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Danilee,
Wish you the best with your sig. other. I agree that men usually don't overdo the emotions, but we are men and that is what we are like.
I am not one for gear, but if that is what you decide you have to be happy with it. I would like to say that you commented you want to take it to the next level, but is there another level after that and another after that. You are an incredibly beautiful young lady, and as you mention you make some good money. I don't understand why you would do something that is not exactly the most healthy thing to do. Is it to win the competitions. Are these competitions that important.
My new trainer is female and is on steroids, there is a pic of her in my journal if you want to look.
Hope I haven't said anything wrong, just putting in my 2 cents.
Wish you the best with your sig. other. I agree that men usually don't overdo the emotions, but we are men and that is what we are like.
I am not one for gear, but if that is what you decide you have to be happy with it. I would like to say that you commented you want to take it to the next level, but is there another level after that and another after that. You are an incredibly beautiful young lady, and as you mention you make some good money. I don't understand why you would do something that is not exactly the most healthy thing to do. Is it to win the competitions. Are these competitions that important.
My new trainer is female and is on steroids, there is a pic of her in my journal if you want to look.
Hope I haven't said anything wrong, just putting in my 2 cents.
Hey Dani thanks for opening up to us. I do it all the time and have never felt like I needed to go back and delete it. It's a vent, a rant and sometimes a plea for some help or understanding. In someway everyone here becomes like family, a supportive, unopinionated family that most or all of us never had. It's almost like being in a confessional.. I can talk but I can't see who I'm talking to... except here I don't haveto feel guilty for masturbating LOL
You definately come off as very bright girl who knows what she would like out of life and wieghs the sacrifices that might have to be made. Sometimes you just have to jump and make the best of whatever landing you get, sometimes its hard cement and other times is a feather bed..
You definately come off as very bright girl who knows what she would like out of life and wieghs the sacrifices that might have to be made. Sometimes you just have to jump and make the best of whatever landing you get, sometimes its hard cement and other times is a feather bed..
Danilee,
I was actually commenting on how much i dont know about gear. I was not saying that you thought i was nieve. Email and messages over the net are hard to read sometimes.
Well i am not sure i will ever really understand why people do gear, but thanks sharing your reasons why. I believe that if i cant find 3 other reasons for competing or doing gear (other than for winning a comp. or looking better) then its isnt for me. I want to have kids later on in life, and would never fuq with my hormones that way. I do not look down at anyone who does them though, i just find it hard to understand. Kelly Ryan is my favorite Fitness pro and although she did not get that way from just wroking out and eating right, i still admire her. Kary Odiatu is a new Canadian fitness pro and she competed in the 2002 Arnold Classic and New York pro show this year. She is a friend of mine and i know for a fact that she does not do gear. I have seen her struggle with being one of the only clean and boob free women on stage before, and it must not be easy.
Anyways.
I have been to Hawaii before and i look at it as "a fantasy land". It is the most beautiful place i have ever seen, and hope to go back soon. A friend of mine goes to University of Honolulu (i think thats right).
Well i hope you have a great weekend and i cant wait to see what kind of gains you make in the coming monthes.
I was actually commenting on how much i dont know about gear. I was not saying that you thought i was nieve. Email and messages over the net are hard to read sometimes.
Well i am not sure i will ever really understand why people do gear, but thanks sharing your reasons why. I believe that if i cant find 3 other reasons for competing or doing gear (other than for winning a comp. or looking better) then its isnt for me. I want to have kids later on in life, and would never fuq with my hormones that way. I do not look down at anyone who does them though, i just find it hard to understand. Kelly Ryan is my favorite Fitness pro and although she did not get that way from just wroking out and eating right, i still admire her. Kary Odiatu is a new Canadian fitness pro and she competed in the 2002 Arnold Classic and New York pro show this year. She is a friend of mine and i know for a fact that she does not do gear. I have seen her struggle with being one of the only clean and boob free women on stage before, and it must not be easy.
Anyways.
I have been to Hawaii before and i look at it as "a fantasy land". It is the most beautiful place i have ever seen, and hope to go back soon. A friend of mine goes to University of Honolulu (i think thats right).
Well i hope you have a great weekend and i cant wait to see what kind of gains you make in the coming monthes.
Today went pretty well....Yes, I know lots of PB in here again, but at work all I can eat is pro shakes, and They can't be in a fridge, so I thought cream would go bad, so used PB...On the flax, there is no store near me that puts their flax in the fridge...I know that at the health food store 45 mins away they have some udos refridg. So I will get some when time permits..Until then I will have to make do with pb in my shakes at work...Cream at home...
