How to eat more fiborous veggies

[fufu]

Also when your body is breaking down a tomato, it actually expends more calories than whats in it..

No, it doesn't.

 

[fufu]

I agree with Built, you can eat good food even when you diet strictly.

Just takes a little experimenting and effort.

I've been eating virtually the same meals everyday for 6 months and I still look forward to it everyday.

 

[KelJu]

I agree with Built, you can eat good food even when you diet strictly.

Just takes a little experimenting and effort.

I've been eating virtually the same meals everyday for 6 months and I still look forward to it everyday.

Hahaha, I have been eating the same breakfast for over 3 years. I often it my breakfast meal as my post workout meal, too. It taste as good now as it did 3 years ago.

 

[fufu]

heh, I remember my 12 month bulk where I ate microwaved oats and milk w/ pb, whey and fruit mixed in every morning. Half the time I would force feed the last 1/4 down the gullet. It totalled about 1k calories.

 

[Mclovin]

Ummmâ???¦ wanna explain how that one works?

I pre-plan mine too. I don't see what this has to do with choking down food that could be made to be enjoyable.



I didn't suggest tomatoes were causing you harm, but why eat them with nothing but water when you could eat them in a way that they taste GOOD?

Ummm.. no i dont really want to explain it, you can google it if you like.. search for negative calorie foods..

Obviously i havent made myself clear enough when i say i dislike raw tomatoes in ANY WAY.. not just i need to experiment with menus.. i just dont like raw tomatoes. The end.

As far as making a tomato more enjoyable, see above paragraph.

Given the information you will find if you googled what i suggested, i use a tomato as a tool in my day to day eating, to keep me feeling satisfied if i am a little peckish, without taking up a lot of calories, also it takes longer to digest than it would if i just drank the water alone.. which helps if im at work and cant go and get more water when my glass is empty.

Besides all of that, im hardly the only person in this thread that suggested to just grow some balls and just eat the damn food.. so why target me when i just agreed with what others said? for f*&ks sake im talking about eating a tomato.. who gives a shit if i do or i dont

 

[Built]

Newsflash: when YOU make a claim that a food has a negative calorie value, it's up to YOU to back up your claim.

Don't expect me to go looking for proof of YOUR claim.

I don't know why you feel the need to eat a raw tomato if you don't like them. Why not eat some other food? What's magic about the tomato that you can't replace with something you actually enjoy? You sound like a martyr.

 

[Mclovin]

Wow i feel like i have some annoying child that continually asks 'yeah but why?' after everything i say.. like some kind of game..

You want to know why i feel the need to eat a raw tomato.. well if you re-read my last post, it tells you why, and gives the logic for my decision to do so.

On a side note, i had a close relative tell me that i should eat a tomato everyday to maintain good health.. whether or not that is true, i really dont care, but that is another reason that i eat a tomato each day.. not that i need to justify myself, but are they good enough reasons for your inquisitive mind?

Secondly i dont know what i did in particular that got under your skin, all i said in my original post was to just eat the food.. i didnt say he had to eat it raw or plain or anything, i didnt say he couldnt add flavoring or anything.. i just said eat it, however you do it, just do it, so you benefit from the food.

Im not trying to say i know everything about nutrition, because clearly i dont.. But if your trying to mark your territory as the nutrition moderator or whatever, go pee on someone elses doorstep. At the end of the day your hassling me over a tomato, it seems pointless to me that we're even still talking about it. Im not saying everyone should do it, im not preaching etc, all i did was share my experiences, because as we all know, while the principles are always the same in this game, different things work for different people..

Anyway im gonna leave it at that, and not get myself banned over something so ridiculous, because there is too much good information and knowlegable people on this site, yourself included.

 

[Built]

I love tomatoes.



Ever try the supersweet ones? They're like candy!

Seriously, I'm a really good cook and I hate to see people eating things they don't like. It's just... WRONG lol!

I'll leave you alone. To eat your icky daily tomato. You come to Vancouver, I'll make one taste good for you, how about that?

