well john boy with this line of reasoning you have taken away mans ability for cognitave thought. we now have no responsibility for our actions because if all our thoughts originate with God then there is no right or wrong. no such thing as good and evil. now we can see how someone might rationalize sin, all you have to say is there is no such thing as sin and everything we do is fine. eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die. is that about it john boy? and before you go off on some ridiculous tangeant im not saying anything in relation to fisting. im not making a statement on it being a sin or not.