What is so bad about eating alot of pb if indeed you don't eat too many cals? I know there is an allergen in PB, I think it is call AFLATOXIN not sure if I spelled that right...It is in peanuts, and it grows on all peanuts in the silos on the farm sight...Many people are allergic, but I don't seem to have a problem...But just like lactose, I don't have a problem with that either, I think everyone may hold a little extra water when they eat a highly allerginic food, just that you really can't notice it unless you are super lean and shredded...
Meal 1
2 scoop des whey
3 tbs cream
meal 2
tuna 7oz
1.5 tbs mayo
salad
meal 3
6 whites
1 yolk
1 oz cheddar cheese
meal 4
2 scoop des whey
1.5 scoop pb
meal 5
2 scoop des whey
1.5 scoop pb
meal 6
.5 scoop des whey
6 whites
1.5 scoop pb
Yes, not many veggies in here either...I LOVE VEGGIES, but they kind of are a NO NO on the work days...Gas, and bloating in the evening just comes with eating a few cups of veggies with meals during they day...does not feel good
so, during my off days, I eat like 6-8 cups, but morning of workdays I stay away.
No training today, worked...danced on stage for about 2 staight hours, no crazy flips or anything, but a couple splits and kicks...We don't dance all crazy here, just more like club dancing, but more sexy...in one spot most of the time....hell on the knees
Things are going well...Think I might go to the Hawaiian Islands bb show tommorrow(blow off work ) Ronnie Coleman and Kelly Ryan are guest posing. Never seen Ronnie up close before should be fun.
OH my numbers today are
1909 carb 36 fat 98 pro 241
What is so bad about eating alot of pb if indeed you don't eat too many cals? I know there is an allergen in PB, I think it is call AFLATOXIN not sure if I spelled that right...It is in peanuts, and it grows on all peanuts in the silos on the farm sight...Many people are allergic, but I don't seem to have a problem...But just like lactose, I don't have a problem with that either, I think everyone may hold a little extra water when they eat a highly allerginic food, just that you really can't notice it unless you are super lean and shredded...
Meal 1
2 scoop des whey
3 tbs cream
meal 2
tuna 7oz
1.5 tbs mayo
salad
meal 3
6 whites
1 yolk
1 oz cheddar cheese
meal 4
2 scoop des whey
1.5 scoop pb
meal 5
2 scoop des whey
1.5 scoop pb
meal 6
.5 scoop des whey
6 whites
1.5 scoop pb
Yes, not many veggies in here either...I LOVE VEGGIES, but they kind of are a NO NO on the work days...Gas, and bloating in the evening just comes with eating a few cups of veggies with meals during they day...does not feel good
so, during my off days, I eat like 6-8 cups, but morning of workdays I stay away.No training today, worked...danced on stage for about 2 staight hours, no crazy flips or anything, but a couple splits and kicks...We don't dance all crazy here, just more like club dancing, but more sexy...in one spot most of the time....hell on the knees
Things are going well...Think I might go to the Hawaiian Islands bb show tommorrow(blow off work
) Ronnie Coleman and Kelly Ryan are guest posing. Never seen Ronnie up close before should be fun.OH my numbers today are
1909 carb 36 fat 98 pro 241
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Hey Danilee, glad to hear you had a nice day! It should be fun skipping work and hitting the BB show, take some pics for us
I'm not sure if your man is in the Navy or some other service... but if he is, it can be a pretty hard life. Not knocking it, but if he is ship bound then it is possible that he'll be away a good amount of time. The military isnt easy on ones personal life. If he is in another service it is somewhat different. My brother is an army officer (I'm just a Navy grunt ) and he spends a good bit of time away from his wife. He got married about a year ago and became an officer about a month after that. Since then he has probably been home about 1/2 that time (of course he is a new O so they stepped on a bit, over time its not so bad). Anyways, I'm sure you will do whats right for you
Diet looks good! Too bad no veggies though. Think I'm going to go home and make a stir fry.
Have a good day tomorrow.
I'm not sure if your man is in the Navy or some other service... but if he is, it can be a pretty hard life. Not knocking it, but if he is ship bound then it is possible that he'll be away a good amount of time. The military isnt easy on ones personal life. If he is in another service it is somewhat different. My brother is an army officer (I'm just a Navy grunt
) and he spends a good bit of time away from his wife. He got married about a year ago and became an officer about a month after that. Since then he has probably been home about 1/2 that time (of course he is a new O so they stepped on a bit, over time its not so bad). Anyways, I'm sure you will do whats right for you Diet looks good! Too bad no veggies though. Think I'm going to go home and make a stir fry.
Have a good day tomorrow.
