would rather grow 136 times a year than 52. At a hypothetical 1/64th of an inch per workout you are now at 136/64 (or roughly 2.1 inches of thickness). So now your growing at roughly 2 and a half times as fast as normal people who are doing modern day workouts are. Most people train chest with 3 to 4 exercises and wait the 7-9 days to recover and that is one growth phase. I use the same 3 to 4 exercises but do chest 3 times during those 9 days and get 3 growth phases. Everyone knows a muscle either contracts or doesn???t--you cannot isolate a certain part of it (you can get into positions that present better mechanical advantages though that put a focus on certain deep muscle fibers)--for example incline presses vs. flat presses. One huge mistake beginning bodybuilders make is they have a "must" principle instilled in them. They feel they "must" do this exercise and that exercise and this many sets or they won???t grow.
absolutley fucking genious!! I can't believe you actually thought of this yourself.
Base Program:
How I set bodybuilders workouts up is I have them pick either their 3 favorite exercises for each body part or better yet the exercises they feel will bring up their weaknesses the most. For me my chest exercises are high incline smythe machine press, hammer seated flat press and slight incline smythe press with hands very very wide----this is because I look at my physique and I feel my problem area is upper and outer pecs---that is my focus. Whenever I train someone new I have them do the following --4 times training in 8 days---with straight sets. Sometimes with rest pause sets but we have to gauge the recovery ability first.
wow! No fcking way! train 4 times in 8 days! A true revolutionary.....better get to work on those upper and outer pecs.
Day one would be Monday and would be:
Chest
Shoulders
Triceps
Back width
Back thickness
Day two would be Wednesday and would be:
Biceps
Forearms
Calves
Hamstrings
Quads
Day three would be Friday and would be:
Chest
Shoulders
Triceps
Back width
Back thickness
(Sat+sun off)
Day four would be the following Monday and would be
Biceps
Forearms
Calves
Hamstrings
Quads
gotta make sure you give those bi's and tri's proper treatment. Better work them before legs...your largest muscles in your body you stupid fuck.
And so on Wednesday Friday Monday Wednesday etc.
Stay with me here--
I'm tryin' to stay with you but your writing really fucking sucks and you are stupid so far.
Stay with me here--You???re only doing one exercise per muscle group per day. Your doing your first favorite exercise for chest on day one--your doing your second favorite exercise for chest on the next chest workout and your third exercise for chest on the next. You???re hitting every body part twice in 8 days. The volume on everything is simply as many warm-up sets as you need to do- to be ready for your ONE work set.
No way!! High intensity training!! I can't believe you were the one that invented that! Better tell arthur jones....phew, glad we cleared that up.
The volume on everything is simply as many warm-up sets as you need to do- to be ready for your ONE work set. That can be two warm-up sets for a small muscle group or five warm-up sets for a large muscle group on heavy exercise like rack deadlifts. The ONE work set is either a straight set or a rest pause set (depending on your recovery abilities again). For people on the lowest scale of recovery its just that one straight set---next up is a straight set with statics for people with slightly better than that recovery----next up is rest pausing (on many of the of movements) with statics for people with middle of the road recovery on up. Three key exercises are picked for each body part (hypothetically we will use flat dumbell bench press, incline smythe bench press, and hammer press) ---USING ONLY ONE OF THOSE EXERCISES PER WORKOUT you rotate these in order and take that exercise to it's ultimate strength limit (where at that point you change the exercise and get brutally strong on that new movement too). That can happen in 4 weeks or that can happen 2 years later but it will happen some time (You cannot continually gain strength to where you eventually bench pressing 905 for reps obviously)---Sometime later when you come back to that original exercise you will start slightly lower than your previous high and then soar past it without fail--- As you progress as a bodybuilder you need to take even more rest time and recovery time. READ THAT AGAIN PLEASE: AS YOU PROGRESS AS A BODYBUILDER IN SIZE AND STRENGTH YOU NEED TO TAKE EVEN MORE REST AND RECOVERY TIME. Example: My recovery ability is probably slightly better now than when I started lifting 13-14 years ago but only slightly...but back then I was benching 135lbs and squatting 155lbs in my first months of lifting. Now I am far and away the strongest person in my gym using poundages three to six times greater than when I first started lifting. With my recovery ability being what it is both then and now do you think I need more time to recover from a 155lb squat for 8reps or a 500lb squat for 8reps? Obviously the answer is NOW! This past year I have been really pounding the slag iron as heavy and hard as I can in preparation of trying to get onstage at about 252lbs early next year. That means a hard 300lbs to me off-season and I???m pretty damn close to that right now. The gains I have made in strength this past year even at my lifting level are nothing short of phenomenal (in my mind). With those strength gains comes the ratio of recovery factor. Whereas a year ago I was training 2 on one off 2 on one off and getting away with it with extreme stretching etc....about 2 months ago I took an extra day off on the weekend because of work obligations and I just started to feel somewhat tired because of how heavy my weights were. If my strength keeps progressing at this level I am eventually going to have to train Monday Wednesday Friday Monday Wednesday Friday like outlined above simply because I am reaching poundages that are so far and away above my beginning weights-I have to take the necessary recovery precautions. I am still training as often as I possibly can per body part--that???s key to me. The more times I can train a body part in a year???s time and recover will mean the fastest growth possible! I???ve done the training a body part every 10 days system in the past and while recovering from that--the gains were so slow over time I got frustrated and realized the frequency of growth phases(for me)was to low. I want to gain 104 times a year instead of 52--the fastest rate that I can accumulate muscle (YET AGAIN WITHIN ONES RECOVERY ABILITY-I CANT SAY THAT ENOUGH)
wow, rest pause!! static contractions!! Fuck me...are you Joe Weider...Oh no no...I get it...you are the guy that taugh Joe Weider!!!
