Need help with Cytomel and Clen HCL stack

[andyo]

hey there,

I just recieved my stack of Cytomel and Clen HCL and want some help.

My stats are as follows:
Wt: 160
Ht: 5'6"
BF: 10%

Hear me out here, I am perfectionist at heart, and just want to give this a shot.

How do I take the stack?
Thank you

 

[LAM]

are you going to be using some type of AAS or PH/PS while taking the T3 ?

 

[andyo]

Not planning on it, as a fitness model, I need to retain that muscle tissue obviously, but I grow and lose so easy anyway, any suggestions?

Plus, any ideas at ibenutrition.com? Should I get the straight Clenbuterol or The Clenbuterol/Ketotefrin?

Thanks

 

[LAM]

I would get the clen and keto combo that way you don't have to cycle it 2 week on and 2 weeks off you can just run it straight. if you aren't going to be supplementing with any androgens I wouldn't go any higher than 50 mcg/ED with the T3, and even that may be a little high. T3 is extremely catabolic. so if you start to get weaker you are probably losing some LBM. I would get in at least 40% of your cals from protein...

 

[Pirate!]

I like IBE, but the keto I got from them did nothing more than empty my wallet.

 

[andyo]

So if you could,

Please explain it per day for me in the following formula:

Clen: am dose: Pm dose:

T3: am dose: PM dose:

Sorry to be such a pain in the ass

 

[andyo]

Could you simply spell it out for me as such then:

CLEN: AM: PM:

t3: AM: PM:

Sorry to be such a pain in the ass

 

[Tha Don]

sorry this thread has just cracked me up!

i wonder how he got on with his cycle?

 

[Tha Don]

I like IBE, but the keto I got from them did nothing more than empty my wallet.

so your saying keto = useless?

surely 2 weeks of clen at a time is enough! considering all the sweating, shaking and other sides from clen, i don't know why you'd want to run it for a long period of time, surely you'd be better off with a low dose of t3 instead

 

[Pirate!]

The shaking and other clen sides seem to improve somewhat during the cycle--unless you continue to up the dose the whole time. The Keto I got from IBE did nothing for me, and many people seem to have the same experience with other keto products. The widely held opinion is that good Keto does work and that the best way to tell if the clen is still working is by monitoring your body temp--which I didn't do.

Here are two good reads on it:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=148950&highlight=ketotifen
http://www.healthandfitnesstalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4270&highlight=ketof*

 

[Tha Don]

wow, those articles make keto seem pretty awesome! drastically improving the effectiveness of both ECA and clen, and allowing you to run clen for as long as you want

i might have to try some

 

[darklight]

dunno about eca, but surelly keto does improve clen effectiveness and specially for cleaning the receptors allowing to run clen for indetermined periods of time!

 

[Robboe]

I would get the clen and keto combo that way you don't have to cycle it 2 week on and 2 weeks off you can just run it straight. if you aren't going to be supplementing with any androgens I wouldn't go any higher than 50 mcg/ED with the T3, and even that may be a little high. T3 is extremely catabolic. so if you start to get weaker you are probably losing some LBM. I would get in at least 40% of your cals from protein...

T3 upregulates the adrenoreceptors, so he probably doesn't need keto.

What he does need is a head check. Using thyroid hormone without a clue. What a prat.

 

[andyo]

Yo, TCD that's why I asked for help in taking it, I know HOW it works dumbass, just curious about dosages..give a guy a break aholes!

 

[Pirate!]

Yo, TCD that's why I asked for help in taking it, I know HOW it works dumbass, just curious about dosages..give a guy a break aholes!

Hey, we were all trying to help. You come on here like a fucking retard and say

Could you simply spell it out for me as such then:

asking us to do your homework and hold your hand. Fucking idiot. People use their knowledge and spend there time trying to help you understanding the most important issue, and you start flamming those giving their time to help you because no one was willing to completely design an exact T3/Clen cycle. Do your own fucking homework and watch who you flame. You won't get anymore help now. Might as well unregister and go back to bodybuilding.com you disrespetful prick.

 

[andyo]

Yes, Pirate, I was asking for your help because I had never used before, but since you cannot help me out yet instead flame me before I get an answer, I might as well go over to BB.com or wherever cause they are probably all smarter than you anyways.

All I asked for to begin with was a cycle on how to set them up and run it, not to get laughed at. And since you a**holes can't grow up and simply help someone, simply F*ck off! Bunch of F*cktards anyway.

 

[Pirate!]

You will be sorely missed.

 

[Tha Don]

 

[Robboe]

Yo, TCD that's why I asked for help in taking it, I know HOW it works dumbass, just curious about dosages..give a guy a break aholes!

The fact that you purchased your stuff before even knowing how to use it makes you the cluefuck. If you said you were thinking of trying some T3/clen but were unsure of how to use it, you wouldn't have got these types of replies.

 

[crash]

Hope I'm not setting myself up for this one, but I have taken T3 before and pills were red/orange looked almost like a small advil. The next batch I got they were white looked like a ephedrine pill but a little smaller. I don't feel like it works as well. I was told they are 50mcg a piece is it possible that they are a lower dose per pill. If you don't take an androgen with them can you use a cortisol blocker and increase protein intake to combat the potential atrophy? I just got off a test cycle and don't want to give myself a break from the test.