Eggs,
Hi, and thanks for the post...Actually my sig other IS AN ARMY OFFICER TOO...funny small world...He is only in because westpoint gave him a free education and he is giving back his 6 years I know first hand about the navy...One good thing is officers make a bit more money and it does go a long way with quality of life..
I used to be married to an enlisted navy man, was pretty poor, and he would go out to sea, for 6 month tours(and we lived in guam, a island that was 16 by 30 miles long)...THAT WAS TOUGH
..
I found a beautiful man in the one I am with now, and we do intend to marry...It is the POLITICS of MY JOB, that are causing problems...His CHARACTER is judged upon promotions, and if I am busy entertaining his soilders at the local bar it can cause huge problems if we were married(there are certain rules of conduct an officer has to follow as well as military law, that is more stricltly enforced on officers)...I kind of have to choose...I don't have alot of an education, and at this point I kinda of like the entertainment aspect of my job(the money helps too He can't affored to just put me in school full time, so I WOULD BE THE ONE, waiting tables or what not..(not that there is anything wrong with being a waitress, I did it before) but, I would RATHER do this for now...So, the realtionship is great, but these issues cloud it...Issues that are silly ones in the big game of life and death...
THanks again eggs
danilee
Hi, and thanks for the post...Actually my sig other IS AN ARMY OFFICER TOO...funny small world...He is only in because westpoint gave him a free education and he is giving back his 6 years
I know first hand about the navy...One good thing is officers make a bit more money and it does go a long way with quality of life..I used to be married to an enlisted navy man, was pretty poor, and he would go out to sea, for 6 month tours(and we lived in guam, a island that was 16 by 30 miles long)...THAT WAS TOUGH
..
I found a beautiful man in the one I am with now, and we do intend to marry...It is the POLITICS of MY JOB, that are causing problems...His CHARACTER is judged upon promotions, and if I am busy entertaining his soilders at the local bar it can cause huge problems if we were married(there are certain rules of conduct an officer has to follow as well as military law, that is more stricltly enforced on officers)...I kind of have to choose...I don't have alot of an education, and at this point I kinda of like the entertainment aspect of my job(the money helps too
He can't affored to just put me in school full time, so I WOULD BE THE ONE, waiting tables or what not..(not that there is anything wrong with being a waitress, I did it before) but, I would RATHER do this for now...So, the realtionship is great, but these issues cloud it...Issues that are silly ones in the big game of life and death...THanks again eggs
danilee
OH, and the navy boys are the best ones to party with..My stepfater was navy nuke, and loved his time in...Most Os (the down to earth ones) wish they could be more carefree, and less concerened with apperance....
I love the navy boys when they come into my club after a long sea tour...HUGE MONEY NIGHTS FOR ME>>>>>sailors rule...
I am sure you understand EGGs, just think if you were stationed somewhere and YOUR COs WIFE was dancing on the MAIN stage of the strip joint Can you imagine the heyday you guys would have with that??????? That would be pretty crazy huh...
Take care Eggs
danilee
I love the navy boys when they come into my club after a long sea tour...HUGE MONEY NIGHTS FOR ME>>>>>sailors rule...
I am sure you understand EGGs, just think if you were stationed somewhere and YOUR COs WIFE was dancing on the MAIN stage of the strip joint
Can you imagine the heyday you guys would have with that??????? That would be pretty crazy huh...Take care Eggs
danilee
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Hey Danilee Yep, I fully understand... that kind of stuff doesnt work out in todays military (the dancing part - perhaps 15 years ago it woudl've). You sound like you know what you want, thats cool You know, being a military spouse does offer some incentives for education. I'm not sure exactly what they are in the Army and if it changes per base, but you might want to look into that. Wouldnt be a bad way to get an education!
Whew, not Navy, thats cool. I've had a good time in the Navy, but I would never want to subject my family to this (which is why I dont have one). Of course you know this.
Yep, it the small stuff that gives us the biggest headaches I think. I'm sure you'll work it out fine though
Have a good weekend.
Yep, I fully understand... that kind of stuff doesnt work out in todays military (the dancing part - perhaps 15 years ago it woudl've). You sound like you know what you want, thats cool You know, being a military spouse does offer some incentives for education. I'm not sure exactly what they are in the Army and if it changes per base, but you might want to look into that. Wouldnt be a bad way to get an education!Whew, not Navy, thats cool. I've had a good time in the Navy, but I would never want to subject my family to this (which is why I dont have one). Of course you know this.
Yep, it the small stuff that gives us the biggest headaches I think. I'm sure you'll work it out fine though
Have a good weekend.
Yeah eggs, I know about the education perks, but even with and edu I would still dance now that I have been doing it, get my schooling(if that is what I still want)done with when I have invested a shitload...At that is what us girls make...I don't like painting by the numbers...