I would like to hear about these negative foods though. I do understand that tomatoes have lycopene in them, which has anticancer properties, and also pectin, which can be satiating. Other foods have these qualities however - for example, watermelons and pink grapefruits. Also guavas.

Just sayin'...

 

[Merkaba]

supposedly tomatoes and apples, somehow pineapples, somehow watermelon and other veggies and fruits contain so few calories that it costs more to digest and pass them than it actually contains in it. I've read differing views on the concept.

 

[Mclovin]

supposedly tomatoes and apples, somehow pineapples, somehow watermelon and other veggies and fruits contain so few calories that it costs more to digest and pass them than it actually contains in it. I've read differing views on the concept.

I couldnt have said it better myself, here is a list i found on the web of the more common foods belived to be in this 'negative calorie' class:

Fruit
??· Apples
??· Blueberries
??· Cantaloupes
??· Cranberries
??· Grapefruit
??· Lemons
??· Papayas
??· Pineapples
??· Prunes
??· Raspberries
??· Strawberries
??· Tangerines


Vegetables
??· Asparagus
??· Beets
??· Broccoli
??· Carrot
??· Cauliflower
??· Eggplant
??· Onions
??· Celery root
??· Green beans
??· Green cabbage
??· Turnips
??· Radishes
??· Endives
??· Garlic


Salad
??· Cucumbers
??· Celery stalk
??· Celery root
??· Garden cress
??· Lamb's lettuce
??· Lettuce
??· Onions
??· Spinach
??· Tomatoes
??· Zucchini.

Another quote i got from the web to explain it a little differently:

"A food such as Celery for example, does not provide enough calories to digest itself AND keep the body going whilst doing so - The net result is a loss of calories and hence it qualifies as a "negative calorie food"

The info came from: Negative Calorie Food

 

[Mclovin]

I'll leave you alone. To eat your icky daily tomato. You come to Vancouver, I'll make one taste good for you, how about that?

Haha If you could actually get me to enjoy one, it would be well worth the trip lol

 

[DaMayor]

I've heard about these foods over the years, but only considered this possible with celery...maybe iceberg lettuce, since its mostly cellulose and water. But beyond that, there is no such thing as "negative calorie" food.

 

[VanessaNicole]

I usually eat one when im feeling a bit peckish throughout the day, with half to a litre of water and it fills me up. Also when your body is breaking down a tomato, it actually expends more calories than whats in it.. So i use it to fill the gap when im hungry between meals or snacks, and consider it a neutral on my food diary.

I pre-plan my meals for the entire day, so by just having a few nuts, or a light snack etc, can turn a moderate or small deficit into a tiny one.

Besides my parents always used to make me eat tomatos at dinner... thats a good enough reason for me to keep doing it! its certainly not doing me any harm.

If only that were true, my friend.

 

[VanessaNicole]

I couldnt have said it better myself, here is a list i found on the web of the more common foods belived to be in this 'negative calorie' class:

Fruit
??· Apples
??· Blueberries
??· Cantaloupes
??· Cranberries
??· Grapefruit
??· Lemons
??· Papayas
??· Pineapples
??· Prunes
??· Raspberries
??· Strawberries
??· Tangerines


Vegetables
??· Asparagus
??· Beets
??· Broccoli
??· Carrot
??· Cauliflower
??· Eggplant
??· Onions
??· Celery root
??· Green beans
??· Green cabbage
??· Turnips
??· Radishes
??· Endives
??· Garlic


Salad
??· Cucumbers
??· Celery stalk
??· Celery root
??· Garden cress
??· Lamb's lettuce
??· Lettuce
??· Onions
??· Spinach
??· Tomatoes
??· Zucchini.

