Gun Forum?

[ZECH]

I have a liberty but it has a dial on it. It would be nice if it had pushbutton luck on it.
My son and daughter have grown up around my guns and know better and I totally trust them. But why take a chance. I could never live with myself if something happened.

 

[bio-chem]

Why is that, oh yeah because they'd have to have a background check and register the weapon.....your logic is solid, let anyone buy a gun unrestricted so that law abiding citizens and criminals can both purchase in the same places with ease.....

thats not what im saying at all. i've never said that letting anyone buy a gun unrestricted is what I want. I'm all for background checks. I've submitted to plenty myself. I'm against unnecessary and ineffective regulations and taxes that hinder a law abiding citizens ability to purchase a gun. 1 firearm per month does not in anyway keep guns away from criminals. waiting periods do not effect crime.

 

[Will Brink]

I am very pro-gun and own quite a few but can someone explain to me why registering a gun is such a big deal? We have to register our cars.

Then you are not pro 2A, you just own guns, and don't understand the larger implications, and historical experiences, or the data, of such an idea. Cars, BTW, are not a Const Right. Cars don't get confiscated when governments decide an unarmed populace is the goal, etc.

A gun owner ignorant of history, the Const, and the data, is only slightly better then anti gun types.

 

[ZECH]

Then you are not pro 2A, you just own guns, and don't understand the larger implications, and historical experiences, or the data, of such an idea. Cars, BTW, are not a Const Right. Cars don't get confiscated when governments decide an unarmed populace is the goal, etc.

A gun owner ignorant of history, the Const, and the data, is only slightly better then anti gun types.

Very true...good post!

 

[ZECH]

my new toy.........maybe I can afford to shoot a little now.
It does not like sub sonic loads. It needs high velocity to create enough pressure to cycle correctly. Great little shooter though and accurate.

 

[bio-chem]

my new toy.........maybe I can afford to shoot a little now.
It does not like sub sonic loads. It needs high velocity to create enough pressure to cycle correctly. Great little shooter though and accurate.

I really like those little guns. nice purchase

 

[FMJ]

my new toy.........maybe I can afford to shoot a little now.
It does not like sub sonic loads. It needs high velocity to create enough pressure to cycle correctly. Great little shooter though and accurate.

Walther is an excellent firearm and for $20 you can shoot it all day. 22 is dirt cheap. Federal, I think, makes the best 22 ammo. I have the Buckmark II and it loves fed ammo. Never jams or stovepipes.
The nice thing about the walther is you can get the conversion barrels for them and fire 9mm through it. For another $200 it's like having two guns!
Nice pick up dg!

 

[bio-chem]

I've got to admit im kind of impressed with their little PK 380 as well. thats a hell of a carry gun for a woman IMO

 

[ZECH]

You can also get one of these to fit it.......
P22 Suppressor

 

[FMJ]

You can also get one of these to fit it.......
P22 Suppressor

That's the shit right there!

 

[bio-chem]

Supreme Court to address limits of gun control - CNN.com

In case you haven't read this. Supreme Court case effecting 2nd amendment. chicago vs McDonald

 

[brk_nemesis]

yup... gonna be a good one,.. we'll see what happens....

 

[DOMS]

Supreme Court to address limits of gun control - CNN.com

In case you haven't read this. Supreme Court case effecting 2nd amendment. chicago vs McDonald

The court will ultimately decide two fundamental questions: Do strict state and local gun control laws violate the constitutional "right to keep and bear arms"? And can an individual's right to own a weapon extend beyond federal jurisdiction?

I'm not sure about the second question, because I don't know what they mean by "beyond federal jurisdiction.", but how is the first question even a question? The Constitution doesn't say that we should be able to arm ourselves if the local government feels like letting us.

I'll take this moment to once again point out that the politicians that tell us we don't need guns have armed guards. What a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[soxmuscle]

idsnews.com | Indiana Daily Student |

I'm sorry, but this is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

I understand the mindset that you want to be protected in a time of need, but if that gives people the ability to bring a loaded weapon into a busy bar while they're drinking, it's absolutely absurd.

What an insecure fuckin douchebag..

 

[ZECH]

I don't see where DC and Chicago should be different. You still have private citizens wanting to protect themselves. And if the truth was known, there should not be ANY NEED to make more gun laws in Chicago. Most of those gang and drug dealers already have records, which already make it ILLEGAL for them to have guns. So even if you make new laws, making it where Otis Mcdonald can't defend himself, the gangs and drug dealers will still have them and nothing to fear. Come on panty waste liberals, wake up and see the real world and quit dreaming.

 

[ZECH]

The solution to the problem is this.......Keep all repeat violent crime offenders in jail and quit returning them to the streets where they commit more crime. Sad but true.

 

[tucker01]

The solution to the problem is this.......Keep all repeat violent crime offenders in jail and quit returning them to the streets where they commit more crime. Sad but true.

No no.... they can be rehabilitated of course. In a system where the jails are even more gang driven. All about rehabilitation.

 

[DOMS]

The solution to the problem is this.......Keep all repeat violent crime offenders in jail and quit returning them to the streets where they commit more crime. Sad but true.

I like the Chinese method: you kill them.

 

[bio-chem]

idsnews.com | Indiana Daily Student |

I'm sorry, but this is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

I understand the mindset that you want to be protected in a time of need, but if that gives people the ability to bring a loaded weapon into a busy bar while they're drinking, it's absolutely absurd.

What an insecure fuckin douchebag..

"Brill told officers he had a loaded Smith & Wesson .45-caliber automatic handgun"
I wish people in the media would educate themselves a bit before they write articles. semi-automatic and automatic are different, and confusing the two is irresponsible.