Oh and if you don't mind me asking, what is your rate, and where are you stationed...You seem like a kind clear thinking young man to consider what a family would have to go through...The military will ALWAYS come first, no matter how many PERKS they claim are for the families...You are first a formost the Navys, then you can consider family..>Hard? I'll say..
danilee
Oh and if you don't mind me asking, what is your rate, and where are you stationed...You seem like a kind clear thinking young man to consider what a family would have to go through...The military will ALWAYS come first, no matter how many PERKS they claim are for the families...You are first a formost the Navys, then you can consider family..>Hard? I'll say..
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Yep Danilee... thats why I'm getting out in two weeks The Navy is an impersonal organisation and I am a personal kinda guy. 
Hrm, I'm an IT2 (Information guys, but never worked in my rate... long story). Stationed in La Maddalena Italy, small island off the coast of Sardinia (another island). West of Naples about 45 minutes by flight. Ever been over here? I've been to Naples a few times, but its so big... and I just live on a small island. A tad overwhelming
Yeah, dont show me your salary, no doubt I'd feel sick. I'd take up dancing, but I'm incredibly ugly Investing is always cool, never to early or too late to save some money!
The Navy is an impersonal organisation and I am a personal kinda guy. Hrm, I'm an IT2 (Information guys, but never worked in my rate... long story). Stationed in La Maddalena Italy, small island off the coast of Sardinia (another island). West of Naples about 45 minutes by flight. Ever been over here? I've been to Naples a few times, but its so big... and I just live on a small island. A tad overwhelming
Yeah, dont show me your salary, no doubt I'd feel sick. I'd take up dancing, but I'm incredibly ugly
Investing is always cool, never to early or too late to save some money!
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Can throw off your carb count, most people can not stop at 1 tbsp, create an imbalance of n-3's to n-6's, when you're eating peanut butter..you're not eating flax!
Friday I did'nt get a chance to put my food log up, and it did'nt help that I ate an extra meal without counting what was going in..Had about 2200-2300 cals no training...work only...
I decided to adapt w8s and DPs cutting diet for women, to exclude carbs on the down days, and just do the loading days...Not much of a changed really, just less PB, AND I bought me some UDOS at the health food store also got REAL whipping cream, with the 5gms fat at 1tbs...Because w8s suggestion is to cut, I am going to be playing with cals(and yes cutting most if not all the pb ) I am hitting about 2000 a day, atleast that is is the meal plan I posted on my fridge. Very low carb, with the carb ups 2 times a week. I honestly forget about food(well never compeltely) when I eat no carbs...It is an effort to eat as I should, and without those creamy shakes it would be difficult to actually EAT all those cals in REAL FOOD, like chicken and oil(and believe me, I am a HUGE eater, I can eat ALL DAY< HUNGRY OR NOT)...I once dieted for 8 weeks on NOTHING but chicken breast and flax oil after a few days, I was NEVER thinking about food....Carbs seem very addicting to me, just half a cup oats in the 1st meal has me jonesing for more within 30 mins...Not so when I eat some oil instead.... SOOOO, with that said I will post YESTERDAYS meal plan.....and yes, with my blood sugar issues in the past, low carb intake over a lifetime is feasible, as it seems the carb loads DO NOT effect me much, and I see myself being able to cheat on a carb load day and not jones for more and more daily there after.
Meal 1
7oz tuna
1.5tbs safflower mayo
salad
meal 2
shake
1 tbs udos
2 scoop designer
meal 3
7 oz chicken
1 tbs olive oil
salad
meal 4
Shake with 3 tbs cream
meal 5
7oz chicken
1tbs pb
half tbs olive oil butter
veggies
meal 6
shake with 3 tbs cream
2081 cals(had 3 packs of equal sweetner, and half and half somewhere too) 102grams of fat
20 grams of carbs
240 grams of pro
Did legs on sunday(as per w8) and while getting up and training after working the weekend was and IS hard, and I don't want to do it...She was right as my body IS getting used to it...I try to train late and at the same time 9 or 10pm sunday...Feels good I used to just sit on my ass on sundays thinking I needed a cheat meal and a movie or something, but then I was only training like 2 times a week(of course in the past I trained consistanly 6 days) but I thought I was hurting my growth by adding more work to my legs....I see now maybe the weights I was lifting had more to do with meal TIMING and regularity, AND the fact that quads were not getting hit with maximime effort....
