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Half of fast food workers need public aid

no one non management makes 1700 a month at mcdonalds
do you even math bro

8.50 x 8 = 68$ a day
68$ x 23=1564.

A cashier where I live can make any where from 8.50 to 10$ an hour. so at the higher rating is 1840.

Also In and Out plays 10-12$ an hour with benefits.

Or if they cant get a 6 day work week then they can get another job to supplement the hours. Its called doing what you need to to survive.
 
not really

you whined your parents werent there...thn said they worked 3 jobs...to...gasp....provide for you
ill trade that for my empty plates and bouncing from foster home to group home and back again bud

So you blame your lack of desire and success off of something that you could not control. Maybe that is why you will never meet your true potential. If you want to compare rough and at the bottom then look up the freewheelproject.org and look up Tony Hoffman. Felon, in and our of jail/prison, homeless, drug addict. To a professional athlete and business owner. I never said my up bringing was not the hardest. So if you want a cock length contest i did not grow up in a group home, but that fact is you never regain control of your life and your still allowing your past to influence your future. You can cry all you want about being homeless or what ever, but the list goes on and on about homeless people who are now millionaires. Look up Paul Mitchells bio. Or maybe you just have no drive for success.
 
if this country is retarded enough to give our fucking jobs away, if our government is retarded enough to allow it, they need to make the jobs we have left pay a livable wage.[/QUOTE]

here they get 8 flat....and no one gets 40...overtime yeah right

maybe true in your demographic but i have a cousin working 6 days a week at taco bell also min wage goes up to 10$ an hour in 4 days in CA.
 
nah...im happy...i just wanted to be normal

i just gave the early life example of how not all are given the same oppurtunities
i never was a child living off of parents

never had a single soul to back me up

hard to plan for some glamorous future when you are concerned about where youll sleep...or if someone might feed you that day
 
lol at you listing miracle one in a million stories like it is even remotely possible every day story...lotta luck along with drive
 
nah...im happy...i just wanted to be normal

i just gave the early life example of how not all are given the same oppurtunities
i never was a child living off of parents

never had a single soul to back me up

hard to plan for some glamorous future when you are concerned about where youll sleep...or if someone might feed you that day

then that is fine, if your happy with your current life style then you achieved your goals. My complaint are the ones crying aboutthe money they make, but do not do anything to better then selves. If they have making minimum wage but they are only qualified for min wage jobs, then they better invest some time to educate them selves. Ok that costs money, TONS of gov't assistants out there to help people.
 
lol at you listing miracle one in a million stories like it is even remotely possible every day story...lotta luck along with drive

I can list a pretty large laundry list of successful millionaires who i consider as mentors, but there not in the papers or known. Most of them were came by with nothing as well. Few were migrants in the 60's.
yes the list for millionaires from nothing to something is small. But so is the number of people who actually desire and fight for the level of success.
 
it is ridiculous to insinuate that there is room at the top of the food chain...for everyone

there isnt, but that line is what will prevent people from achieving. You might as well give up because its not possible. There is plenty of money to be made, you just have to find the right investment, right business, at the right time. I missed my first shot with gold. I was close to investing 40k from a bonus in gold in 2003. That for 303$ per and at the high sale it for 1600 per. That would have been over a 200k profit. I learned that day if you hesitate you will never be successful. So if i see an opportunity for success i take it.
 
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Or if they cant get a 6 day work week then they can get another job to supplement the hours. Its called doing what you need to to survive.

real world economic data doesn't support your solution, there aren't enough jobs available for everyone to "work as much as they want to" those days ended long ago the extent of that varies from metro to metro. in the north east those days were over in the early 90's.

demand is down from the housing crisis and the pre-2008 recession levels of consumption were unsustainable as they were fueled by debt fueled consumption. the entire increase in GDP from 2001-2008 was from mortgage debt, that was obviously unsustainable.

the economy of today is the new normal and it's never going to go back to the way it was. US real GDP growth and real wage growth for the majority is going to be sluggish from now on. the 2013 economy is closer to what the economy would have looked like in the 2000's if not for the manufactured housing boom, which was the direct result of policy and not supply and demand.
 
it is ridiculous to insinuate that there is room at the top of the food chain...for everyone

idealogues just don't get it, I guess that's why they suck at the sciences, critical thought just isn't an option for them.
 
