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No offense but I'm currently training an individual using a method designed to emphasize lactate metabolism (5-7 sets, 30-60 second rest intervals) and he's noting better recovery.
I've trained others in the past with similar methods as well as sprints and noticed similar results.
I've trained others in the past with similar methods as well as sprints and noticed similar results.
Depends on how you define PT. I suppose so.
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no sheet figures lmao
Gopro: To what were you referring then? I was referring to low/moderate-intensity weights (65% 1RM or less), high set volume (5-8 sets) and short rest intervals (30-90 seconds), designed to maximize anaerobic work output without stressing the muscle itself. I consider this method of "interval weight training" to be the same category of work as sprinting, just fyi, with near-equivalent effects on both recovery and fat loss.
Chicken_Daddy: I have some qualifications on paper, yes. But I don't normally mention them because I don't think paper qualifications are an entirely accurate means of judging someone's capability.
I prefer to let my knowledge and results speak for themselves.
Chicken_Daddy: I have some qualifications on paper, yes. But I don't normally mention them because I don't think paper qualifications are an entirely accurate means of judging someone's capability.
I prefer to let my knowledge and results speak for themselves.
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why you have bad breath??
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LMAO, I didn't realize it would cut so deep.........
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LMAO
I was referring to the fact that after one performs a heavy leg workout, the next day should be followed with rest for the legs, not high intensity cardio involving the legs. This would seriously cut into recovery for the legs. In fact, when a natural BBer is training to add mass, I recommend little to ZERO cardio, as recovery ability is quite limited in most, save for genetic freaks, and making further inroads into both local and systemic recovery will hinder overall progress.
The ONLY time I do cardio is about 12 weeks form a show.
As I was saying, provided the working volume is kept within a reasonable range, this work will *enhance* the recovery process, not detract from it. Enhancing anaerobic metabolics and NOT stressing the muscle itself (key point here) will only work to improve the processes occurring.
This is obviously going be a function of diet as well, however while gaining weight the individual should be taking in more than enough calories.
This is obviously going be a function of diet as well, however while gaining weight the individual should be taking in more than enough calories.
If its done in an interval fashion and for a brief period of time, then no it will not stress the thigh muscles in a fashion that will hinder recovery.
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Well tank offered his help I feel I should do the same......did ya want me to give the stool a good kick when yer ready????
LMAO j/k
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lol......ill wait in line
Could not disagree more! Recovery ability is very limited and cardio of any sort is going to cut into systemic recovery regardless. Without systemic recovery you will get nowhere. You can dispute it all you want, but I feel you are dead wrong. If we are talking about natural trainees with normal lives you have to be very careful about overtraining not only your muscles but your nervous system.
I have gained 135 lbs naturally...I think I'll stick to my methods. If yours work for you...God Bless you...
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Could not disagree more! Recovery ability is very limited and cardio of any sort is going to cut into systemic recovery regardless.
I repeat once again. This type of training does not require "recovery." To imply that it does implies that you do not understand what is occurring.
This is simply usage of the glycolytic pathway. There is no "damage" to recover from. Yes more calories are expended but this can be taken care of with diet.
If we are talking about natural trainees with normal lives you have to be very careful about overtraining not only your muscles but your nervous system.
The nervous system isn't involved enough in submaximal training to cause it any form of stress. Certainly not the type you're trying to suggest.
If you were taking the sets to failure or using maximal weights it would be one thing. But weights at 65% of your max not even remotely to failure won't have any effect.
I have gained 135 lbs naturally...I think I'll stick to my methods. If yours work for you...God Bless you...
Congratulations. However I have multiple people under my guidance who have used this method and still use this method, in concert with others, to great success.
Does the fact that you gained 135 lbs detract from these very real and very measurable results?
Could not disagree more! Recovery ability is very limited and cardio of any sort is going to cut into systemic recovery regardless.
I repeat once again. This type of training does not require "recovery." To imply that it does implies that you do not understand what is occurring.
This is simply usage of the glycolytic pathway. There is no "damage" to recover from. Yes more calories are expended but this can be taken care of with diet.
If we are talking about natural trainees with normal lives you have to be very careful about overtraining not only your muscles but your nervous system.
The nervous system isn't involved enough in submaximal training to cause it any form of stress. Certainly not the type you're trying to suggest.
If you were taking the sets to failure or using maximal weights it would be one thing. But weights at 65% of your max not even remotely to failure won't have any effect.
I have gained 135 lbs naturally...I think I'll stick to my methods. If yours work for you...God Bless you...
Congratulations. However I have multiple people under my guidance who have used this method and still use this method, in concert with others, to great success.
Does the fact that you gained 135 lbs detract from these very real and very measurable results?
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Go Pro, we know what your accomplishments are.
We don't need a constant reminder.
We don't need a constant reminder.
Let me explain myself. If you were to train 4 days per week very intensely...meaning, training to failure with multiple sets using heavy weights, yada, yada, yada (a good solid BBing program)...you will be doing yourself a disservice in terms of hypertrophy if you engage in light, medium, intense, interval or any other type of training in your off days. Days off from the gym, unless entering a competition, should be spend resting and NOTHING else!
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Go Pro, we know what your accomplishments are.
We don't need a constant reminder.
No you see you have forgotten where you are PDL...this is Ironmag, where people are friendly and don't mind me talking about accomplishments...this is not WBB where, well you know...
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