Sig other decided that he would like to get on the bandwagon(again) he goes out to the field often and simply CAN"T eat bodybuilding food there, and they have these guys running 7 days a week, sleeping in tents and eating MREs which consist of Nasty space age saltine crackers, HIGH SUGAR LOW PRO MEALS...YUCK, The stuff is NASTY...We started him at 150(5f8i) and he is now 180....Now I went to the bulking thread, and it said for a man at 180 going to 195 in five weeks, and outlined a plan...He is sticking with it for the most part(he wants to compete next year) but he did drink gatorade after PT this morn because he is used to getting like 500 grams of carbs a day I figure this is the first time EVER moderating carbs so blood sugar is going to be a little funky for a few days....
Now, the bulking plans for both men and women, have a supps scheduale that calls for creatine....ME and 2000 or so cals a day, would I just be wasting money taking 5 grams or so a day of it?
danilee
I decided to adapt w8s and DPs cutting diet for women, to exclude carbs on the down days, and just do the loading days...Not much of a changed really, just less PB, AND I bought me some UDOS at the health food store
also got REAL whipping cream, with the 5gms fat at 1tbs...Because w8s suggestion is to cut, I am going to be playing with cals(and yes cutting most if not all the pb ) I am hitting about 2000 a day, atleast that is is the meal plan I posted on my fridge. Very low carb, with the carb ups 2 times a week. I honestly forget about food(well never compeltely) when I eat no carbs...It is an effort to eat as I should, and without those creamy shakes it would be difficult to actually EAT all those cals in REAL FOOD, like chicken and oil(and believe me, I am a HUGE eater, I can eat ALL DAY< HUNGRY OR NOT)...I once dieted for 8 weeks on NOTHING but chicken breast and flax oil after a few days, I was NEVER thinking about food....Carbs seem very addicting to me, just half a cup oats in the 1st meal has me jonesing for more within 30 mins...Not so when I eat some oil instead.... SOOOO, with that said I will post YESTERDAYS meal plan.....and yes, with my blood sugar issues in the past, low carb intake over a lifetime is feasible, as it seems the carb loads DO NOT effect me much, and I see myself being able to cheat on a carb load day and not jones for more and more daily there after.Meal 1
7oz tuna
1.5tbs safflower mayo
salad
meal 2
shake
1 tbs udos
2 scoop designer
meal 3
7 oz chicken
1 tbs olive oil
salad
meal 4
Shake with 3 tbs cream
meal 5
7oz chicken
1tbs pb
half tbs olive oil butter
veggies
meal 6
shake with 3 tbs cream
2081 cals(had 3 packs of equal sweetner, and half and half somewhere too) 102grams of fat
20 grams of carbs
240 grams of pro
Did legs on sunday(as per w8) and while getting up and training after working the weekend was and IS hard, and I don't want to do it...She was right as my body IS getting used to it...I try to train late and at the same time 9 or 10pm sunday...Feels good
I used to just sit on my ass on sundays thinking I needed a cheat meal and a movie or something, but then I was only training like 2 times a week(of course in the past I trained consistanly 6 days) but I thought I was hurting my growth by adding more work to my legs....I see now maybe the weights I was lifting had more to do with meal TIMING and regularity, AND the fact that quads were not getting hit with maximime effort....Sig other decided that he would like to get on the bandwagon(again) he goes out to the field often and simply CAN"T eat bodybuilding food there, and they have these guys running 7 days a week, sleeping in tents and eating MREs which consist of Nasty space age saltine crackers, HIGH SUGAR LOW PRO MEALS...YUCK, The stuff is NASTY...We started him at 150(5f8i) and he is now 180....Now I went to the bulking thread, and it said for a man at 180 going to 195 in five weeks, and outlined a plan...He is sticking with it for the most part(he wants to compete next year) but he did drink gatorade after PT this morn because he is used to getting like 500 grams of carbs a day
I figure this is the first time EVER moderating carbs so blood sugar is going to be a little funky for a few days....Now, the bulking plans for both men and women, have a supps scheduale that calls for creatine....ME and 2000 or so cals a day, would I just be wasting money taking 5 grams or so a day of it?
danilee
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Danilee, if you are using DPw8 bulking plans..the fat will satisfy his carb cravings the way it does yours! No need for sugars 
!
We would like to see 3-4 frozen strawberries in your shakes at this point for more phytonutrients, Vit C , and fiber!
The creatine is totally optional......if you have good energy levels throughout your W/O, and since it causes bloat in some people...I would save it in your bag of tricks for later when you feel depleted from dropping your calories and macronutrients!
DP
!We would like to see 3-4 frozen strawberries in your shakes at this point for more phytonutrients, Vit C , and fiber!
The creatine is totally optional......if you have good energy levels throughout your W/O, and since it causes bloat in some people...I would save it in your bag of tricks for later when you feel depleted from dropping your calories and macronutrients!
