Help me pick a new compound to run with test.

[vindicated346]

I basically skimmed over this..so if i missed it, I apologize..I noticed you said you didnt want to do ED injections with Tren..So why not just do EOD..run your test E.tren A. some Primo and maybe some var..combine your two weekly injections of Test E with your tren injection and you should be fine

 

[Crank]

 

[SloppyJ]

One thing I NEVER understood (not saying you in particular) is when someone does two cycles including PCT, the first one they bulk and the second one they cut. My question has always been how can you grow or expect any type of real change when you're constantly over eating and then undereating? Your body is constantly struggling to figure out just what you're trying to do. It just never made sense to me, maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about to begin with?

Man you're right. Hell maybe I'll do test/deca and just keep bulking. But on the other hand I want to look nice and hard in the summer. That's the thing that's stopping me. Is there a way to acomplish this? I don't really want to "cut" I think a cycle should be a bulk. But that's just me speaking from my limited experience.

 

[GMO]

Man you're right. Hell maybe I'll do test/deca and just keep bulking. But on the other hand I want to look nice and hard in the summer. That's the thing that's stopping me. Is there a way to acomplish this? I don't really want to "cut" I think a cycle should be a bulk. But that's just me speaking from my limited experience.

One word for you...Trenbolone. It is the best of both worlds IMO, but nothing is going to bulk you like Test/Deca/D-bol.

 

[blergs.]

My point is if you're too fat when you get ready for your next cycle, I would assume you're going to cut. If you're not too fat then we can assume you might bulk.

You're not going to know where you stand BF wise until about 3-4 weeks out, plus you might change your mind.

One thing I NEVER understood (not saying you in particular) is when someone does two cycles including PCT, the first one they bulk and the second one they cut. My question has always been how can you grow or expect any type of real change when you're constantly over eating and then undereating? Your body is constantly struggling to figure out just what you're trying to do. It just never made sense to me, maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about to begin with?

I agree i always likes o do 1-2 bulkers and a MILD recomp. but an all out cut? after a few bulkers.

anyway to the thread starter. this is your first cycle i gather so i WONT reccomend tren as it can be VERY VERY harsh for some (not me thow im lucky) I recently used 1-testcyp and found it to be very mild but lean in its gains and found it very nice stacked with the geneza test cyp.
i would rec for your next cycle :
wk1-14 500mg GP testE or cyp EW (split into 2 shots a week 3-4days apart is better)
wk1-12 400mg ew GP 1-testcyp
wk1-6 30mg dbol ed
*PCT*

again, if your Bodyfat is high i dont reccomend you use any aas. cut and get healthy.

i rec need2slin , cla and lots of protein powder with propor diet.

 

[SloppyJ]

^^ Nah bro this will be my 2nd one. First one is Test/Dbol/Winny.

I think I might really have to consider tren E for what I'm wanting to do. I really wanted to run it in my first cycle but all of the horror stories are kind of freaking me out.

 

[bknoxx]

so where does everyone get their gear?












jk

I don't know where do you

 

[GMO]

^^ Nah bro this will be my 2nd one. First one is Test/Dbol/Winny.

I think I might really have to consider tren E for what I'm wanting to do. I really wanted to run it in my first cycle but all of the horror stories are kind of freaking me out.

Don't believe the hype, bro. There is nothing scary about Tren if you know what you are doing. I have done it and I know a lot of people that have done it, and I don't know of any first hand horror stories. You can't always believe what you read on the Internet. For example: Some jackass stacks Deca/Tren/Anadrol and uses Nolva for an anti-e and posts that Tren has horrible sides...NO, you're just a f**king moron that doesn't know dick about AAS.

If you are still concerned, run the acetate instead of enanthate.

