Can a person with a criminal record obtain a gun?
Do they preform a background check at all?
Do they preform a background check at all?
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all gun purchases require a federal background check if purchased from a dealer.
waiting periods and other restrictions are placed on by a state by state basis. you will have to define criminal record. no felons are allowed to purchase firearms
I really don't see what the big deal is about having to wait to get a background check or a registration.
In a way yes concealed carry is a privilege, but gun ownership is a constitutional right. The only reason I like registration is because when an irresponsible gun owner gets their gun stolen they are more likely to report it, unlike an unregistered owner who might feel embarrassed about getting robbed and not report a gun stolen. If that gun is used in a crime at least there is a record of it in the system and it can provide some useful info for the police. But ultimately I would love to see a huge concerted effort by gun owners to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, lock the guns away in a safe when you aren't home. I know there is still the black market buyers and sellers but at least a good portion of guns will be off the streets....Maniclion you hit that one spot on too!! In allot of ways owing or carring is also a priviledge and being responsible with your weapons is just as important, if not moreso, than driving a car.
Registration is a step in the right direction for pro-guns. It will make the people opposing guns feel better about still allowing them. The problem is that legally purchased guns are the one's on the streets.. they've been stolen from the guy who leaves it in his nightstand instead of in a safe.
Damn right Manic
i don't have a problem with a background check. i support it. i've gone through several and will gladly submit each time in the future. at the time i purchase from a dealer that gun is also registered to me. again not an issue. problem is, what happens when they decide to tax you $ each year for each firearm registered to you? what happens when they put such stipulations on registration that now make it prohibitive to actually purchase a gun? This has been posted before.
How much is the registration fee?
I myself am getting tired of all these taxes and fees...
I myself am getting tired of all these taxes and fees...
I really don't see gun owners as being a "careless" group when it comes to their guns. most legal gun owners are doing more than non-gun owners to keep crime down IMO
I'm sorry, but I disagree. Every little annoyance these anti's impose on the public to make it harder and harder to get a gun do nothing to the people who deserve to have a gun.
They force background checks, they force registration, they force carring permits, the force rations on ammo and what does it do? Shit. Because in most states, any law-biding adult can still go to any gun shop and buy a gun and ammo in 30 minutes or less.
And I never said registration would cut down gun crime. I simply said many of the guns on the streets were legally purchased and were registered. They simply ended on the streets because they were stolen.
If having to register a gun is the deciding factor in getting or not getting a gun, well then register it. Unless you have something to hide.
All these things they impose are less for trying to take away our rights and more about finding another way to make money on preserving us our rights. Just my opinion.
state by state bases on how guns are taxed, fees required for things like concealed carry and such. right now gun owners are not currently taxed for each gun registered to them, other than at the time of initial purchase. registration fees and taxes have been proposed in legislation, but as of yet have not yet been passed. We are lucky to have a strong gun lobby here in america at the moment.
Will, Albob feel free to correct/clarify any of my statements here. I'm sure you are much more knowledgeable in these issues than I am.
How much is it in your state then, ballpark figure.
The only people it makes it more difficult to purchase a gun are the law abiding citizens who deserve to have a gun. Criminals don't go to the gun stores to purchase a gun and therefore are not in any way effected by the laws that are passed limiting the purchase of guns.
I'm lucky by living in utah in that I can go in and walk out with a firearm in 30 minutes. the same cannot be said for those living in california, New Jersey, or Massachusetts to name a few.
By the way, it's discussions like these that are so important to be having. I respect that you have a different opinion and are willing to share it
Every one I know keeps their guns in the closet, or in a glass case or leaves the pistol in the night stand. Making it easy for criminals to grab the guns when they rob your home is careless. I think if you are going to own guns you need to accept the responsibility of keeping them out of the hands of criminals.
I recently purchased an $800 dollar firearm and walked out paying close to $900 with taxes and fees. My Concealed carry cost a $50 dollar class and another $60 in fees to send it in.
You have to pay this every year?
doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a gun available to shoot the criminals when they break in to steal your stuff and harm you? what would have happened to the 11 year old kid who got his dick shot off, and his mother if the gun was locked and hidden away in a safe?
Why is that, oh yeah because they'd have to have a background check and register the weapon.....your logic is solid, let anyone buy a gun unrestricted so that law abiding citizens and criminals can both purchase in the same places with ease.....
But thats my point.. it's not difficult at all. It's just becoming more expensive. Which I'm really fine with. I mean, from our earlier example, my car registration goes up every year. It cost money to make Motor vehicles more convienient and I will pay it. I have to drive right?
Well, it costs allot to have a nationwide gun registration information too, as a gun owner, I will gladly pay because I'm the one who wants the guns. Seems fair to me. General taxpayers don't foot that bill, Gun owners do.
