yeh... right... u can roll your eyes all you want. might not be effective but its true.
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Marijuana and Bodybuilding: The Truth
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brown Peace Signs... Smacked out...
might have been a fake all together... but it was claimed to be EX.. i took em.. i fucked up.. but it wasnt like a Roll
That doesn't mean it's heroin. There are countless things it could be cut with.
Aye!!!
Thank You!
Did you look at the site I gave with heroin dosages?
Do you see how much money someone would lose if they cut their X with heroin?
The pill would be the size of my head if it was cut with heroin to the point where it had any noticeable effect.
let me guess you've had X tabs with coke in them too because they felt more "wirey"
Coke is not active orally either, at least not to any extent where it would matter.
Thank You!
Did you look at the site I gave with heroin dosages?
Do you see how much money someone would lose if they cut their X with heroin?
The pill would be the size of my head if it was cut with heroin to the point where it had any noticeable effect.
let me guess you've had X tabs with coke in them too because they felt more "wirey"
Coke is not active orally either, at least not to any extent where it would matter.
okay ralphie, this thread is getting a little out of hand. im sorry but i dont wish to continue this conversation any longer. you feel how you feel and i feel how i feel. no i didnt look at your link, because honestly i am a drug addict and all this talk is messing up my home life. i would love to discuss this with you further but family comes first. ive given my experiances and advise take that for what you will. and i do pray that you are correct in your studies and nothing bad will come of you or any other users out there. all i can say is maybe i am one of the small percenage that couldnt do it(although look at the percentages here and you will see that this is not so).
as for the ex conversation i used to make it and all i can say that it is very profitable to cut the drug. not because mdma is expencive (omg is it cheap) but because different types of people like different kinds of highs. and alot of the X you guys hear about being cut with heroin and coke usually is cut but with cheaper products such as pharmesutical opiates and caffien, ephedra, etc... and the dont forget that ecstacy can be snorted and injected also. i have come across pills that did very little orally but got me really high when injected.
ralphie good luck withyour studies and if in the future you feel that things might be getting out of hand i am always willing to talk.
as for the ex conversation i used to make it and all i can say that it is very profitable to cut the drug. not because mdma is expencive (omg is it cheap) but because different types of people like different kinds of highs. and alot of the X you guys hear about being cut with heroin and coke usually is cut but with cheaper products such as pharmesutical opiates and caffien, ephedra, etc... and the dont forget that ecstacy can be snorted and injected also. i have come across pills that did very little orally but got me really high when injected.
ralphie good luck withyour studies and if in the future you feel that things might be getting out of hand i am always willing to talk.
Hey bro its all good. As far as I am concerned the reason I post on this board, and I hope this is true for everyone is to help others out with spreading knowledge and experiences so that others may benefit and learn.
I appreciate your offer, but I do not use drugs on a regular basis at all anymore. Last drug I did was ecstacy, which was over three months ago. I haven't even had a beer in the past month or so, (this cutting diet is killing me!!)
However, I'd love to chat with you if you seem to be having some problems, I think I can help alot especially if you need help tapering/withdrawal symptoms.
Pm me with your aim handle or msn or whatever.
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Marijuana should be legalized. It is far,far less destructive a drug then alchohol. Far,far less so then cocaine,crack,crank, whatever you want to compare it to. Weed also has positive medicinal effects, includeing being good from chronic pain. If more people got high and chilled the world would be a beter place...........take care..........Rich
I don't disagree, but you have just sparked quite the controversy. If you noticed how long this thread dragged on previously, then you knew what you were getting into.
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Well cow I have a unique perspective. Both from having grown up in the 70s and haveing been a Policeman for over 20 years. I have observed the connection between reefer and crime to be about nil. In fact the only connection comes from the fact its been criminalized in the first place. People dont smoke weed and commit crimes and the medicinal effect of the stuff is hard to question. On the other hand Ive witnessed the alchohol/cocaine/heroin induced slaughter on our streets way to often.
