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Max amount of daily protein intake

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It works for me and I really don't need a study to prove that. Almost every study done on this subject has another which contradicts it, it's all a vicious circle.
Huh?
 
I have been reading all of these posts and find them very informative. I have updated my information. I guess by the question I asked I kind of miss led you all of you. I am to reduce weight as putting it on has never been a problem. I am also 61 yrs old and retired. I came to this site as I felt that you would be able to lead down the right path as I have never really be on it and you have. I now see hitting a high protein requirement would be hard if you are not trying to increase size, which I am not.
Are you saying you only need protein to gain? I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
As I am more interested in a healthy, lean muscular body because my interest is in martial arts. I am not sure that I can every achieve my goals as I have as medical condition that is always going to be in my way but I will continue to try and achieve my goals as much as I can.
What condition is that?

So once again I thank you for all of the info that you have supplied.
 
As someone who likes larger, less frequent meals, it was good to learn that it is OK to eat the way I prefer. When I was trying to eat "healthy" and "frequently" according to the so-called experts, I walked around starving all day. Small meals do not cut it for me. Cutting back on carbs and eating more Fat and more Protein in a sitting works for me. I just feel more comfortable, and my dietary calories are much easier to control. I struggled for years to eat smaller meals because everyone said that was the thing to do. No more.
 
See that's just it. If you're more comfortable doing six meals, by all means go ahead. I'm relieve to know that if there is any difference at all, it's slight at best - and not worth being uncomfortable for.
 
CT, it was braveand who mentioned "some studies", not you.

Some studies Even says 30-40gr...

If you like to eat the way you do, go for it.

It's just good to know it's not necessary to limit your protein-per-meal, unless of course you prefer it.
 
To Built

I have Myasthenia Gravis. This is a autoammun desease that attacts the skelental muscels. The more you use them the weaker you get and you have to rest to regenerate. This is basicly What happens to a normal person but I would weaken much faster. Now saying that I have researched everything I could and by the use of herbs, minerals, vitamins and supplements such as Creatine, Glutamine and L-Arginine I have made great strides in in the reduce of the affects of the desease. I am to the point that I no longer take any drugs for the desease.

The martial arts (Tai Chi, Qigong and Bagua) are used for not only the art but also for the benefits of the body that have been achieved for over 2000 yrs in China.

Two areas that I am interested in is lean muscle mass and strength training. Where you guys are building large muscel mass and lean bodies that show each muscel definition in great detail and I can appreciate the work, effert and restrain that you use to achieve this. What I am looking for and I may never get it is Lean muscel mass with definition but not the bulk. As to weight gain I have always been on the SEA FOOD Diet. I see food and I put on weight. I has taken me a yr to retrain myself to eat properly and run a deficit of about avg of 1344 cal per day basied on a body weight of 187 lbs. At this time I weigh 265 so the deficit would be higher.

That is where I am at.
 
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I have a good friend with Myasthenia Gravis; I'm sorry you have this to deal with.

How many calories are you currently eating, and what is the breakdown in grams protein, carb and fat?
 
Heard about this on SHR: Vitamin A: The Forgotten Bodybuilding Nutrient

For those for you taking in high amounts of protein, make sure you get enough vitamin A to synthesis all of that protein.
This might be the reason some of you feel over a certain amount doesn't do anything. You just may be Vit A deficient.
 
Interesting.
 
good lord people. shut the fuck up and if its working for you, keep at it. and um.....when it comes to nutrition, lets not argue with Builtm
 
To Built

My Protein 150 to 184g perday (I try for 200)
Carbs 184 average perday (Itry for minimum as possible)
Fat approx 39 g (Itry for minimum as possible)
Once I achieve my body fat of 10% or less I will relook at what I am doing.

I don't eat simple carbs as most of them I can't and the same with fat that is kept to a minimum.

I you have a friend that has Myasthenia and is still on the drugs have him contact me and I will tell him what I have done to get off of them. AT this point I am taking no durgs for Myasthenia and am cooping well. I do use a lot of herbs and supplements. It has taken me over two yrs to get to this point with a lot of research so I maybe able to get some good advice.
 
Thanks - and will do.

Re your fats. I'd urge you to creep those up a bit, for endocrine health. Low fat diets are not healthy for long term dieting. For unassisted males, this is particularly important. I'd suggest creeping it up; modest guidelines are in the range of half a gram per pound lean mass - so around 90-100g for a man your size. I realize you're trying to drop weight, but try to get in at least half that most days while cutting. Personally, I would be happier if I saw your fats no lower than 70g daily. Are you getting in fish oil?
 
To Built

Yes I do take fish oil - 10 gr per day. I will work on the increase in fats.

Thks
 
New Question

I have reduced my sodium and sugar intake to al most nothing. Now I do get some from any canned foods but I have tried to keep it down. Am I hirting myself by doing this. I use Creatine because it has been tested in studies for medical reasons to help increase strength but I don't add anything just mix it in water. Should this have some kind of sugars added in the form of honey, milk, etc.
 
Naw. Just take it with water. Is your blood pressure too high or something? You do need SOME salt.
 
Blood pressure was high but is down now and should go lower now that I don't take any of the drugs anymore. Last time I checked it was 115/64 so I think as I loose more fat the better it should be. As I sweating more I will increase salt. ITs cool here most days and were have the gym and the basement it is cool.
 
Get half salt. It's got potassium in it. Good for blood pressure.
 
To Built

Appreciate all of this advice. Today was the first day that I got a really great workout and as I had more energy and I got a great sweat going.

James3251
 
Glad you had a good workout. To what changes do you attribute the improved performance?
 
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The increase in Fat has caused me to reevaluate my diet and even though I have increased my calorie intake I have also increased my deficit. I guess I bought to much into the doctors advice that you need to reduce, reduce, reduce. I was eating only enough to loose weight but not enough to exercise. So I had trouble staying awake early in the evening, burned out to quick in a workout and was not loosing the weight that I should have been even though they spread sheet said I should be loosing weight. I also have and increase in energy and even though I knew that you had to put it to take it off I listened to much to the doctors. This is the same problem I had when their advice was to use drugs that over time can and will destroy organs.
 
Well, I'm glad you're more comfortable now.

PS if you're falling asleep in the evening and running out of steam, get your testosterone checked, okay? Hubby had those symptoms and it turns out he needed HRT.
 
I did have it check and the doctor said that it was 14 and it was in the center of the acceptable range. Now that could have changed by stoppping the imuran I was on and if anything it would go up.
 
That's total T, right? Did he check free test as well? What's imuran?
 
I'm not sure if he did. I have to tell him what to do or ask the specific questions. He's a bit of a jerk. Imuran is an immune suppression drug to control Myasthenia. This is the same drug that you would take if you had a kidney transplant. It is hard on the liver as many powerful drugs are. That is why I have come up with ways to not require the use of these drugs. Drugs are not the answer they are a necesary evil that you need to stableize with but unfortunatly Dr ( getting kickbacks from the drug companes) continue to use instead of looking at safer alturnatives.

I would be guessing but I probably don't to much free testosterone but I am concerned at this time with taking something that would increase it as like most of my organs are slightly enlarged (Liver, Kidneys, Prostate). At the drugs leave my body and I continue to reduce my weight and get into better shape things should start to return to normal, I hope. This is why I have a great interest and willingness to make these drastic changes to my health. I am going in for a full physical in June to see how I am progressing. I bet that was more than you expected.
 
I have been doing some reading about testosterone and are there supplements that reduce estrogen, increase testosterone and normalize DHT.
 
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