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Mormons face flak for backing Prop. 8

"Religions" often borrow and even outright steal concepts.

The Epic of Gilgamesh was written 3,000 years ago and concept (Great Flood) are in the Christian Old Testatment. Zoroastrianism on Dec. 25th.
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Good point. It's amazing that most religions don't realize this at all. The concept of virgin birth seems to be felt by most westerners to be a unique christian concept but it was a common theme in mystical buddism and hinduism , never to be taken literally, but was a symbolic way of conferring "god like status". I think at one point the Greeks said Plato or socrates were a product of virgin births. I remember reading the gospel of Mark or Pauls book ( can't remember what it was) in Dalat school and reading that jesus had a brother james and even sisters and possibley more brothers. Mary didn't seem so virginal to me after that.



In fact, jesus's life and budda's were so compatible it was a buddist monk that converted my Taiwanese mom to christianity. He told her she could be a good buddist by conducting her life like Jesus. She had just met my American father and her monk felt that conversion would preserve their marriage upon return to the US.

http://samsonblinded.org/christianity/category/from-hinduism-and-buddhism

Of course,he did not know my father was Quaker, and they are universalists and not exlusionists like other christian sects. ( Meaning she could have remained a buddist and still accepted the tenets of quakerism)
 
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I may have it wrong. :shrug:

But how is that bullshit?



Not the truth = Bullshit!

I honestly don't know why Smith decided to have many wives, but to help the poor single young ladies wasn't one of them.


You can help someone without fucking them and making them have your children. Smith's own wife was appalled by the behavior and denied to everyone that he had many wives for years. It wasn't until her son took over the church that she admitted that he had 20 or more wives.
 
Not the truth = Bullshit!

I honestly don't know why Smith decided to have many wives, but to help the poor single young ladies wasn't one of them.


You can help someone without fucking them and making them have your children. Smith's own wife was appalled by the behavior and denied to everyone that he had many wives for years. It wasn't until her son took over the church that she admitted that he had 20 or more wives.

See, this is where you show you don't really know much about them.

Joseph Smith's son never took over the church. That's a spin off of their church. The spin off people said that the males heirs had to run the church. Of course, they changed their minds on this when there were no more males heirs. Now it's a chick.

Have you ever actually read-up on Mormons?
 
Good point. It's amazing that most religions don't realize this at all. The concept of virgin birth seems to be felt by most westerners to be a unique christian concept but it was a common theme in mystical buddism and hinduism , never to be taken literally, but was a symbolic way of conferring "god like status". I think at one point the Greeks said Plato or socrates were a product of virgin births. I remember reading the gospel of Mark or Pauls book ( can't remember what it was) in Dalat school and reading that jesus had a brother james and even sisters and possibley more brothers. Mary didn't seem so virginal to me after that.



In fact, jesus's life and budda's were so compatible it was a buddist monk that converted my Taiwanese mom to christianity. He told her she could be a good buddist by conducting her life like Jesus. She had just met my American father and her monk felt that conversion would preserve their marriage upon return to the US.

From Hinduism and Buddhism « Jesus and Christ

Of course,he did not know my father was Quaker, and they are universalists and not exlusionists like other christian sects. ( Meaning she could have remained a buddist and still accepted the tenets of quakerism)


I like the Quakers a lot. They were very interesting people.
 
That's not fair, I was replying to the dumb shit that some lady told DOMS, not anything you said.

no, dude it's absolutely fair. we've got a couple of people on here posting some ridiculous stuff about mormons because they just plain don't know and have decided to cut and paste from an anti-mormon website or something. Then there is DOMS who isn't LDS, but has spent some time learning a bit about the faith. The second he posts something trying to explain what his understanding is you call bullshit.

Polygamy is not an easy thing to understand. And as a LDS man I'm thankful that it is no longer practiced. I have enough trouble keeping one mormon woman happy. I wouldn't even want to try multiple.

The idea put forth by ignorants that Joseph Smith instituted polygamy because he wanted to go around fucking is as offensive as it is stupid. Just as with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Joseph Smith's life was made more difficult because of this practice. This was not something instituted because he was some sort of sex fiend on a power trip.

From the outside this is an easy subject to pick on. I can completely see why non-mormons would instantly look at this and scream cult. what it comes down to is whether an individual is willing to take the time to learn and understand. To understand polygamy you have to understand Joseph Smith as a prophet. to understand joseph smith as a prophet you have to understand the Book of Mormon as scripture.
 
Then there is DOMS who isn't LDS, but has spent some time learning a bit about the faith.

