Gun Ban sunsets!

[ZECH]

http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegislation/Read.aspx?ID=1235

 

[ZECH]

Santa ALBOB, I would like a Colt AR15 for Christmas!

 

[Var]

 

[Vieope]

Is it possible to buy any type of weapon at America now? Here almost nobody can have a weapon.

 

[tomas101]

wtf the fuk does someone need with a ak47 anyways??

 

[maniclion]

Is it possible to buy any type of weapon at America now? Here almost nobody can have a weapon.

What do you cut you food with?

 

[pmech]

wtf the fuk does someone need with a ak47 anyways??

Duck hunting

 

[Var]

wtf the fuk does someone need with a ak47 anyways??

Whether I technically "need" it or not is completely irrelevent. If we were only allowed to have things we "needed", life would be pretty boring. There's no harm at all in a law abiding citizen taking an AK-47 to the range and shooting up targets. Its been proven time and time again that gun laws only effect THOSE WHO OBEY LAWS.

 

[Var]

Is it possible to buy any type of weapon at America now? Here almost nobody can have a weapon.

Fully automatic weapons are not legal in the US.

 

[redspy]

Here almost nobody can have a weapon.

Except the criminals, right?

 

[redspy]

.....Yet, despite the rhetoric, there is not a single published academic study showing that the ban has reduced any type of violent crime. Even research funded by the Justice Department under the Clinton administration concluded only that the ban's effect on gun violence "has been uncertain." When those same authors released their updated report in August looking at crime data up through 2000 -the first six full years of the law -they stated, "We cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation's recent drop in gun violence."

The reason for these findings is simple: There is nothing unique about the guns that are banned under the law. Though the phrase "assault weapon" conjures up images of the rapid-fire machine guns used by the military, in fact the weapons covered by the ban function the same as any semiautomatic hunting rifle; they fire the exact same bullets with the same rapidity and produce the exact same damage as hunting rifles.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040912/REPOSITORY/409120359/1037/NEWS04

 

[Vieope]

Except the criminals, right?

Exactly. That is why I find it stupid. Other funny thing we are doing is that "give it away the gun to the government thing" to reduce violence. Like the criminal is going there. Stupid society.

 

[Chain Link]

W00ties! I just logged on to post this thread Dont buy Colt though, The owner is a greedy jew(No, literally) who would just as soon promote a bigger ban for his own reasons.. Plus Colt is overpriced, go Bushmaster, Armalite, DMPS ect, But reguardless, Its an awesome thing to watch die. My birthday is in 10 days, I may give myself a cash present, and wait for price gouging to go down, once Post-Post-Ban rifles to get into production.

Vieope, The ban did not ban but a few weapons, mainly semi-automatic pistols under the design of submachine guns(Like the mp5 ect). The ban's intention was to ban every military-like firearm available, but if they had just named firearms to be banned, then companies would have made different-yet similar firearms to go around the law(Kinda like SUVs). Also, these firearms were no more lethal than non-military like semi-automatic firearms, which all remained legal.
So what these genouses did, was name features common on these weapons.. Well, none of these features had any effect on lethality.
So the gun companies just removed the features, some of which, were already banned(Like grenade launchers) and just thrown in for shock effect. The main reason the ban was passed was because it wwas percieved by the gun-ignorant public as a ban on automatic weapons. Even myself, before I became interested in buying an M4 style rifle, thought the AWBan banned automatic weapons.. after all, real assault rifles were equipped with full-auto. Thats what made them suitable for.. assaults. But by DiFi's definitions, I guess even muzzle loaded 1 shot rifles are assault rifles, since they used them for assaults 300 years ago.
In any case, the dying of this law makes no difference for anybody except gun collectors. Well, and the brady campaign. To my understanding there will be a full page ad in newspapers across the US today, or very soon that.. well, here you look at it.. rofl. http://www2.stopthenra.com/ads/view/?ad=osama

As you can see... "Rapid fire" "Commit mass murder in seconds" I dont know why people percieved this as a ban on automatic weapons.. After all, they did show pictures of the fguns being banned before the law was passed 10 years ago, and those guns only LOOK like automatic weapons.

 

[redspy]

...The owner is a greedy jew(No, literally) who would just as soon promote a bigger ban for his own reasons..

It is really necessary to point out his ethnicity in this way?

 

[Chain Link]

It is really necessary to point out his ethnicity in this way?

I just found it funny, because of the stereotype, and the fact that he really is(I do consider it as mere coincidense). It wasnt intended as anti-semetic.

Donald Zilkha is from the richest jewish family in the US, owns oil overseas, is trying to screw the labor unions in conneticut by splitting the company, and has openly admitted his intention to own 85% of the firearms manufacturers in the world(The rest owned by china and some other group) Hes already bought SACO defense, and has tried to get remington, HK, FN(I believe)m, smith and wesson, I cant remember the rest of the names, but most everyone out there. I really dont like the guy, lol.

 

[Var]

It is really necessary to point out his ethnicity in this way?

Yeah really! Last thing we need is to reinforce the stereotype that gun owners are redneck bigots!

 

[redspy]

I just found it funny, because of the stereotype, and the fact that he really is(I do consider it as mere coincidense). It wasnt intended as anti-semetic.

I know what you're saying, I didn't think you were being deliberately mean. I'm not Jewish, but I have a few friends who are that get upset by these type of off the cuff remarks.

Anyway, do you stear clear of S&W firearms too?

 

[Chain Link]

I know what you're saying, I didn't think you were being deliberately mean. I'm not Jewish, but I have a few friends who are that get upset by these type of off the cuff remarks.

Anyway, do you stear clear of S&W firearms too?