 

[XYZ]

Don't believe the hype, bro. There is nothing scary about Tren if you know what you are doing. I have done it and I know a lot of people that have done it, and I don't know of any first hand horror stories. You can't always believe what you read on the Internet. For example: Some jackass stacks Deca/Tren/Anadrol and uses Nolva for an anti-e and posts that Tren has horrible sides...NO, you're just a f**king moron that doesn't know dick about AAS.

If you are still concerned, run the acetate instead of enanthate.

I don't know.......results are second to none but it destroys your liver values and cholesterol. It also wreaks havoc on your metabolic work. It has also been shown to be terrible for your heart. Now that being said, I don't think lower dosages for shorter periods are going to cause permanent damage, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

The bad thing is there are ZERO studies done on this stuff for humans. Kind of scary thinking all we have to go off of is "Brology".

 

[XYZ]

Man you're right. Hell maybe I'll do test/deca and just keep bulking. But on the other hand I want to look nice and hard in the summer. That's the thing that's stopping me. Is there a way to acomplish this? I don't really want to "cut" I think a cycle should be a bulk. But that's just me speaking from my limited experience.

Here is what I would do if I were in your shoes........Bulk, do the PCT and get bloodwork done to be sure you've recovered. Keep training with heavy weights and lowered reps just knock back on the total volume. 8-10 sets for large muscle groups and 6-4 for smaller ones.

THINK about running some IGF1-LR3 during PCT. This will help you retain a large portion of your gains.

KEEP EATING, this is the biggest problem most people have. You gain 10-15lbs on a cycle and still eat for someone weighing less than that.......what do you think happens.

DO NOT DO ANY CARDIO until you've recovered.

Keep the diet clean, as long as you're at 90% or better you can allow for X amount of cheat meals. Meaning if I eat 5 times a day 7 days a week this is a total of 35 meals. Multiply that by .90 and you get 31.5. Round up to 32 and the remaining 3 meals a week can be what ever you want.

Bulk again but keep it clean and add 2-3 30min cardio sessions in just to be sure you're staying lean, along with 50mcgs of T3 if you want.

That's just what I would do if I were in your shoes.

 

[GMO]

I don't know.......results are second to none but it destroys your liver values and cholesterol. It also wreaks havoc on your metabolic work. It has also been shown to be terrible for your heart. Now that being said, I don't think lower dosages for shorter periods are going to cause permanent damage, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

The bad thing is there are ZERO studies done on this stuff for humans. Kind of scary thinking all we have to go off of is "Brology".

Yes, CT...there is no doubt that the stuff is harsh as hell on the body, but I agree with you that moderate dosages for short periods of time should be ok. I never have run it more than 8 weeks.

 

[Hendog]

I talked to a pro bb and he said hands down primo is his fav gear. Even more so than Var for cutting. Said he's used it at high doses without any sides. If you seen his pic, you'd believe what I'm telling you. I'm gonna try it next cycle. It is expensive and beware of counterfeits. Make sure your source is reputable b/c some will substitute say EQ for primo and make three times the money. And you don't necessarily need to be a single digit bf to use any substance. I know it's recommended for some like masteron but as long as you're at a reasonable bf, like 12-14%, you'll be okay IMO. There's some reading material on primo in BOP. I'm completely sold on it after all that I've read. Plus it was arnold's favorite. That alone should tell you a lot lol.

"Even more so than Var for cutting"

WTF???



Is Anavar some sort of miracle cutting drug all of a sudden?

 

[The Prototype]

"Even more so than Var for cutting"

WTF???



Is Anavar some sort of miracle cutting drug all of a sudden?

Who said Var was a miracle cutting drug? Most experienced users use Var for lean gains that are moderate. There is no miracle steroid that will cut you. That is done by dieting and cardio. But incorporating certain steroids such as Var, Primo, Masteron, Winny, etc. will most certainly help you achieve your goal of lowering bf and to lean out before say a contest. So if your goal is to cut, what are you going to use, dbol or anadrol, or maybe winny or anavar? I think almost everyone will pick the latter.