Originally posted by willus72
ooh lets get into it! you can talk all the mumbo jumbo crap you want but im still gonna say your full of shit! i dont mean to sound like a dick but ive spent over 2 years of my life addicted to heroin and harmless is not at all the word to use. not even including the mental affects it has on ones body it it is very harmful. 3 of my closest friends have died in the past 2 years from heroin overdoses. that to me is pretty harmful. ive seen huge absesses on people from dirty shit. my girlfriend has od'd died and come back 3 times from the shit. i spent countless nights in the hole in prison detoxing, puking, sweating, cramping, and shitting myself coming off of it. then on a mental note in kills all sence of motivation, self-respect, cleanliness, it basically makes you mentally numb to the world. all one cares about is not getting sick. the night i went to prison i was so sick i got drunk to try to ease the pain. in the combo i ended up in jail with charges of agg assult, simple assult, wrecklace endangerment, assult with a deadly weapon, unlawful restrain, and unlaweful imprisonment. i was 17 years old looking at 7-10 years state time. i apologize if i am a little sensitive to tghis subject but i feel it is the most harmful drug out there. and i can honestly say i have done every drug under the sun. i am speaking from personal experiance not written shit, and not heresay. on top of the effects it physically and mentally has on ones body there are the harms surrounding it. i have been mugged, shot at and beaten trying to cop in the city. so harmful, yes it is. nobody can tell me otherwise. it may be benefitial in medicinal uses but that is to ease pain and nothing else. my girlfriend just had a child with no drugs then shortly after had her wisdom teeth pulled with no drugs because she knows the harm of it. please dont speak wrecklassly, or uninformed. if it is something you want to mess with it is your body have at it, but PLEASE do not spread any rumors that it is harmless because it is VERY harmful! please do not take any offence to this because that is not what it is meant to me. i am just very sensative towards the subject because i personally know the dangers.
OmmmGggggg you obviously missed my point.
When I said Heroin was harmless to the body in actuality, I think you misunderstood me. No, I don't think, I know you did. Withdrawal symptoms, YES THOSE ARE BAD I AGREE. However, what I meant is that biologically Heroin is relatively harmless to the body. Also, when you speak of Heroin being dirty.. not clean.. etc.. thats because it is cut.. want to know why it is cut? Because the black market is not a great place for the exchaning of products... If heroin were legal, there would be no cut, i.e. NO DIRTY, just pure Heroin.
My point with Heroin being used in medical practice was that it would not be used in medical practice if it harmed your body so much. Now, you may say, well just cause they use it doesn't mean its not harmful. Well, wrong again. Heroin works exactly the same way on the body as Morphine, Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Coedine, Hydromorphone.. etc etc etc etc etc and most of the opiates/opiods.
Calling me uninformed? please pm me with you aim name or yahoo or whatever, hell, I will create an account for whatever chat program you may use, to show you just how uninformed I am. I bet I understand the scientific reasons behind drug interactions 10 fold better than you.
Oh, yeah yeah its all written bs right?
Wrong again, I am speaking from experience as well.
First time I did Heroin was well over two years ago.. I've done it multiple times.. so I have experience as well.. and I'm ALMOST certain I have done more drugs than you.. if I haven't, I am still sure I understand the interactions/effects more so.
And once again, I just want to say that when I was talking about Heroin being "harmless" I meant the drug itself and its effect directly, not the addictions, none of the auxillary stuff. Being mugged, that is a result of the drug being illegal, not because the drug is intrinsically causing a mugging.
Don't believe me? If you really want me to, I could pm you some links to some discussions on this very topic, of Heroin being harmless to the body itself DIRECTLY.
And in the same respect, I do not mean to be a dick.
I do respect the fact of what you have been through, drug addiction, especially to a substance like Heroin must be God-awful, but you are mistaken in many aspects.
I mean, can you honestly tell me that you have read any scientific papers/articles/discussions on opiates/opiods ever?
I'm not striking down your intelligence or anything of that matter, I am simply saying that most people don't know anything about drugs, because they believe basically what they have heard through word of mouth. Most have never picked up a book or anything on the subject matter. Reading a DARE textbook doesn't count btw.
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