One of the big takeaways that I got from living around Mormons is this: they don't talk shit about anyone else. So many other religions, including Christians, love to put down anyone and anything that doesn't meat up to their standards. I'm not talking about the rank and file, I'm talking about the leaders. Mormon leaders don't say shit about others.

The only reason that they got involved in Prop 8 was the reason that I stated previously. And that was because some gays were going around and suing churches for not performing marriages for them. So they forced the Mormons to do something to protect themselves.
 
So you lied... this article says it is the second fastest growing faith.

And it is percentage wise so it's wrong. The cult of Neil had one member last year (me) and this year I offically got my first follower so I have a 100% increase which makes my religion faster growing than both the JW's and LDS.

Does your religion allow three-ways? Do you provide the women if I join up? Will there be doughnuts?
 
Mormon theology video's? such as? when it's produced by another sect of Christianity I wouldn't consider it a Mormon theology video. lol.

there are plenty of LDS beliefs that are unpopular. then again when has faith in God ever been popular? there is nothing in the LDS church that is hidden. ask a question about any LDS doctrine and I'm sure you will get a straight answer.

So if I am thinking about joining up, I can go to any temple in Utah and watch any ceremony I want in order to learn more about it?

Like any good cult, the truly weird and twisted beliefs are kept secret, behind locked doors and are only shared with the higher up people
 
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Does your religion allow three-ways? Do you provide the women if I join up? Will there be doughnuts?

My religion allows anything as long as it is consentual and doesn't hurt others.

I can't provide the women but I could provide doughnuts
 
My religion allows anything as long as it is consentual and doesn't hurt others.

I can't provide the women but I could provide doughnuts

God-damn Canadians never forget about there doughnuts.
 
So if I am thinking about joining up, I can go to any temple in Utah and watch any ceremony I want in order to learn more about it?

Like any good cult, the truly weird and twisted beliefs are kept secret, behind locked doors and are only shared with the higher up people

LOL. before a temple is dedicated it is open to the public. mormon or non-mormon anyone is allowed to walk through the temple.

there is nothing in the temple that goes on that isn't public knowledge
 
So if I am thinking about joining up, I can go to any temple in Utah and watch any ceremony I want in order to learn more about it?

Like any good cult, the truly weird and twisted beliefs are kept secret, behind locked doors and are only shared with the higher up people

I asked what they do in the temples. It's not a secret. :shrug:

They do baptisms for the dead and they get married there. You can even look this up on the Interweb from people that hate that church.

The reason that just not anyone can walk in is because it's a place they go to commune with God and they don't want some random person from blowing the spiritual mood.
 
LOL. before a temple is dedicated it is open to the public. mormon or non-mormon anyone is allowed to walk through the temple.

there is nothing in the temple that goes on that isn't public knowledge

You beat me to it. Now I have to hate you. I lost at the Internet. :mad:
 
You beat me to it. Now I have to hate you. I lost at the Internet. :mad:
dude, you always crack me up. trust that i am but an amateur in your world, just trying to keep up
 
Oh, so it is only important if YOU post it, eh? Belittling DaMayor's comments?:shrug: Okay. Okay. Alrighty then. :grumble:

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:hehe:

well.....yea :shrug:


lol
 
See, this is where you show you don't really know much about them.

Joseph Smith's son never took over the church. That's a spin off of their church. The spin off people said that the males heirs had to run the church. Of course, they changed their minds on this when there were no more males heirs. Now it's a chick.

Have you ever actually read-up on Mormons?

Articles here and there, and a few documentaries. I am no theologian or expert on Mormons. I feel confident that I know as much about LDS as you know about Islam.
 
Articles here and there, and a few documentaries. I am no theologian or expert on Mormons. I feel confident that I know as much about LDS as you know about Islam.

I highly doubt it.

Have you read the book of Moron? No? Well, I've read parts of the Qur'an. I've gone to many pro-Muslim sites looking for insight into who they are.

Just because I don't like Muslims doesn't mean that I have tried to.
 
I've watched a couple episodes of Big Love when I was too lazy to change the channel, I am now an expert....
 
How interesting.

The topic of the thread is not about Mormon theology and beliefs, anymore.

How convenient.
 
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How interesting.

The topic of the thread is not about Mormon theology and beliefs, anymore.

How convenient.

the original topic was never about mormon theology or beliefs. you've witnessed the power of the internet. discussions moving in different directions :thumb:
 
No one has answered this question:

Mormons believe Jesus Christ went to the current day USA and tried to convert the Native Americans after being crucified and resurrection.

Does anyone agree with this?
 
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