DP
DP,
Acutally, maybe my post above was confusing...I am trying to CUT or at least what I call "harden up"...I am about 18-19% bodyfat, and I don't think I should bulk until I am a tad leaner. I am using your cutting plans but without starchy carbs AT ALL except on 2 days of the week..I am wondering if on a cut, and 2000 cals(at 140 or so) if creatine is a viable option?
danilee
Acutally, maybe my post above was confusing...I am trying to CUT or at least what I call "harden up"...I am about 18-19% bodyfat, and I don't think I should bulk until I am a tad leaner. I am using your cutting plans but without starchy carbs AT ALL except on 2 days of the week..I am wondering if on a cut, and 2000 cals(at 140 or so) if creatine is a viable option?
danilee
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Danilee, I know you are cutting....no bananas..I was talking about creatine for you..and the bulking for him!
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Hey danilee! Just read through your whole journal (no, I'm not very busy at work! ) and I really enjoyed it!
You're working very hard and that is very inspiring.. I know I could never handle those working hours.. I can hardly sleep when the sun is up..
When you first brought up the gear-thing I thought "I thought that girl was smart", but after reading your arguments for it, I can really understand were you're coming from! If you decide that's what's best for you, no one should tell you otherwise!
Just want to give you a big
! Keep it up girlie, I'll be following your progress!
) and I really enjoyed it!You're working very hard and that is very inspiring.. I know I could never handle those working hours.. I can hardly sleep when the sun is up..
When you first brought up the gear-thing I thought "I thought that girl was smart", but after reading your arguments for it, I can really understand were you're coming from! If you decide that's what's best for you, no one should tell you otherwise!
Just want to give you a big
! Keep it up girlie, I'll be following your progress! 
Today Went OK...at best...
Ran out of food, did'nt really realize how fast it was going to go with SO and myself eating so much
Had to have 3 shakes instead of the 2 that my meal plan called for, was a little off but no worries...
Not alot of sleep last nigh/morning really, I never get to bed before 5am... I took melatonin, and it seems to make me fall asleep, but it wakes me up alot sooner too...about 5 hours is all I can get on it ...So napped, a bit before the gym, and SO made it there with me, a whole 2days now Well, lets say there have been alot of starts and stops on his side, mainly because he works like 12-13 hours a day,,AND PTs on a daily basis, so he is not always happy to go, but he goes...I would like to somehow schedual things so he feels better, but it really is impossible...He has always been by my side, and VERY supportive of the BB lifstyle, but when we do things together like train and diet, he will let the slightest things knock him off course..I totally understand(hence the work stuff above) but I sometimes don't like to have the energy and motivation for the both of us...Somtimes it is enough to get MYSELF to the gym....Does anyone here have well meaning SOs that do all the stuff with you, but really don't want to? You love them for it, but somtimes I am like "You don't have to compete for me, I love you reagardless" I am totally flattered by his attention, but sometimes it is dragging on my energy....Maybe I should be more grateful, infact I starting NOW am going to be more grateful
Food was a tad high(maybe not, w8 or DP will probably let me know if it was) Cutting, but not doing cardio...I seem to feel like I am thickening in the middle, but I suppose it is about that time of the month...I hope that is the reason I know it takes patience also since I am not HARDCORE cutting for a show, and just trying to lean out slowly that I may not see results as fast as in the past on a diet...
Meal 1
4 whites
1 yolk
4 oz chicken
1 tbs oil
meal 2
shake
3 tbs cream
2 scoop designer
1/2 banana
meal 3
4 oz chciken
4oz steak
1tbs olive oil spread
veggies
meal 4
shake w strawberries and peach slices
meal 5
shake with udos oil strawberrie and peach slices here too!
meal 6
1.5 cups dry oats
1.5 cup frozen berries
1tbs PB
Cals
2450 Pro 228 fat 103 carb 165
Trained Back and Bis
Bent over row 2 warm up sets 3 working of 10-6 reps
Pullups with spotter, failure at 6 reps(no help)2 sets
rev grip pulldown. Failure at 6 3 sets
Bis
dumbell curl 2 sets good form, not quite failure at 10
preacher curl. 2 sets of 6 failure. no cheating
danilee
Ran out of food, did'nt really realize how fast it was going to go with SO and myself eating so much
Had to have 3 shakes instead of the 2 that my meal plan called for, was a little off but no worries...
Not alot of sleep last nigh/morning really, I never get to bed before 5am...