Another quote i got from the web to explain it a little differently:

"A food such as Celery for example, does not provide enough calories to digest itself AND keep the body going whilst doing so - The net result is a loss of calories and hence it qualifies as a "negative calorie food"

The info came from: Negative Calorie Food

 

[KelJu]

I'm calling bullshit on at leas half of that list. I especially need some proof that those fruits require more energy to digest than you get from them.
Black bears eat those berries as a high calorie snack to help them bulk for winter. Those berries are jam packed with sugar.

 

[DaMayor]

Black bears eat those berries as a high calorie snack to help them bulk for winter. Those berries are jam packed with sugar.

The sugar isn't important. What is important is the magical (and scientifically unproven) characteristics of the foods on that list that make them little thermogenic wonders......Jeeze Kel, don't ya get it?

 

[Mclovin]

I agree totally, if i was going to be eating any of those foods on that list, i would include their calories in the count definately. The only time i dont is when i have a tomato between snacks, and even if it costs the full amount of calories ive gone over my deficit by around 26cals.

I dont support or promote 'negative calorie' foods, i was just giving the info as a response to being asked about it.

 

[VanessaNicole]

I have an idea Mclovin.

Eat, like, 500 calories worth of prunes (which is really not that much) every day.

You'll lose an extra pound per week!

 

[Built]

I dont support or promote 'negative calorie' foods...

Yes you do:

...when your body is breaking down a tomato, it actually expends more calories than whats in it..

 

[KelJu]

Yes you do:

You beat me to it.

 

[fufu]

So basically you are saying a human can't survive on eating only fruit everyday? Give me a fucking break.

 

[DaMayor]

If these foods were truly negative~calorie, then rabbits would be extinct.

 

[Merkaba]

By the way...theres not much better than a good home grown tomato slice on two slices of wheat with mayo and salt and pepper. Fucking with mine is grounds for immediate Ass whipping!!

 

[Built]

If these foods were truly negative~calorie, then rabbits would be extinct.

Spongeworthy.

 

[Lacoste]

Not to brag, but I really enjoy eating vegetables...I can cook up half a bag of them and eat them all, I look forward to it actually. The only thing I add is a bit of pepper! Mmmmmm, mixed vegetables and chicken breast...must be close to dinner time

It's very important to still eat foods that you don't hate eating. It is much easier to stay on a diet plan with foods you can learn to like. You may not crave and love the foods, but you shouldn't be torturing yourself while eating them.

I recently bought a 5lb jug of Natural whey protein...it tastes like I'm drinking ground up chalk mixed with water. Only reason why I bought it is because they were all out of the flavored stuff. Looks like I'm going to have to buy another jug of chocolate mint and make my drinks half natural, half chocolate mint

 

[Jodi]

Spongeworthy.

 

[Bren007]

Make em' tasty

I spill a couple of spoonfuls of Campbell's No Fat soup over my vegetables to make them pallatable. This doesn't do that much damage (I think?) 100g's of canned tuna (in brine or water) with a squeezes of lemon and I'm all set.

 

[Bren007]

error correction

with a few squeezes, I shouild have said

 

[DaMayor]

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[Biggly]

+1 to "If you're throwing everything in sauces and recipes youre probably adding a ton of extra calories".

Negative calorie foods do exist to some extent but not the vast majority of that list (pinapples?!). Also the only way you'll benefit from negative calorie foods is to eat a lot in one sitting with nothing else - that way you'll burn calories "digesting" a large lump of non-event.

Eat em with anything else and it's just extra cals on top, since you're going through the digestion process anyway.

I'm not overly keen on veggies, heck most people aren't, but Built has a good idea there - soup em. Rather than soup I just blend the blighters, like a home-made V8, or bunch a bowl of chopped fresh veggies in my wok just as the chicken is already about done. They are only "cooked" for about 30 seconds, ie long enough to get the flavor from the chicken, herbs, onions or whatever. As every bite of veggie comes with a lump of tasty chicken, it's no biggie.

The main reason for munching fibrous veggies, as opposed to any other kind, is for the fiber, right? I've actually found baked beans work pretty well in that regard


Not sure if it's fiber or gas but they get things moving...



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