Alchohol is a terrible drug. No doubt the worst. Myself personaly I dont use any drugs. I gave up drinking a long,long time ago and dont miss it one iota. One of the great benefits of the BB lifestyle is it teaches you to respect your body and not put these poisens into it in the first place But marijuana? Its way down the list as far as destructive drugs go. Every dollar spent to criminalize it is a waste of money. I dont want my kid to use it, then again I dont want him to use alchohol or tobbacco either.
For 20 years Ive been basically in an on-going narco-war with ganstas and assorted drug dealers. Im in favor of decriminalizeing marijuana in order to concentrate on the real dangerous drugs, most of all cocaine,crank, and heroin. Ive always thought we should put the major importers of this stuff on ole sparky and fry them like bacon.
But marijuanas different. We shouldnt be spending precious resources on it...............take care..........Rich
Alchohol is a terrible drug. No doubt the worst. Myself personaly I dont use any drugs. I gave up drinking a long,long time ago and dont miss it one iota. One of the great benefits of the BB lifestyle is it teaches you to respect your body and not put these poisens into it in the first place But marijuana? Its way down the list as far as destructive drugs go. Every dollar spent to criminalize it is a waste of money. I dont want my kid to use it, then again I dont want him to use alchohol or tobbacco either.
For 20 years Ive been basically in an on-going narco-war with ganstas and assorted drug dealers. Im in favor of decriminalizeing marijuana in order to concentrate on the real dangerous drugs, most of all cocaine,crank, and heroin. Ive always thought we should put the major importers of this stuff on ole sparky and fry them like bacon.
But marijuanas different. We shouldnt be spending precious resources on it...............take care..........Rich
Based on my own observations as well as many others, as you say marijuanua isn't destructive in the sense that it induces you to commit crimes or violence like many of the other drugs such as alcohol. Marijuana robs you of motivation. It turns a somewhat productive person into a lazy carefree person. Now of course there are always exceptions to this, but I am speaking again in reference to my own observations. I've seen many with pretty decent grades in school drop down to F's. Why? Not that they weren't capable of getting good grades. Because they made weed their lives and it clouded their brain making them lazy and not caring about how they looked, their grades in school, and many other things. Now I know the smokers will definately argue with me, but that is the affect that I witnessed first hand.
Now of course those using marijuana in a recreational manner would not experience this affect to this degree.
Now of course those using marijuana in a recreational manner would not experience this affect to this degree.
I'm not going to argue that this isn't the case for some people. However, most people that do this turn their lives around later and realize their mistakes. One of the great things about marijuana is it's low incidence of addiction. People are willing to give it up, or at least moderate usage, if they realize it interferes with their lives.
I think the reason people are willing to give it up so easily is because weed sucks! The high blows!
haha sorry, I really dislike the high it gives...
haha sorry, I really dislike the high it gives...
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I think the reason people are willing to give it up so easily is because weed sucks! The high blows!
haha sorry, I really dislike the high it gives...
I certainly like it, but I also respect your opinion. I don't like getting drunk too often. A lot of people I know really like it, but I don't. Personal preference is very important.
Do you think that part of the excuse of marijuana being a gateway drug is all of the misinformation that is put out there by the "War on Drugs", etc?
When a kid tries it for the first time and discover all of the lies that were told to him - that it is horrible, it kills, etc,etc - it is easy to make the assumption that information about the other drugs were lies too.
Whatever. Most of the people I know who were serious potheads have mellowed out. They rarely smoke anymore, for a variety of reasons.
Although I haven't smoked in over a year and seriously for over three years, I still think that there is nothing more relaxing than the 3B method of relaxation. A book, bubble bath, and a bowl. A small slice of heavenly relaxation.
When a kid tries it for the first time and discover all of the lies that were told to him - that it is horrible, it kills, etc,etc - it is easy to make the assumption that information about the other drugs were lies too.
Whatever. Most of the people I know who were serious potheads have mellowed out. They rarely smoke anymore, for a variety of reasons.
Although I haven't smoked in over a year and seriously for over three years, I still think that there is nothing more relaxing than the 3B method of relaxation. A book, bubble bath, and a bowl. A small slice of heavenly relaxation.