In the past 4-5 years that I have been slowly changing my philosophies of training I???ve been gaining so fast the last couple of years it???s been pretty amazing.
phew...good thing you have been changing your philosohies. otherwise people would catch on that you are ripping people off and calling things YOUR philosophies...oh waite....busted...haha.
Alternate Programs:
MON TUES THURS FRI- For people who have (above normal) recovery ability (hitting body parts twice in that time-or twice in 7 days)
MON WEN FRI MON- For pretty much the norm of society with average recovery ability--hitting body parts twice every 8 days
MON TUES THUR FRI- With body split into three parts-for people with hectic schedules these are extremely short workouts yet stay roughly in the same scheme as the above.
On this schedule someone would group body parts like the following:
pretty smart! so let me get this...if I recover well i can go 4 times a week. if not only three? great...got it....glad you cleared that up. i am so happy that you came up with this genious program. you are good shit doggshit.
DAY ONE:
Chest
Shoulders
Triceps
(Stretches)
DAY TWO:
Biceps
Forearms
(Stretches)
Back width
Back thickness
DAY THREE:
Calves
Hamstrings
Quads
(Stretches)
and switching to push/pull/legs....never hear of that one before!!
Do you mods even read my posts? Where the hell did I say I reinvented bodybuilding or weightlifting? Do you think anyone is going to come out with something from this point forward that hasnt been semi-done before? Nobody will. I put together what i felt worked best for people training/diet/ wise and some of them are my unique ideas alone and some or them are derived from longtime concepts (and I give credit continually to those). I never coined the term "DC training" or ever wanted to be part of some new initialed training concept. I didnt ever want to even train people. If you guys actually took the time to research things you would of found out how everything came about (simply word of mouth by other people, it spread from site to site to site and all over the place because it was working for people--simple as that) Why is it called Doggcrapp training when my name is Dante? Because I left a small post on a 50 member board one day with the anomynous name of Doggcrapp back in 2000. People on that board used my opinions, gained muscle mass and it spread by word of mouth. So fault that it didnt stay on that small board like I intended it to....Six years later thousands of posts others have put up, hundreds of pictures, pro's and top amateurs using it, I guess it works a little bit
P-funk said:
I have actually heard of this once before.
Do you realize what you just posted was from that first post 6 years ago on that small board--LOL--thats not a manual--thats actually a cut and paste that the owner of this board Joachim actually did from posts I wrote on boards and put it into a "DC training manual" that he hosted on this site. Never knew it was going to be thrown into book form.
Ive never made a DC manual.
Ive never made a DC manual.
DOGGCRAPP said:
whatever....I am sure your program has not changed that much since that.....
oh wait, let me guess...you added bosu ball and wobble board training!!
GET THE FUCK OUT YOU LAME MOTHER FUCKER.
P-funk said:
why am my 22 posts threatening your 17 thousand? This is how much you have a clue. Do you think that just maybe there might be 2 guys on this planet named Skip? Could it be at all possible?
Skip from Intensemuscle is from colorado
Skip Lacour is from california
Stephen Hawkins has nothing on you P-funk
Who is Stephen Hawkins?
Well looks like I'm not the only person around here that has taken up with Psycho Dad.P-funk said:no, your posts don't threaten anyone. you are stupid.
Since Iron Man And Dante has shown up Patrick you have been on a warpath. So something must be of a threat. You have dogged both of these guys to no end.
Go ahead hit me with both barrels.
PT
Robert DiMaggio said:
So Stephen Hawkins is related to Stephen Hawking? Must be on the mother's side.
Tough Old Man said:
I think it is the complete lack of a threat to be honest.
But, if either one wants to make a routine for someone too lazy to make their own, it saves me time so I am for it. I no longer respond to the threads titled "Make me a program" or "Want a challenge". It's tough love, going thru life ignorant is no way to live, neither is having something given to you. If you come up with something and it is wrong, I am more than happy to help, you gave it an effort and it shows that you have at least a little bit of knowledge and drive.
I need a beer to figure this one out. Also what you said earlier was one of the funnier one's I heard. Hit me so fast I think I'll be surrounded.Dale Mabry said:
Heard of the 3-6-9 treatment. This is what you'll get if you fuck with old toughy. Your going to need 3 Doctors, 6 nurses and 9 hours to remove my size 14 5E foot from your ass.
Toughy
The 3-6-9, not bad. Do you know the 8675309 treatment.
I haven't seen this much passion in a thread since the days of Johnnnnny...hey, who was it that outted him again?
As far as DC training or any other method goes, I'd much prefer to teach someone how to organize their own routine around their own inherent abilities, instead of just take one pre-made and apply it.
As far as DC training or any other method goes, I'd much prefer to teach someone how to organize their own routine around their own inherent abilities, instead of just take one pre-made and apply it.
topolo said:
I continue to have large volume ejaculate.
lol children
Hey what I said was true. Now in response to your comment "not sure about genius," but more like a genie. Hey you know my initials. (P)LENTY (T)ALENTED.P-funk said:
Tough
Well at least your doing your best to use your senses, but unfortunately they suck.phreak said:
you smell douche?phreak said:
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