bio-chem said:
john your making an issue of how i type? dude its obvious your trying to write a book report with your posts, i keep expecting your posts to come with a title page and bibliography. when i post i take no time to check spelling or even to put it in order. i type it as it comes to my head. and the thing is your putting up a nice smoke screan by not addressing the issues here. celtic boys post to you is common place reaction of the people on this forum. it happens over and over yet you brush it asside like it nothing. his post is representative of how people view you FOR REAL, HONESTLY and TRUTHFULLY. ha ha ha. why not address the issue of my last post. why should i consider the sexual views of a sexual delinquint relevant in my personal love life? as a masochist, kinsey needed psychological help, and maybe pity, not praise. i do not think his books have standed the test of time and scrutiny, because his conclusions are not generally accepted currently either in the scientific community or the real world. oh yeah and "influence" getting into college. im in a private university on my laurels no one elses. i got in on my credentials not daddys coattails. ill be the first in my extended family to attend, and graduate from a university.
Bio,
On the contrary, since I am limited as anyong else I wish I could respond with much shorter information and statements. This is a very large and complicated subject and just taking statements "here and there" out of context is why you are feeling the way you seem to express those feelings. You have not done much research at all on this to be at all credible.
I mentioned your spelling because you are attending a University and working towards a degree(s). So your writing should reflect your improvement in writing abilities. And any that you do will be good practice to make everything you do much better. I was criticized for making even one mistake (I thought it was you, perhaps I do not remember accurately now since it was awhile ago...) - hell, you would have thought the world was going to come to an end because I made one mistake - human beings do do that occasionally but hopefully learn from them.
Sometimes I feel as if I need to put a "title-page" on my writing and have a bibliography of the sources I utilize.
AS FOR DR. KINSEY AND HIS RESEARCH AND HIS BOOKS:
The reason I do not get very specific is that there is a LOT of information in each book - ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED PAGES plus of information. To just "pick and choose" by anyone is wrong. Dr. Kinsey EXPLAINS his methodology in great DETAIL BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT WAS VERY NECESSARY to be credible and that was a part of his methodology BECAUSE HE WANTED HIS WORK TO BE BEYOND REPROACH - TO BE TOTALLY CREDIBLE as nearly as is humanly possible. HE KNEW there would be people questioning and he wanted that questioning because he could see that that would further research in the area of Human Sexuality.
A "child molester" or "child abuser" - he NEVER WAS nor were his fellow researchers. If there was a shred of truth to that it would have been discovered long ago - these works have been under EXTREME SCRUTINY for over FIFTY (50) YEARS. His work was DIRECTED to the medical community, law enforcement, social workers, biologists, teachers, etc. He KNEW his audience and the questions they would rightly ask. He answered them as best as a human being can do. And he welcomed constructive criticism.
From what I have read - if I remember correctly - only about 10% of the information gained from the research has actually been utilized so far - that means that nearly 90% still is available for serious research and is at Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana. The University certainly would never have any association with Dr. Kinsey and His Associates and their work if what they did was not serious and meaningful and helpful research. They named the part of the University that is devoted to Sex Research honoring Dr. Alfred C. Kinsey, it is: THE ALFRED C. KINSEY INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCH IN SEX, GENDER AND REPRODUCTION. They acknowledge the importance and the value and the meaning of his work and any subsequent.
The research library at Indiana University is there for serious research and is one of the largest in the world - the Vatican in Rome, Italy, is said to be larger and contain more. Check out the website for yourself at
www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/ for more information.
As to your questions, the University has itself answered those and it posts that information on their website for all to see. They have the information available directly to them and can speak to the situation directly and accurately. The books also speak for themselves IF a person WILL READ THEM IN THEIR ENTIRELY. Look at the Preface, the Introduction, the Summaries at least, and the conclusions. Then if you want look at the statistics, the graphs, the "meat" of the books yourself. They have stood the test of time and scrutiny from all "corners of the globe". Check into all aspects of any criticism - positive and negative - if you have any concerns. No one is hiding from anyone here. And if you do not like his research do your own in this area and see for yourself how really difficult it can be. Experience the prejudice, the hatred, the bigotry, the bias, the tunnel-vision, the narrow-mindedness - get "bathed" in it and see for yourself. Then, after you do your own research this thoroughly and honestly and accurately, let me know what you then think.
John H.
like some pencil neck who likes annoying bodybuilders?
.Anyway, TBH, I find reading some of the threads in sexual health & open chat forum a good laugh, so I dont really care one way or another myself.
.Poor Eire, will it ever know peace.........