This is the one thing im trying to figure out... Does weed really make you a bloated pig? I have heard that it traps water between your skin/Fat and muscles therefor making you look friggin fat. I was trying to find some Factual information on it but cannot.
I never heard that consuming marijuana will cause you to trap water between your skin, fat, and muscles making you look fat... I think it is more of the result of the fact that it causes you to get the munchies and eat everything in sight. This will most definately cause you to get fat 
Yeah I was a bean pole too
And at the early age that I smoked, my metabolism would burn off all the food I ate on my munchy rampage
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Just my 2 cents...
1) There is a correlation between smoking dope and using other drugs. Is there a causation, however? No, I don't think so. I agree with the earlier poster that mentioned it being a gateway to meeting people that use other things, however. But the drug itself does not cause you to use something else directly.
2) Making a barbeque pit out of your lungs is bad. Period. I don't buy anyone who says it's harmless to your lungs. Is it as bad as tobacco? Probably not. Anyone who has taken a bong hit off a cigarette knows the truth.
3) Legalizing, taxing, and regulating all currently illicit drugs is worth trying. Your grandma is not going to go out and do coca just because it became legal to obtain. Neither would I. The few that would be silly enough to do that just because the guvumit gave them a green light? Social darwinism in action. That problem will solve itself.
4) Smoking dope effects different people in different ways. Some are more prone to become mentally addicted than others. I've known people that did good in school on it and others that allowed it to completely interfere with other responsibilities in life. This is a gray area.
Just a few thoughts, I know some of this was touched on already.
1) There is a correlation between smoking dope and using other drugs. Is there a causation, however? No, I don't think so. I agree with the earlier poster that mentioned it being a gateway to meeting people that use other things, however. But the drug itself does not cause you to use something else directly.
2) Making a barbeque pit out of your lungs is bad. Period. I don't buy anyone who says it's harmless to your lungs. Is it as bad as tobacco? Probably not. Anyone who has taken a bong hit off a cigarette knows the truth.
3) Legalizing, taxing, and regulating all currently illicit drugs is worth trying. Your grandma is not going to go out and do coca just because it became legal to obtain. Neither would I. The few that would be silly enough to do that just because the guvumit gave them a green light? Social darwinism in action. That problem will solve itself.
4) Smoking dope effects different people in different ways. Some are more prone to become mentally addicted than others. I've known people that did good in school on it and others that allowed it to completely interfere with other responsibilities in life. This is a gray area.
Just a few thoughts, I know some of this was touched on already.
Riptide,
Marijuana being a gateway drug is psychological. The drug itself does not promote other drug use, it is the psycological attributes.
Of course not everyone who smokes or smoked marijuana will try other drugs, but many will or have. I believe that any drug can be a gateway to other things psychologically speaking. It only makes sense. If you like a feeling, you may try other things as an experimentation to get a similar or better feeling.
Now I am not knocking marijuana, it has many positive benefits. As many have already brought up I think there are much worse things out there. It is funny how alcohol can be legal and cause so many deaths by those who abuse it than marijuana could ever do.
Now is it bad for your lungs. Sure! I believe that any smoke or contaminents put in the lungs is bad. I haven't studied this in detail but common sense tells me it is harmful. It is just that most people don't smoke enough marijuana to compare to the damaging lung effects of cigarettes. Most average cigarette smokers who are addicted smoke on an average of a pack a day where a marijuana user may smoke 1 joint or 2 in a day. Now I have heard some people say that studies have found that 1 joint can be as damaging as a pack of cigarettes, but have never seen facts supporting that. But my point is that if you put smoke of any kind in your lungs how can anyone say that is good for them I don't think even GR would argue that. 
Marijuana being a gateway drug is psychological. The drug itself does not promote other drug use, it is the psycological attributes.
Of course not everyone who smokes or smoked marijuana will try other drugs, but many will or have. I believe that any drug can be a gateway to other things psychologically speaking. It only makes sense. If you like a feeling, you may try other things as an experimentation to get a similar or better feeling.
Now I am not knocking marijuana, it has many positive benefits. As many have already brought up I think there are much worse things out there. It is funny how alcohol can be legal and cause so many deaths by those who abuse it than marijuana could ever do.
