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I like quantifiable results....i feel like the recent weight gain was a positive as far as mass goes...but i do feel better lighter....and eventually i will learn how to hold onto the muscle while i drop some more fat....mirror is the most important thing....and i think i look better
 
Quantify by endurance, calipers, lifts, veins, dick length. Its tough to do. When I see the scale at 220 I instinctively eat more, it's weird.
 
I like quantifiable results....i feel like the recent weight gain was a positive as far as mass goes...but i do feel better lighter....and eventually i will learn how to hold onto the muscle while i drop some more fat....mirror is the most important thing....and i think i look better

No thinking about it, you do look a lot better!

And I bet you feel better too.
 
quantify by endurance, calipers, lifts, veins, dick length. Its tough to do. When i see the scale at 220 i instinctively eat more, it's weird.
i see new veins....starting to see them on the insides of my arms not just farms...delt veins...ripples...actual definition especially under tension while training....feels like i actually have arms now
 
i dont like smart phones....id never get anything done if i had one
id fiddle onit 24 7 with my internet addiction
wife refused to take pic:(
 
i dont like smart phones....id never get anything done if i had one
id fiddle onit 24 7 with my internet addiction
wife refused to take pic:(

I get a lot of shit from the wife due to me playing on the phone so i see your point.
 
I get a lot of shit from the wife due to me playing on the phone so i see your point.

Yep me too. I'd say 90% if my forum time is via smart phone. GF tells me to stop chatting with my faggot boyfriends :lol:
 
You hold a ton of fat in your lower back. You look obese in that shot.

Yeah there's been some slippage on your path to jerkedness KOS. Time to refocus and get back on track bro.
 
Yeah my lower back looks shitty
no doubt
front always looks better than back
fing hate handles
those things will def be the last to go
 
I know that i have slipped back into depressed eating with our finances in ruin and the shit that is my life right now....i appreciate the feedback...help to get me back on the path....
 
Yeah well can always rely on you for honest feedback so I'll do the same for you
 
I know its a hot topic here...but i was fasting before it was mentioned here by accident....thats when i got down to 232...i get so lethargic when i eat...really wanna go back to the fasting eating once or twice a day...i dont know if the fad is true and best for fat loss andmuscle gain...but i felt more energetic and was lighter that way
 
I'm a convert. It's been around for a while, so not technically a fad.

Check out leangains and the bulletproofexecutive. The later is what Sil uses, and I prefer. I think it could be the key for you leaning up and staying strong. I got a thread going over at ASF and I'll keep my log here updated with stuff.

PM me if you need any help but SIL is the guru. He is a little more unstructured thou which I found harder to start with.
 
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yeah...i seem to gain mass at will
i can even lose fat easily when i focus
but maintaining mass while dropping fat still isnt happening
 
Honest question. .. what came first the depression or weight gain. You think they are bedfellow? Depression cause fat gain or fat gain cause depression?
What ai do you take?
 
I'm a convert. It's been around for a while, so not technically a fad.

Check out leangains and the bulletproofexecutive. The later is what Sil uses, and I prefer. I think it could be the key for you leaning up and staying strong. I got a thread going over at ASF and I'll keep my log here updated with stuff.

PM me if you need any help but SIL is the guru. He is a little more unstructured thou which I found harder to start with.

Idk you seem to have something understood!
 
Honest question. .. what came first the depression or weight gain. You think they are bedfellow? Depression cause fat gain or fat gain cause depression?
What ai do you take?
alot of things have been out of sync for awhile
i over eat and get all bloaty when depressed
gone from 232 to 250...but also coincides with start of test eq




i only have nolva and clomid on hand
 
kind of alot of things going on at once
was down to 232....felt skinny
thought i was losing muscle and too much strength
since i have put on weight...waaaay stronger...see better shoulders and traps at the least....arms never fing grow
 
kind of alot of things going on at once
was down to 232....felt skinny
thought i was losing muscle and too much strength
since i have put on weight...waaaay stronger...see better shoulders and traps at the least....arms never fing grow

I don't always agree with you but i do respect you. You are always striving to make yourself better. That being said you have a serious case of body dismorphia. I know because i do as well. You and i are roughly the same height. You feel skinny at 230 and i feel overweight at 210. Im 190 right now. You are much younger and ( not trying to slight you at all but being honest) not very much stronger by your posted weight usage. I would say that if your happy with yourself then live with it. Its taken me along time to come to the realization that im the only one that notices the little things about myself i hate. I hope you dont take this the wrong way but focus on what youve done well some and use it to push yourself to what you want instead of negatives like your arms being small or what ever. I hope you see my point but flame away if need be.

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What do ur arms measure at? They look around 18 or 18-1/2
 
you still working those crazy hours
 
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