You tell me.
Would you rather pay 10 cents more for a hamburger and a drink ... or pay increased taxes?

^Not an actual math problem. So I'm going with...
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What it all comes down to is the top 1% have most of the wealth in this country. No matter what you do, how many hours you work at $8/hour, how much your wife/girlfriend works to help, how educated you are, that to 1% isn't going to let you in because they sure as hell aren't giving it out to anyone. They pay the legislators to tip the scales in their favor and that's how it's going to be until the vast majority who have been brainwashed to think that if you aren't successful it's because you aren't working hard enough wake the fuck up and realize killing yourself over a job isn't going to change things for you.
 
only single mothers and the elderly can collect welfare.

and maybe it's also because the US economy of 2013 is totally different then it was 20-30 years ago? wages are flat, prices of goods and services increase at double the rate of the CPI and more then real GDP growth and the dollar isn't worth shit. the shift to a large service sector means the majority of jobs are low paying, there are no "options" in reality. you can trade on low paying job for another.

do you know what other country in the OECD has a large population and a service sector based economy that can't support the entire population? Mexico...the future of the US is right to our southern border

LAM.
Will you stop confusing the conservative free market ideologists with facts?

Everyone that is a conservative free market ideologist knows it's the fault of the working poor that they are poor and that the one percent that has captured 93%+ of all income in the U.S. since the 2008 recession started means that the one percent will soon trickle down that income and that supply side economics combined with a rising tide will soon lift all boats.
Their yachts and everyone elses one oar rowboats.

You tell me.
Would you rather pay 10 cents more for a hamburger and a drink at McDonald's so that McDonalds can pay a living wage and benefits to their employees at a level that disqualifies them from receiving welfare benefits or pay increased taxes due to those McDonald's employees being on taxpayer funded welfare?
Same with Wal-Mart.
Would you rather pay 10 cents more for a product sold at Wal-Mart so that Wal-Mart can pay a living wage and benefits to their employees at a level that disqualifies them from receiving welfare benefits or pay increased taxes due to employees being on taxpayer funded welfare?


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This is common sense.
Either way, as a consumer or a taxpayer you are going to pay one way or another.

FWIW:
I said nothing about families getting welfare or government assistance, read my WHOLE POST, then reply if you want.

Bowden, you're ridiculous, you know nothing about me, my life philosophy, or my thoughts on political views. Why do you think you do? "Even a fool can appear wise if he keeps his mouth shut"

Lam, do you have a crystal ball that tells you the future? NO, you do not, why do you predict it so often? We are nothing at all like Mexico and short of a nuclear attack, we never will be.
 
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it is ridiculous to insinuate that there is room at the top of the food chain...for everyone

He didn't. There are some well paying jobs in the U.S. that they are having difficulty finding qualified candidates for. Someone out there has the ability and the desire.
 
What it all comes down to is the top 1% have most of the wealth in this country. No matter what you do, how many hours you work at $8/hour, how much your wife/girlfriend works to help, how educated you are, that to 1% isn't going to let you in because they sure as hell aren't giving it out to anyone.

That has nothing to do with raising minimum wage. In no way does making $12/hr at McDonald's help reach the top 1%.
 
He didn't. There are some well paying jobs in the U.S. that they are having difficulty finding qualified candidates for. Someone out there has the ability and the desire.
america must be in great shape then...everyone must get a job straight out college
bwahahahaha
really?
i mean really?
 
stuff that makes me sick as far as charity goes is all the fucking junkies receiving free methadone and the costs to run those clinics. i guess everyone is entitled to their own bug up their ass but this one is wrong on so many levels. not sure who can support it. finding out in 3...2....1...


I never thought I'd hear you say you're against helping someone out LW. I think these programs are fantastic and need to be expanded. You can either help the junkie out and keep him off of the streets at a small cost to the tax payer or let him shoot up whenever, wherever. Look at the success of Insite in Vancouver:

User statistics

-We have had more than 2.0 million visits since we first opened in 2003
-There are currently about 12,000 users registered at InSite.

