Final thoughts on cycle anyone?

[LoveToLiftBig]

So here is what I'm going to run and I just wanted some final thoughts.

Prop should kick in quick enough then towards the end when the gains start to wear off bring in the tbol for an end cycle kick.

Cycle
Week 1-10 Test Prop @ 600mg per week pin eod at 1.5ml
Week 1-10 Arimidex + .5mg eod (to keep the bloat from the test down)
Week 6-10 Tbol @ 50mg per day


PCT
10-11 Clomid 75mg/ed
12 Clomid 50mg/ed

Sound good?

Second cycle btw.

 

[Usealittle]

if you can i would up the tbol to 80mg ed.....JMO. need to allow 4days before starting pct.

 

[Vibrant]

yeah, you may need to go higher than 50mg of tbol.

pct should be:

clomid 100/100/75/50
aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

 

[D-Lats]

Adex is potent i dont like running it that high dries my joints out. You might want to start every three days and go from there imo.

 

[exphys88]

Adex is potent i dont like running it that high dries my joints out. You might want to start every three days and go from there imo.

Interestingly, I think adex makes my joints hurt too. But I'm running that exact dose of prop and .5 eod of adex and it's spot on. I was running it Ed but joints were killing me.

Op, I like tbol at least 60 mg.

 

[tbird2]

1.5ml of prop eod is 525mg per week on average. also tbol should be run longer and higher(or switched for dbol)imo.

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

if you can i would up the tbol to 80mg ed.....JMO. need to allow 4days before starting pct.

Ok well i was going to get the 60 20mg tabs of biomex tbol and that would last exactly 4 weeks at a dosage of 50mg per day, then if I run it at a higher dose could I continue it with GP Tbol or will it make a difference?

yeah, you may need to go higher than 50mg of tbol.

pct should be:

clomid 100/100/75/50
aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Ok thanks will look into adding Aromasin, I got the PCT from the threads will the different cycle layouts.

Adex is potent i dont like running it that high dries my joints out. You might want to start every three days and go from there imo.

Ok so every 3 days then? So twice a week rather than 3.5 how does that sound?

Interestingly, I think adex makes my joints hurt too. But I'm running that exact dose of prop and .5 eod of adex and it's spot on. I was running it Ed but joints were killing me.

Op, I like tbol at least 60 mg.

Ok I'll dose it higher I had just read that tbol average dosage was 40/50mg and same question for you as UseALittle, can I mix Biomex Tbol with GP Tbol?

1.5ml of prop eod is 525mg per week on average. also tbol should be run longer and higher(or switched for dbol)imo.

Reason I don't want to run dbol again is i got serious bloat from it last time and wanted to run something a little leaner.

Thanks everyone for your responses

 

[BigBird]

Yep, it's been said already:

1) increase Tbol to a good 70-80mg if possible

2) space out the Adex to E3D at 0.5mg if joints start to ache

3) wait 3-5 days after completion of Tbol prior to starting PCT

4) PCT should ideally be ran for a 4 week period with more than just Clomid; either Aromasin or - if you can't get Aromasin - you can add Nolvadex as many do with good results. ("Vibrant" listed a good PCT protocol).

5) Consider running HCG during cycle in order to aid in quicker/easier recovery. Some will recommend running HCG during/throughout PCT as well.

 

[D-Lats]

My boy bigbird summed it up right there for you have fun bro!

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

Yep, it's been said already:

1) increase Tbol to a good 70-80mg if possible

2) space out the Adex to E3D at 0.5mg if joints start to ache

3) wait 3-5 days after completion of Tbol prior to starting PCT

4) PCT should ideally be ran for a 4 week period with more than just Clomid; either Aromasin or - if you can't get Aromasin - you can add Nolvadex as many do with good results. ("Vibrant" listed a good PCT protocol).

5) Consider running HCG during cycle in order to aid in quicker/easier recovery. Some will recommend running HCG during/throughout PCT as well.

And can I mix biomex labs tbol with GP tbol?

Thanks again

 

[Eford3]

How old are you?

 

[BigBird]

And can I mix biomex labs tbol with GP tbol?

Thanks again

If the products are what they claim they are then by all means, mixing labs is fine. That's like asking if you can substitute Minute Maid OJ for Tropicana. Of course, I can't validate Biomex Labs b/c I've never ran their compounds but I've had success w/ GP. In theory, Tbol is Tbol is Tbol. In theory, that is.

 

[GMO]

Yep, it's been said already:

1) increase Tbol to a good 70-80mg if possible

2) space out the Adex to E3D at 0.5mg if joints start to ache

3) wait 3-5 days after completion of Tbol prior to starting PCT

4) PCT should ideally be ran for a 4 week period with more than just Clomid; either Aromasin or - if you can't get Aromasin - you can add Nolvadex as many do with good results. ("Vibrant" listed a good PCT protocol).

5) Consider running HCG during cycle in order to aid in quicker/easier recovery. Some will recommend running HCG during/throughout PCT as well.

^^^This 100%

The only other suggestion I have for you is to run your Tbol for at least 6 weeks. I didn't even notice its effects until week 3.

 

[XYZ]

Interestingly, I think adex makes my joints hurt too. But I'm running that exact dose of prop and .5 eod of adex and it's spot on. I was running it Ed but joints were killing me.

Op, I like tbol at least 60 mg.

Estrogen is what makes them not hurt, so when you remove it guess what happens?

 

[CanadianStrength]

If the products are what they claim they are then by all means, mixing labs is fine. That's like asking if you can substitute Minute Maid OJ for Tropicana. Of course, I can't validate Biomex Labs b/c I've never ran their compounds but I've had success w/ GP. In theory, Tbol is Tbol is Tbol. In theory, that is.

I agree with bird here. If a product is worth using then mixing it won't matter. Sometimes adding a different brand can add to results because most company's use different powders so your body might absorb one better then the other.

 

[Caz Rad]

Estrogen is what makes them not hurt, so when you remove it guess what happens?

So when E2 levels run too low, that's what causes the joint pain? I've tried .5mg EOD and backed off to E3D, but still can't get it dialed in correctly. Need to experiment a little more to find my sweet spot I guess.