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Only 54 percent of eligible voters cast their ballots during the last four decades of presidential elections. Compare that embarrassing number to Italy's 90 percent, Germany's 80 percent, France and Canada's 76 percent, Britain's 75 percent and Japan's 71 percent. We rank 35th in voter turnout out of the world's prominent democracies.

if that ain't stupid what is?

we don't protect our rights like we should. that's not a flame war it's a fact. this is a country full of idiots. we don't strive for excellence we want paris hilton's shoes. i love my country, wouldn't want to be anywhere else but we need to put more into out education system and we need to be active and informed citizens hell bent on change for the better not the fat, lazy sheep who don't vote.
 
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Not sure where those numbers are from... But our last election(2008), was our lowest voter turnout at 59.1%.

Our highest ever was 79.% in 1958.
 
78% of half of all people think 51% of countries are better than the US.
 
resurrecting a dead thread over 2 years old deserves to be negged. like those points mean anything anyways. :jerkit:
That's your choice, but I have no interest in negging people for such petty things. If I wanted that level of maturity I would post on BB.com.
 
Not sure where those numbers are from... But our last election(2008), was our lowest voter turnout at 59.1%.

Our highest ever was 79.% in 1958.

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i'm assuming the numbers are a 4 decade average. if not wholley accurate it's still sadly believable.

i'm also assuming this other tidbit is true just because i like it so much...

:thinking: someone told me he read that when you lose your temper your iq drops 30 points. :thinking:
 
That's your choice, but I have no interest in negging people for such petty things. If I wanted that level of maturity I would post on BB.com.
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yup, you're a model of maturity. I negged you 1k points and you retaliated by negging me 18k. well done.
 
yup, you're a model of maturity. I negged you 1k points and you retaliated by negging me 18k. well done.
You launched a preemptive strike when you negged me for no reason. You hit me with 100% of what you could......I did the same, the only problem is I had much more than you at my disposal. You lost, Deal with it.

You reap what you sew. ;)
 
just because someone doesn't vote doesn't mean they are stupid. let's no get carried away here. As it pertains to the second amendment I feel that those who feel strongly either way do vote. thats why there is such heated debate going on about the second amendment right now.

The second amendment as part of the bill of rights is for the purpose of protecting Americans from their government. Some people feel that we no longer need the second amendment to protect us from the government and that we will be safer from crime by disarming the populace. I tend to disagree with that line of reasoning, thats why I vote the way I do.
 
You launched a preemptive strike when you negged me for no reason. You hit me with 100% of what you could......I did the same, the only problem is I had much more than you at my disposal. You lost, Deal with it.

You reap what you sew. ;)

lost? :roflmao:

you think I give a damn about reputation points? i've been posting here for years. I have 5000 posts worth of reputation here. people either like me or they don't. please go away now. you bore me.
 
anyone here reload .308? i've got a couple questions for you
 
lost? :roflmao:

you think I give a damn about reputation points?
You clearly do because you keep bringing it up over and over again.

Yes you care, and you are now mad that like Japan you bombed Pearl harbor and did not see the A bombs coming. I only dropped one, don't force me to drop another.

My words are truth.
 
You clearly do because you keep bringing it up over and over again.

Yes you care, and you are now mad that like Japan you bombed Pearl harbor and did not see the A bombs coming. I only dropped one, don't force me to drop another.

My words are truth.

The rep system is there to, somewhat, guide people into being good posters. So he hit you with 1000 points, even though he had more, to say that he didn't like a particular post.

In retaliation, you hit him with the maximum amount that you could. Is that how this is supposed to work? All or nothing? What's the point to that?
 
The rep system is there to, somewhat, guide people into being good posters. So he hit you with 1000 points, even though he had more, to say that he didn't like a particular post.

In retaliation, you hit him with the maximum amount that you could. Is that how this is supposed to work? All or nothing? What's the point to that?
He hit me with 100% of what he could......that is he hit me with full force.

I checked his points before I hit back, and the fact that he hit as hard as he could for absolutely no reason. I found that to be in poor taste and very immature.

I always vary the rep I give depending on the post. As for negging I do not engage in that, the only time I have was after bio negged me because of his hate and insecurity about a John H thread.
 
He hit me with 100% of what he could......that is he hit me with full force.

I checked his points before I hit back, and the fact that he hit as hard as he could for absolutely no reason. I found that to be in poor taste and very immature.