2012 user statistics

From January 1 to December 21, 2012, there were:

376,149 visits to the site by 9,259 unique individuals
An average of 1,028 visits per day
193,764 visits to the injection room
An average of 529 injection room vists per day
497 overdose incidents
3,418 clinical treatment interventions
27% of participants were women
17% of participants were aboriginal
Principle substances reported were heroin (51% of instances), cocaine (22% of instances) and methampethamine (10%)
4,564 referrals to other social and health services
488 discharges from Onsite detox

Vancouver Coastal Health - Supervised Injection - Supporting Research



These people could have been shooting up in random alleys by schools and leave their dirty needles everywhere. Instead they're given a place to do it out of public site and supplied with clean needles which prevents the spread of disease. If those people overdosed and died that would have cost the taxpayer a lot more to bury him than it would have to have helped him out. A little help goes a long way.
 
That has nothing to do with raising minimum wage. In no way does making $12/hr at McDonald's help reach the top 1%.

It isn't about reaching the top 1%, it's about wages people can afford to live on. The 1% have so much already and they want so much more that everyone else is fighting for scraps. They are laughing because we are fighting each other rather than going after them.
 
america must be in great shape then...everyone must get a job straight out college
bwahahahaha
really?
i mean really?

I didn't say that. You keep reading stuff people aren't writing.
 
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It isn't about reaching the top 1%, it's about wages people can afford to live on. The 1% have so much already and they want so much more that everyone else is fighting for scraps. They are laughing because we are fighting each other rather than going after them.

Sounds like the zero sum fallacy.
 
idealogues just don't get it, I guess that's why they suck at the sciences, critical thought just isn't an option for them.

why won't you answer my question?

again, how much per hour is a livable wage for a fast food worker?
 
It isn't about reaching the top 1%, it's about wages people can afford to live on. The 1% have so much already and they want so much more that everyone else is fighting for scraps. They are laughing because we are fighting each other rather than going after them.

what's a livable wage for a fast food worker????????
 
While I agree the top 1% are probably trying to fuck everyone else over I don't see why that means fast food workers or anyone in a bottom end job like that deserve more pay. Why should they get $20+/hr, benefits, and a pension for putting some fries in a deep frier and putting a burger together?
 
only single mothers and the elderly can collect welfare.

and maybe it's also because the US economy of 2013 is totally different then it was 20-30 years ago? wages are flat, prices of goods and services increase at double the rate of the CPI and more then real GDP growth and the dollar isn't worth shit. the shift to a large service sector means the majority of jobs are low paying, there are no "options" in reality. you can trade on low paying job for another.

do you know what other country in the OECD has a large population and a service sector based economy that can't support the entire population? Mexico...the future of the US is right to our southern border

[h=1]EBT card food stamp recipients ransack Wal-Mart stores[/h]


Stealing carts full of food during federal computer glitch
October 14, 2013
When the federal EBT food stamp system suffered a critical failure on Saturday, local retailers were disconnected from the federal food stamp database that keeps track of how much credit is left on each individual EBT card. Seizing the opportunity provided by the glitch, EBT card holders in Louisiana ransacked their local Wal-Mart stores, stuffing their shopping carts full of groceries and ?paying? for them with near-empty EBT cards that essentially had unlimited account balances because all accounting was offline.
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Image: Walmart.

When the EBT database came back online and card purchase limits were suddenly restored, EBT card holders abandoned their full carts and just walked away, probably miffed that they missed out on participating in the felony theft of groceries.
This happened at Wal-Mart stores in Springhill and Mansfield, LA. As local news station KSLA reports:
Shelves in Walmart stores in Springhill and Mansfield, LA were reportedly cleared Saturday night, when the stores allowed purchases on EBT cards even though they were not showing limits.
The chaos that followed ultimately required intervention from local police, and left behind numerous carts filled to overflowing, apparently abandoned when the glitch-spurred shopping frenzy ended.