By the way, it's discussions like these that are so important to be having. I respect that you have a different opinion and are willing to share it
Definitly! Same here!
you do not have to take the class again, but the fees you do have to pay again. I think the concealed carry lasts 2 years before you have to reapply. I'm really ok with that though because continued back ground checks on people carrying makes sense. The truth is people who concealed carry are some of the most law abiding citizenry you will ever meet. The general populace doesn't go through the scrutiny of a concealed carry holder, and concealed carry holders don't break laws because they don't want their rights taken away.
Why would you need to lock your gun away from yourself? I'm talking about when you leave the house, no ones home, the thief breaks in and suddenly has all your guns and you only have the one you're carrying...you just armed several crooks do you feel better about yourself, is that so you could increase your odds of testing out all that time you spent at the firing range?
But thats my point.. it's not difficult at all. It's just becoming more expensive. Which I'm really fine with. I mean, from our earlier example, my car registration goes up every year. It cost money to make Motor vehicles more convienient and I will pay it. I have to drive right?
Well, it costs allot to have a nationwide gun registration information too, as a gun owner, I will gladly pay because I'm the one who wants the guns. Seems fair to me. General taxpayers don't foot that bill, Gun owners do.
Definitly! Same here!
but now we are saying only the wealthy should own guns? I'm currently very capable of paying the price for a gun and the fees that go with it. but what if I don't have the money for a registration fee? does that mean I don't deserve to protect myself?
Even if you don't own a car, and don't drive your tax money is still being spent on roads such so others can. the reason is it is still beneficial for you that the economy is stimulated. which good transportation does.
well, law abiding gun owners help keep crime down. which is beneficial to all.
Hey, We do! I promise that I ever see you getting held up, I will get off a round.
And seriously, Wealthy? People spend more on cigarettes in a year than it costs for 10 gun owners to register their guns, which we should still point out, Registration is still currently a one time fee. At least it is for PA residence.
and this is where your argument goes off the rails. even thinking that the motivation of a gun owner is so that he can go vigilante and shoot up the bad guys is really ridiculous. it does no good to even insinuate this. I've already stated that lawful gun owners are some of the best citizenry we have and there are statistics aplenty back this up. The stereotype of the gun toting vigilante survivalist are funny, but unfounded.
Hey, We do! I promise that I ever see you getting held up, I will get off a round.
And seriously, Wealthy? People spend more on cigarettes in a year than it costs for 10 gun owners to register their guns, which we should still point out, Registration is still currently a one time fee. At least it is for PA residence.
I'm just saying we should keep it that way.
and thanks for having my back!
Actually, I do love the sport of shooting, reloading the cases with just the right charge to dial in on my accuracy but I do enjoy the security of knowing I can put two in the chest of a guy who broke into my home. Sure, piss will be running down my leg the whole time, but MOST people have guns for home protection. It's got to be better than 75 percent of the owners verses those who actually carry on the streets.
No. God forbid. Theres always that chance he hits me first.
and thats my problem with the stereotype. CCW holders are not looking for a reason to pull out there guns and take life. its just not true. as a matter of fact i believe it is just the opposite. because of our healthy respect for firearms and understanding what they can do we are praying it doesn't happen
I insinuate nothing, my only direction in all of this is what's the point of owning a gun for protection yet failing to prevent more guns from falling into the hands of criminals by neglecting to lock away guns when you're not there to keep the grubby hands of the lawless off of them.....I think that should be where all the focus on "gun control" should be is getting lawful gun owners to take responsibility to prevent their weapons from falling into the wrong hands.....
I agree........I have to make a effort to keep mine locked up because of kids. If a kid was to get mine and shoot themselves or someone else, I would be held accountable and fired and would never again be able to get a law enforcement job. That is not even counting criminal charges that could be brought up. It really isnt that hard an effort to keep guns safe. To me that is part of being a responsible gun owner.
To answer a previous question, why wait on a criminal check. Everything these days is instant.......no need to wait. Takes 5 minutes to check a background. Liberals try to impose days waiting as a way of keeping you from getting a gun. Totally not needed.
In my county a gun permit is like 5 or 10 bucks.
My guns, ammo, primers, powers, everything is in the safe. I carry, but when I come home, the gun goes right to the safe. I have a 6 year old boy who wouldn't think twice of picking up my weapon, pointing at me or anyone else and pulling the trigger, because he doesn't realize the consequesnce.
No matter how much I explain to him that they not toys, he loves them. He likes to watch me clean and field strip them and asks about every little thing. The kid cannot be trusted! lol
So into the safe they stay, even when I'm home. I have a nice Sentry model with a 6 digit pushbutton combo lock. I can open it in 10 seconds in total darkness. With safes like that available, there's never a reason for accidental discharges in the home.
No matter how much I explain to him that they not toys, he loves them. He likes to watch me clean and field strip them and asks about every little thing. The kid cannot be trusted! lol
So into the safe they stay, even when I'm home. I have a nice Sentry model with a 6 digit pushbutton combo lock. I can open it in 10 seconds in total darkness. With safes like that available, there's never a reason for accidental discharges in the home.