I think the only thing from S&W thats ever interested me was their ammunition, because the H&K USP comes in 9x19NATO, .40S&W, and .45(ACP?), but the .45 has a slightly different design, and I like the design that the 9 and .40 have. 9mm is known for its low stopping power; its great if you're on top of things, but if someone is close enough to smell their breath, then you just need a big bullet to spread, cuz it would probably end up in their gut, lol. So that .025 caliber difference in size for the same gun is a bit appealing, but 9mm is so incredibly common.. Im 20 this month, so I still have a year to debate which Id perfer.. I dont think Ill ever need to use a firearm, but if a situation ever comes up, theres alot to lose.
hmmm.. Sorry
Aside from that, S&W has never offered anything of interest to me, So I really know nothing about the company. I can avoid Colt, because so many other companies make their rifles. I do like their m1991a1 series, but if I wanted a big pistol(an accurate .45) Beretta's M92F is basically the same gun, and beat colt in accuracy(I believe that was the reason, correct me if Im wrong) which won them our military conract.

 

[gr81]

just so you all know, we are all going to hell.. I hope we all feel good about that

 

[ALBOB]

Santa ALBOB, I would like a Colt AR15 for Christmas!

HBAR? Sporter? Retractable stock? Come on little boy, be more specific.

P.S. You gotta come out here and pick it up yourself.

 

[Chain Link]

Muahahahaahaha.
EDIT: This is too cute..

 

[Chain Link]

lol, Ive been waiting for someone to post,"Now thats just wrong" Is it going to happen or what? rofl

 

[redspy]

I prefer this one...

 

[Chain Link]

I prefer this one...

[PUN]The second from the left looks like a natural.[/PUN]
As I look at this picture I realize the only part of a woman(In decent shape) that I find physically attractive is the face. Its weird.. Perhaps Ive just seen so many women nude that its not attractive anymore (In porn )

 

[PreMier]

Damn, I have a gun they can play with.. I bet it could even shoot their eye out

 

[LAM]

wtf the fuk does someone need with a ak47 anyways??

Home protection !

plus they are a hell of a lot of fun to shoot...

 

[LAM]

Aside from that, S&W has never offered anything of interest to me, So I really know nothing about the company. I can avoid Colt, because so many other companies make their rifles. I do like their m1991a1 series, but if I wanted a big pistol(an accurate .45) Beretta's M92F is basically the same gun, and beat colt in accuracy(I believe that was the reason, correct me if Im wrong) which won them our military conract.

Beretta was hurting for sales in the late 80's and early 90's. I'm pretty sure they were giving the gov a very good deal on the 92F's also...

 

[Chain Link]

Beretta was hurting for sales in the late 80's and early 90's. I'm pretty sure they were giving the gov a very good deal on the 92F's also...

Very likely, if a few of our soldiers dying can save the government a few hundred thousand they suddenly become expendable. Also, I heard that beretta won in accuracy by VERY little; I just wanted to point out that by not buying Colt, I would not be settling for less. I would probably buy Colt if they had the better gun at a better deal, I just,"avoid" them.

 

[pu239]

I'll take another AR too Santa. The AR I have now I put together from a kit with a Bushie lower. I think my first sunset gun is going to be an AK. I've wanted one for a while, but never bought one. A group of guys is going to do a build and I think I'm going to join in on the fun. What I'm more excited about, however, is getting a can for my H&K USP Tactical. That's what I really want.

Hey Var, you actually can own machine guns. You have to live in a state that doesn't outlaw them, get a (usually) law enforcement signature, pay a $200 tax to the BATF, and then wait for your paperwork to come back. It's the same process for suppressors. The 1934 National Firearms Act is what you have to follow. In 1986 a law was passed prohibiting the sale of newly manufactured machine guns to civilians. An M-16 would cost someone like me somewhere between (I think) $10-15,000. A friend of mine has two of them, both with suppressors.

 

[Chain Link]

I'll take another AR too Santa. The AR I have now I put together from a kit with a Bushie lower. I think my first sunset gun is going to be an AK. I've wanted one for a while, but never bought one. A group of guys is going to do a build and I think I'm going to join in on the fun. What I'm more excited about, however, is getting a can for my H&K USP Tactical. That's what I really want.

Hey Var, you actually can own machine guns. You have to live in a state that doesn't outlaw them, get a (usually) law enforcement signature, pay a $200 tax to the BATF, and then wait for your paperwork to come back. It's the same process for suppressors. The 1934 National Firearms Act is what you have to follow. In 1986 a law was passed prohibiting the sale of newly manufactured machine guns to civilians. An M-16 would cost someone like me somewhere between (I think) $10-15,000. A friend of mine has two of them, both with suppressors.

The price tag alone outlaws most Americans from owning them. More importantly, it keeps ALL thugs and gangmembers from owning them. Organized crime would be a problem, but those guys work in the shadows, and whitehousegrin these days, so we dont see much of them shooting things up. And a terrorist would have a hard time aquiring them legally unless they've gained citizenship.

Illegally is another story. In 15 minutes with $5 in materials you can make a lightning link for your AR-15 and make it full auto; installs in seconds. I had the plans on my computer before I reformatted, lost them now Hard to use unless you own ALOT of land. Automatic fire is very easy to identify, and if someone calls the cops on you its up to 10 years and 100k dollars. Id hate to spend 10 years in jail, I hear they only get 85 channels on satellite, the free health and dental care is less-than-top-notch, and they dont accept insurance plans(Probably because its free) and paroll will probably only get me out 4 years early with good behaviour.

Just curious, what is a,"Can"?(For your USP) Silencer?