Hitting a blood vien

[eyeofrah]

Anyone acually injected test or another roid into a vein on accident, if so what accured seroiusly... never happen to me, but it is worth asking the question.. i allways pull back to make sure there is no blood....I am sure that i have went through a blood vein before before entering muscle...i believe i experience elavated heart rate.

 

[GH Consigliere]

I did was coughing like hell short of breath heart racing.

 

[TGB1987]

This ^.

 

[Himik]

A friend of mine told me that he passed out for a few secs, that's why I always aspire.

 

[eyeofrah]

hmmmm

You know what.... I remember I had to go to the hospitol for short of breath and could not breath.....I was injecting at the time... that might of been what happen , thanks man, They just said my white blood cell count has elevated and that is all they could find....wow

 

[Digitalash]

Heard somewhere around here that it would take around 5ccs of oil directly into a vein to kill you, kinda put my mind at ease

heard quite a few people experiencing coughing fits and dizziness from hitting a blood vessel though

 

[Klutch]

is there any reported deaths from injecting in a vein?

 

[Klutch]

we should write to our congress and tell them to pump 5cc of test into the next lethal injection case to see if it will kill them.. then we will know

 

[eyeofrah]

lol If it did not kill them.....would turn them to the hulk if it was test suspension or test prop That will never happen...but yeah I really was curious on learning of this...im not paying attention all the time. and i play doc with my friends and it would suck if they died from an inject i give them

 

[Digitalash]

is there any reported deaths from injecting in a vein?

Can't seem to find any that directly state AAS as the cause of death, but other oil embolisms certainly have (and so I don't see why enough AAS into a vein wouldn't have the same effect)

FATAL OIL EMBOLISM FROM SUBCUTANEOUS INJECTION OF OLIVE-OIL

Acute pulmonary oil embolism and lethal dose study of an oily contrast medium following portal vein administration into dogs - Lee - 2006 - Journal of Surgical Oncology - Wiley Online Library

JAMA.: The Journal of the American ... - Google Books



Wouldn't worry yourself though, seems it would take quite a bit to actually be lethal. Probably more than 90% of people inject at a time, directly into a blood vessel. The study on dogs seems to say it took 2.5 ml per kg to be commonly fatal which is wayyy up there. Also It says sometimes a small embolism can occur just from being near lymph ducts. And fat embolism sometimes occurs from major bone fractures (I'm guessing bone marrow entering blood stream?) which is sometimes fatal. Spent some time looking into it before my first pin, I was expecting just a little bit of oil into the blood and I'd be a dead man lol. Really I wouldn't worry about it

Edit: Misread that, it was actually 5.1 ml per kg which would kill a dog, so 500+ml for a 100kg man, If anyone's using that much gear then an embolism is probably the least of their worries lol

 

[Klutch]

If they did die you prob would be charged with man slaughter... God forbid it ever happened. but if it did say they gave them self the shot...

 

[eyeofrah]

Damn.....Thanks for the help guys

 

[Db52280]

Sweats, coughing, shortness of breath from coughing. Its pretty insane if you have never had it happen before. I always pull back but sometimes you knick one while injecting or on the way out.

 

[dcher002]

we should write to our congress and tell them to pump 5cc of test into the next lethal injection case to see if it will kill them.. then we will know

thats awesome

 

[sjk]

For me it was the coughing and shortness of breath stacked with a huge anxiety attack. All I could think was I guess she's gonna find out now.

 

[eyeofrah]

lol

That is a panic attack cause you was worried about what someone else would think...im talking straight vien inject or nick affects

 

[Digitalash]

take two seconds to aspirate and you won't have any problems, like I said even if you didn't asp. I'd say 99.9 percent chance it WON'T kill you, might be unpleasant but I think you'd be fine

in the articles above death was caused by 500cc's + , one was a study intentionally injecting oil into the veins of dogs to see what would kill them, the other involved subcutaneous injections of olive oil where someone died after accidentally hitting a vein injecting around 1000cc's

I know victor and some others reccomend not aspirating, as long as you're deep into the muscle the chances of hitting a vein are very small

 

[eyeofrah]

digitalash , thanks for your help

 

[vannesb]

Must have been freakin bad luck went to Pen today and as someone said always draw back do 90% of the time and today I did drawed back blood had to move new spot no issues!

 

[brundel]

I got at least a half of my cyp shot into a vein 2 days ago.
Quad shot.
Went in slow with the needle.....Aspirated, started injection...I must have pushed in a bit or pulled out a bit but the plunger all of a sudden when WHOOSH and the whole syringe emptied in about 1 sec.
I thought....FUK.
It felt like shooting anything your body doesnt want.
Light headed
Coughing
shortness of breath.
Mild lung discomfort.....I want to say chest pain but not heart related.

Im fine.
Trained an hour later and hit a new PR.
No worries unless you are already about ready to have some catastrophic event anyways.

 

[Xqshuner]

Hit one in my triceps with 2cc's. I could actually feel it running down my arm into my fingers and back up. Slight pain and burning along with shortness of breath. I think everything seemed worse due to the anxiety of knowing I did hit a vein. 5 minutes later all pain and signs were gone. Scary shit for a bit though.

 

[Digitalash]

Yeah I can imagine the anxiety is probably what makes it so bad. Getting the feeling like you can't breathe or might black out and starting to think you might not make it. Even knowing it won't kill you I still very much don't want to experience it. If you do though would you guys say the best course of action is just to lay down and try to relax, and just wait for it to pass?