The story goes on to report that one woman who racked up $700 worth of groceries had only 49 cents on her card. That?s $699.51 in theft.
But that?s the mindset of many (but not all) EBT card holders, you see: it?s all about how much they can get away with stealing without getting caught. As it is virtually impossible to retrieve all these stolen items from EBT cardholders, these losses are going to have to be absorbed by either Wal-Mart or the federal government. In either case, other people must burden the cost of the theft.
For the record, not everyone on EBT cards is a social parasite. Some are truly hard-working moms and dads and others who really need a short-term safety net, and I?m for supporting those who need a helping hand to get back on their feet. If someone is working, trying to make ends meet and needs some short-term assistance, we must have the compassion to help them. But far too many people today are simply unwilling to work, and their entire economic plan is to suck off the system and collect as much as they can off everyone else while refusing to contribute to society themselves. That?s the mindset of a great many EBT card holders who engage in widespread abuse and fraud. Some even sell their EBT cards to crooked shop owners who pay them cash. That cash is often used to buy crack or other street drugs.
This is now what characterizes the EBT program in America: massive fraud and abuse.
An important lesson in the twisted morality of those who engage in ?proxy theft? of food and money
In analyzing this behavior, what I?m about to share with you here is hugely important for anyone who wants to survive the coming social chaos and urban death traps that will unfold when a real crisis hits. Please help me get this story posted at SurvivalBlog.com, DailyPaul.com and other liberty / preparedness sites where it may be of use.
Here?s the life-or-death lesson in all this:
Most people who live off the government have no concept of private property. They literally do not believe that stealing large quantities of food from someone else is morally wrong. In fact, they believe that YOUR stored food actually belongs to THEM because they are ?entitled? to live off you like parasites. This is the only life they know, and this is how they are born, raised and trained by the Democrats to remain wholly subservient to the government for their entire lives.
As proof of this, read some of the comments posted on this article. You will find, in astonishment, that nearly all the comments are from people who say there is nothing wrong from stealing food from Wal-Mart because it?s a ?rich? corporation. Instead of condemning the people stealing shopping carts full of food from Wal-Mart, they are condemning me for daring to write about this issue. Apparently, I am bad for opposing the theft of food. In fact, according to some comments, I am engaged in a ?hate crime? for even pointing out that stealing food is wrong.
These comments demonstrate exactly my point. We now live in a society that?s so pathetic and so twisted in its moral code that the ransacking of a retailer by EBT card holders is considered morally justifiable. Anyone who opposes it is accused of spewing ?hate crimes.? Don?t put much weight into those attacking this story, by the way. Many of them are the very same people who will not survive the coming federal financial default. In their denial of reality, they can only resort to lashing out against those who are trying to save them by alerting them to the truth.
How will the federal government reach a state of default? The reversal of morals and ethics is precisely what drives the acceleration of the welfare state into ever larger handouts for the demanding masses until the whole system reaches a point of unsustainable default. Once individual morality is gone, the morality of the nation quickly falls. And today, we are witnessing a wholesale reversal of morals in the minds of individual EBT recipients.
As this small EBT card glitch clearly demonstrates, if given half a chance, many EBT card holders will immediately engage in the mass looting of food and supplies as long as they can get away with it. This was not one or two isolated people; this involved masses of people who spontaneously transformed into a rampaging mob of looting maniacs that ransacked a private business and caused huge losses in stolen goods and displaced inventory.
To clarify, I am not saying that all EBT card holders are one trigger away from slipping into a raging mob of looters. But many of them are. Food stamps are just a ?safe? way for them to mug you, indirectly, through the ?proxy theft? of government. Every paycheck you earn is already being looted against your will, and a significant portion of that money is going to pay for the ?benefits? of many people who flat-out refuse to work or to take any responsibility for their own lives.
 
While I agree the top 1% are probably trying to fuck everyone else over I don't see why that means fast food workers or anyone in a bottom end job like that deserve more pay. Why should they get $20+/hr, benefits, and a pension for putting some fries in a deep frier and putting a burger together?

it's basic mathematics, either they get paid more or the government provides more of their income via various types of transfers.

the best way to end poverty is to stop paying poverty wages, and that's were wages are at for the majority in the bottom 2 income quintiles. they earn the least there for taxes at the state level for them are highly regressive as it accounts for a greater total percentage of their income.
 
it's basic mathematics, either they get paid more or the government provides more of their income via various types of transfers.

the best way to end poverty is to stop paying poverty wages, and that's were wages are at for the majority in the bottom 2 income quintiles. they earn the least there for taxes at the state level for them are highly regressive as it accounts for a greater total percentage of their income.


Why should the government have to help them out at all?
 
it's basic mathematics, either they get paid more or the government provides more of their income via various types of transfers.

the best way to end poverty is to stop paying poverty wages, and that's were wages are at for the majority in the bottom 2 income quintiles. they earn the least there for taxes at the state level for them are highly regressive as it accounts for a greater total percentage of their income.

what's the problem? why won't you answer my question?
 
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