Now is it bad for your lungs. Sure! I believe that any smoke or contaminents put in the lungs is bad. I haven't studied this in detail but common sense tells me it is harmful. It is just that most people don't smoke enough marijuana to compare to the damaging lung effects of cigarettes. Most average cigarette smokers who are addicted smoke on an average of a pack a day where a marijuana user may smoke 1 joint or 2 in a day. Now I have heard some people say that studies have found that 1 joint can be as damaging as a pack of cigarettes, but have never seen facts supporting that. But my point is that if you put smoke of any kind in your lungs how can anyone say that is good for them
I don't think even GR would argue that. Riptide
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Some people seem to have better control over themselves than others. While I have not exhibited such control at all stages of my life, I have been able to dismiss a few bad habits here and there. I changed my body dramatically in six months (went from a pudgy 220 to a lean 155). I have used cocaine and methamphetamine on a very few sparse occasions in my past but I didn't see what the big allure was. I haven't touched either in years. Yet somehow some people seem to get hooked, and hooked *quick*.
Agreed
I'v been smoking weed since the spring i turned 10 and will be 20 this year in october and still smoke it almost everyday and i'm livin breathin proof it isnt a gateway drug, cause i'v never tried crack, coke, haroin, acid, shrooms, x or any other drug u can think of... except that one time when i had surgery on my eye and the docter gave me T3's to take away the pain, but i think the weed helped more than the T3's did
as far as does it help workout? it depends how much u smoke and how good it is, there have been times when i got the best workout of my life, lifting more weight for more reps and more sets, and other times where i was soo damm high i just said f*ck it.
if i smoke 2-3 joints by myself i personally am more focused and can think more clear and can get a great workout, but if i smoke an ounce theres now way i'm gonna wanna lift weights, cause i know i'm too high, unless the bags gone and there's nothing els to do or we have a compitition or something, but i wouldnt be able to do the same weight for the same reps/sets, but every body's different, i know guys who'll smoke half a joint and be totally fried while it takes me 3grams to get past the buzzed state and actually feel high
as far as does it help workout? it depends how much u smoke and how good it is, there have been times when i got the best workout of my life, lifting more weight for more reps and more sets, and other times where i was soo damm high i just said f*ck it.
if i smoke 2-3 joints by myself i personally am more focused and can think more clear and can get a great workout, but if i smoke an ounce theres now way i'm gonna wanna lift weights, cause i know i'm too high, unless the bags gone and there's nothing els to do or we have a compitition or something, but i wouldnt be able to do the same weight for the same reps/sets, but every body's different, i know guys who'll smoke half a joint and be totally fried while it takes me 3grams to get past the buzzed state and actually feel high
Chronic,
You're just repeating points that have been gone over and over and over in this thread already. I just emphasized in my last post these words, "Can Be a Gateway". The key words here is "Can Be!" Naturally not everyone reacts this way. The point that was made is that marijuana "COULD" act as a gateway to other drugs for some people. The same holds true to anything such as alcohol.
Ugggg ohhhhh I'm not going down this road again 
You're just repeating points that have been gone over and over and over in this thread already. I just emphasized in my last post these words, "Can Be a Gateway". The key words here is "Can Be!" Naturally not everyone reacts this way. The point that was made is that marijuana "COULD" act as a gateway to other drugs for some people. The same holds true to anything such as alcohol.
Ugggg ohhhhh I'm not going down this road again
true, but i only started reading this thread cause i thought it had something to do with "Marijuana and Bodybuilding" and was interested to hear other people's opinion's and experiences of how it affected there workout, not cause i wanted to argue about weather it's a gateway drug or not, if i wanna argue with somebody i'm sure i can find someone in this house to argue with.
does anybody els have an expierienced oppinion on "Marijuana and Bodybuilding" and how it helped or hurt there workout?
does anybody els have an expierienced oppinion on "Marijuana and Bodybuilding" and how it helped or hurt there workout?
Then why did you bring up the point about Marijuana not being a gateway if you didn't want to discuss it?
Nobody intended on arguing about that point, it just came up in the conversation.