I have very little idea what happened in this instance, so I'm not going to make a judgement on who is in the right here, but I'll tell you this, if 5 guys come up to me and threaten me thats the exact situation I want a gun in.

 

[maniclion]

So sick of that militia argument, why can't these people get it through their heads that back when it was written the militia was like Jury service, the government called for your service and you brought your own gun. The National Guard is not militia, they get paid and are armed by the government.

 

[soxmuscle]

"Brill told officers he had a loaded Smith & Wesson .45-caliber automatic handgun"
I wish people in the media would educate themselves a bit before they write articles. semi-automatic and automatic are different, and confusing the two is irresponsible.


I have very little idea what happened in this instance, so I'm not going to make a judgement on who is in the right here, but I'll tell you this, if 5 guys come up to me and threaten me thats the exact situation I want a gun in.

He was being a creep, five guys came up to him to tell him to leave their girlfriend alone. He continued to creep and eventually took out his loaded handgun and pistol whipped one of the guys that came to the aid of this girl who wanted no part of a guy who wouldn't leave her alone.

I can see the need for guns in a rare, self-defense situation but I doubt I'll ever own one because I'm secure with the size of my penis.

 

[bio-chem]

He was being a creep, five guys came up to him to tell him to leave their girlfriend alone. He continued to creep and eventually took out his loaded handgun and pistol whipped one of the guys that came to the aid of this girl who wanted no part of a guy who wouldn't leave her alone.

I can see the need for guns in a rare, self-defense situation but I doubt I'll ever own one because I'm secure with the size of my penis.

I didn't get that from the article. do you know something about this situation that wasn't in the article you posted?

It's good you won't own a firearm. A guy who doesn't understand the 2nd amendment doesn't deserve it's benefit.

 

[maniclion]

"Brill told officers he was afraid and pulled the gun for protection. He said he had been injured in fights in Bloomington before."

Maybe this guy needs to stay out of Bloomington. My experience tells me most people who get into "fights" are just as blame worthy as the people who they were fighting with. If you are a hot head who gets into fights often you should probably stay out of bars where situations like this tend to arise....

It's guys like this that give gun owners a bad name....

 

[bio-chem]

So sick of that militia argument, why can't these people get it through their heads that back when it was written the militia was like Jury service, the government called for your service and you brought your own gun. The National Guard is not militia, they get paid and are armed by the government.

national guard created:1916
Bill of Rights:1791

 

[ZECH]

No no.... they can be rehabilitated of course. In a system where the jails are even more gang driven. All about rehabilitation.

Not sure if you are serious or not, but it can happen, but very very rare.

 

[tucker01]

Not sure if you are serious or not, but it can happen, but very very rare.

I am being sarcastic. No way these violent/sexual/repeat offenders should ever see the light of day again.

It is extremely rare. The gang is stronger then the self, in many of these cases.

 

[ALBOB]

I can see the need for guns in a rare, self-defense situation but I doubt I'll ever own one because I'm secure with the size of my penis.

Maybe so but, with statements like that your brain sure is undersized.

 

[brk_nemesis]

He was being a creep, five guys came up to him to tell him to leave their girlfriend alone. He continued to creep and eventually took out his loaded handgun and pistol whipped one of the guys that came to the aid of this girl who wanted no part of a guy who wouldn't leave her alone.

I can see the need for guns in a rare, self-defense situation but I doubt I'll ever own one because I'm secure with the size of my penis.

This is a quite rare situation. You will aways have that one "fuckup" that is just plain stupid, and a coward and draws attention to the point where it ruins it for everyone else. CCW holders must have clean records before getting the permit, and statistics show that crimes involving CCW permit holders are unbelievably low, and rather rare.

The point of any extension to restaurants and bars has nothing to do with some "insecure" guy walking into a bar at 4am and pointing a gun around. It has to do with many restaurants and places falling into the category of a "bar" due to revenue, and also to extend the safety of permit holders. This guy apparently is an idiot, more than likely a coward, and thats all there is too it. Criminals don't need a ccw or a clean record to bring a gun into a bar, in fact many do it all the time,... they are criminals. There have been plenty of gang murders all around this area, MS-13 being one, at places near bars.

The former CCW requirements were you could not carry into a gov't building, park, "public gatherings" and places that made a majority revenue off of alcohol, which includes many restaurants, since alcohol is obviously a higher source of income than food. Its a grey area subject, just like the "public places" arguement. I am actually happy they extended the perimeters for carry. But that doesnt mean people should trade practicality or intelligence for safety or ego trips.

But if a guy walks into a bar, carrying and loaded, CCW holder, at 4am in the morning, in an area were he "apparently" has gotten into fights before, thinking a CCW will give him free reign to shoot anyone,... hes a fukin dumbass, and is not a representation of all CCW permit holders or the laws that permit the places they are allowed to legally carry.

 

[maniclion]

But if a guy walks into a bar, carrying and loaded, CCW holder, at 4am in the morning, in an area were he "apparently" has gotten into fights before, thinking a CCW will give him free reign to shoot anyone,... hes a fukin dumbass, and is not a representation of all CCW permit holders or the laws that permit the places they are allowed to legally carry.

My point exactly, and just because the guy had a permit to carry doesn't mean the same guy wouldn't show up with a handgun illegally or any other person for that matter....the fact is that at some point a person will have a gun illegally and hopefully there will be someone around with a legal permit who handles their monkey ass for the sake of the rest of the unarmed folk....

 

[bio-chem]

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence : State Gun Laws


the brady campaign has rated states based upon their gun laws. Utah got a 0.
It's ironic that the states with the strictest gun laws have the most gun violence. go figure. anyway, if you guys are interested check out the link.