I always vary the rep I give depending on the post. As for negging I do not engage in that, the only time I have was after bio negged me because of his hate and insecurity about a John H thread.

Fair enough. I though he had over 2000 points and that he hit you for only 1000.

My mistake.
 
seriously guys. enough about this in this thread. the topic is guns. outside of that lets let everything drop.
 
ok, so thats a negative on the .308, how about .40 S&W, anybody reload for any of these calibers?
 

Just the Brady Bunch doing what they do best: whining while taking their "don't don't confuse us with the facts" approach to the issue.

Nothing new here, other then the fact everyone seemingly to agree Obama falls short on most things...I'm not an Obama fan per se, but I would say he and his admin have their hands full at the moment with two wars, a crappy economy, health care reform, etc, etc

The Dems learned the hard way, going after peoples guns = getting your ass kicked out of office.

If all the above issues get "solved" in the coming few years - and we know they will not - it wouldn't surprise me if Obama et al put guns back on their agenda.
 
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ok, so thats a negative on the .308, how about .40 S&W, anybody reload for any of these calibers?

I don't reload .308 but reload 9mm, 40 and 45.
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Doesn't my member name say it all?

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What do you need to know about those calibers?
 
actually guys I got my reloading questions taken care of. thanks though:thumb:
 
The Dems learned the hard way, going after peoples guns = getting your ass kicked out of office.

If all the above issues get "solved" in the coming few years - and we know they will not - it wouldn't surprise me if Obama et al put guns back on their agenda.

I do believe you right. They'll get back to "gun control" eventually.

What I find absolutely hilarious it that when a dem stands around telling you how you don't need a gun, they have armed security guards all around them.

They're special enough to have guns, but we're not.
 
I am very pro-gun and own quite a few but can someone explain to me why registering a gun is such a big deal? We have to register our cars.
 
I am very pro-gun and own quite a few but can someone explain to me why registering a gun is such a big deal? We have to register our cars.

First off, the right to drive is not guaranteed by the Constitution.

The reason that registration sucks is that anti-gun nuts can use it get around the constitution. Once you're forced to register to get a gun they can use any sort of wild-ass criteria for getting the registration.

Registering isn't even the biggest problem. The ultimate problem is that it's only a stepping stone. The douchebag dems want to get rid of the right to own firearms. That's the real problem.
 
First off, the right to drive is not guaranteed by the Constitution.

The reason that registration sucks is that anti-gun nuts can use it get around the constitution. Once you're forced to register to get a gun they can use any sort of wild-ass criteria for getting the registration.

Registering isn't even the biggest problem. The ultimate problem is that it's only a stepping stone. The douchebag dems want to get rid of the right to own firearms. That's the real problem.
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i cannot agree more with this post if I tried. This is absolutely correct. think of what some states have done to get a CCW. they may have the right to a CCW but they make it so unbelievably hard that no one can get one. they could potentially do that with registration of a gun. DOMS you hit the nail right on the head
 
I am very pro-gun and own quite a few but can someone explain to me why registering a gun is such a big deal? We have to register our cars.
Driving is a privilege, not a right...they stressed that a billion times in drivers ed. Also there are exponentially more drivers than there are gun owners, plus the cars are using public roads so they must be kept track of and also it's a good way to keep money flowing. I don't mind gun registration, I just wish there were some way to make sure people locked their guns away so that thugs who break in while they aren't home couldn't end up using them to give guns a bad rep.....
 
Maniclion you hit that one spot on too!! In allot of ways owing or carring is also a priviledge and being responsible with your weapons is just as important, if not moreso, than driving a car.
Registration is a step in the right direction for pro-guns. It will make the people opposing guns feel better about still allowing them. The problem is that legally purchased guns are the one's on the streets.. they've been stolen from the guy who leaves it in his nightstand instead of in a safe.
Damn right Manic:thumb:
 
Registration is a step in the right direction for pro-guns. It will make the people opposing guns feel better about still allowing them.

registration is not a step in the right direction. it is a step in the wrong direction. registration of firearms will not placate the anti-gun lobby. and thinking that placation is the way to go is the wrong line of reasoning. europe tried to placate hitler, how well did that work out? These guys are not going to stop at registration. Registration will lead to prohibitive laws for registration and will only serve to disarm the law abiding populace. the idea that the guns criminals are using are guns that have been illegally stolen and therefore registration will cut down on gun crime is very naive in my opinion.
 
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