I took melatonin, and it seems to make me fall asleep, but it wakes me up alot sooner too...about 5 hours is all I can get on it ...So napped, a bit before the gym, and SO made it there with me, a whole 2days now Well, lets say there have been alot of starts and stops on his side, mainly because he works like 12-13 hours a day,,AND PTs on a daily basis, so he is not always happy to go, but he goes...I would like to somehow schedual things so he feels better, but it really is impossible...He has always been by my side, and VERY supportive of the BB lifstyle, but when we do things together like train and diet, he will let the slightest things knock him off course..I totally understand(hence the work stuff above) but I sometimes don't like to have the energy and motivation for the both of us...Somtimes it is enough to get MYSELF to the gym....Does anyone here have well meaning SOs that do all the stuff with you, but really don't want to? You love them for it, but somtimes I am like "You don't have to compete for me, I love you reagardless" I am totally flattered by his attention, but sometimes it is dragging on my energy....Maybe I should be more grateful, infact I starting NOW am going to be more grateful Food was a tad high(maybe not, w8 or DP will probably let me know if it was) Cutting, but not doing cardio...I seem to feel like I am thickening in the middle, but I suppose it is about that time of the month...I hope that is the reason
I know it takes patience also since I am not HARDCORE cutting for a show, and just trying to lean out slowly that I may not see results as fast as in the past on a diet...Meal 1
4 whites
1 yolk
4 oz chicken
1 tbs oil
meal 2
shake
3 tbs cream
2 scoop designer
1/2 banana
meal 3
4 oz chciken
4oz steak
1tbs olive oil spread
veggies
meal 4
shake w strawberries and peach slices
meal 5
shake with udos oil strawberrie and peach slices here too!
meal 6
1.5 cups dry oats
1.5 cup frozen berries
1tbs PB
Cals
2450 Pro 228 fat 103 carb 165
Trained Back and Bis
Bent over row 2 warm up sets 3 working of 10-6 reps
Pullups with spotter, failure at 6 reps(no help)2 sets
rev grip pulldown. Failure at 6 3 sets
Bis
dumbell curl 2 sets good form, not quite failure at 10
preacher curl. 2 sets of 6 failure. no cheating
danilee
Nike girl,
Thanks for the reply...I have read your journal as well! You are one pretty girl(I also am totally aware of some of the issues you spoke about, I think most women deemed ATTRACTIVE by the popular media feel like they always have the strict standard to live up to, and obsess if they don't)...I am soooo envious of where you live..It sounds adventursome to travel thoughout Europe...That is my dream ya know. to travel the world, live in the areas for awhile...Learn about customs, food, culture...Europe is on the list, as well as the middle east and asia..I think India is first though...You already have seen alot...Do things very much in that area of the world? Is it kind of like a New Englander going to the deep south, when you travel to other countries? Or is it just not much of a change for someone who has done that all their lives?
What does your boyfriend do that he is away all the time? His job sounds exciting, but I bet the hotel and ALWAYs flying about is very hard on the body and mind as well....
Take Care
danilee
Thanks for the reply...I have read your journal as well! You are one pretty girl(I also am totally aware of some of the issues you spoke about, I think most women deemed ATTRACTIVE by the popular media feel like they always have the strict standard to live up to, and obsess if they don't)...I am soooo envious of where you live..It sounds adventursome to travel thoughout Europe...That is my dream ya know. to travel the world, live in the areas for awhile...Learn about customs, food, culture...Europe is on the list, as well as the middle east and asia..I think India is first though...You already have seen alot...Do things very much in that area of the world? Is it kind of like a New Englander going to the deep south, when you travel to other countries? Or is it just not much of a change for someone who has done that all their lives?
What does your boyfriend do that he is away all the time? His job sounds exciting, but I bet the hotel and ALWAYs flying about is very hard on the body and mind as well....
Take Care
danilee
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Hey danilee!
I'm so glad you've read my journal! Thank's for the compliment.. I hope you're not dealing with issues like that now, cause girl, you're tha bomb!! It must be hard dancing and acting sexy somtimes if your self-confidence is low one day (don't we all have those days? lol)..
You're living in Hawaii and you're complaining?? OMG, I'd switch with you any day! Seriously though, I like living in Sweden, but the weather sux right now.. It's nice to have so many countries around though, I've been to most in Europe.. Every country do have their own culture, even though it's slowly changing over time.. The European union has changed many things..
I've been in US some times as well (3 times) and I really like it there too.. I wouldn't mind living there for some years.. I guess everyone longs for places far away, the grass is always greener..
I'm going to live in Rome for two months starting the 12th of august to study italian.. I've never been there and I'm very excited! You should come visit me!
I've never been to Asia either.. I'd love to go there.. China and Thailand first I think.. My bf was in Beijing some weeks ago and it seemed so amazing!
My boyfriend work at a mobile phone company and have reached a pretty high position the latest year.. He is nine years older than me, so he is a bit ahead of me.. He travels pretty much, and he finds it exciting yet at the same time difficult..
Oh well, I better go! Take care,
NG
I'm so glad you've read my journal! Thank's for the compliment.. I hope you're not dealing with issues like that now, cause girl, you're tha bomb!!
It must be hard dancing and acting sexy somtimes if your self-confidence is low one day (don't we all have those days? lol)..You're living in Hawaii and you're complaining?? OMG, I'd switch with you any day!
Seriously though, I like living in Sweden, but the weather sux right now.. It's nice to have so many countries around though, I've been to most in Europe.. Every country do have their own culture, even though it's slowly changing over time.. The European union has changed many things.. I've been in US some times as well (3 times) and I really like it there too.. I wouldn't mind living there for some years.. I guess everyone longs for places far away, the grass is always greener..
I'm going to live in Rome for two months starting the 12th of august to study italian.. I've never been there and I'm very excited! You should come visit me!
I've never been to Asia either.. I'd love to go there.. China and Thailand first I think.. My bf was in Beijing some weeks ago and it seemed so amazing!
My boyfriend work at a mobile phone company and have reached a pretty high position the latest year.. He is nine years older than me, so he is a bit ahead of me.. He travels pretty much, and he finds it exciting yet at the same time difficult..
Oh well, I better go! Take care,
NG
Isn't she the sweetest Danilee??
Danilee~ just wanted to say HI! (reading thru your journal) and your doing soo great honey!! Keep it up!!
Danilee~ just wanted to say HI! (reading thru your journal) and your doing soo great honey!!
Keep it up!!100 fat 60 carb 211 pro
cals at 2000 today...
Foods are about the same had about 3 tbs pb, but also had udos 2 times today and egg yolks and olive oil, so mixed it up a bit.
It has been about 2 weeks since I started this journal. I believe I "may" be adding bodyfat, hard to say...My waist is thicker(but it may be due to that time of the month due in the next week or so) also, was not eating NEARLY this amount of veggies before, and sad to say I think at the end of the day, it might cause some distention...
I have done cardio maybe 2 times in the past 2 weeks, also, work has suprisingly been less busy, so I have that uneasy feeling of "not burning off this food" I know though that just 3 weeks ago I was carbing up on 5 bagles and burgers 2 times a week, and it may not be enough time to tell..Anyone think I should start cardio? I know I feel GREAT on this diet, my lifts are good, and I feel strong....I am afraid to cut cals, or maybe I am just being silly, and need to wait it out...
I am taking the advice of all here...I feel harder and stronger, but my bodyfat may being going up...Could be water, and that little voice in my(and I am sure others) head that always wants to bail out given the slightest hint at somthing not working...My carb ups these past 2 weeks have had me at about 2500 cals...I do have some anxiety about that...I have not been active besides the training and work, and my body as I said feels good...Something tells me though that the body has to get enough of this food and rest first, then it will show me something
Trained hammies and shoulders today No cardio, no work, just sat on my butt all day reading and on the net.
Yesterday was good food wise also...About 2200 cals, no training, work was slow..moderate activity for about 30 mins or so.
Hope everyone is doing well..
Nike girl, I would LOVE to come visit you in Italy...How many languages do you speak?
danilee
cals at 2000 today...
Foods are about the same had about 3 tbs pb, but also had udos 2 times today and egg yolks and olive oil, so mixed it up a bit.
It has been about 2 weeks since I started this journal. I believe I "may" be adding bodyfat, hard to say...My waist is thicker(but it may be due to that time of the month due in the next week or so) also, was not eating NEARLY this amount of veggies before, and sad to say I think at the end of the day, it might cause some distention...
I have done cardio maybe 2 times in the past 2 weeks, also, work has suprisingly been less busy, so I have that uneasy feeling of "not burning off this food" I know though that just 3 weeks ago I was carbing up on 5 bagles and burgers 2 times a week, and it may not be enough time to tell..Anyone think I should start cardio? I know I feel GREAT on this diet, my lifts are good, and I feel strong....I am afraid to cut cals, or maybe I am just being silly, and need to wait it out...
I am taking the advice of all here...I feel harder and stronger, but my bodyfat may being going up...Could be water, and that little voice in my(and I am sure others) head that always wants to bail out given the slightest hint at somthing not working...My carb ups these past 2 weeks have had me at about 2500 cals...I do have some anxiety about that...I have not been active besides the training and work, and my body as I said feels good...Something tells me though that the body has to get enough of this food and rest first, then it will show me something
Trained hammies and shoulders today No cardio, no work, just sat on my butt all day reading and on the net.
Yesterday was good food wise also...About 2200 cals, no training, work was slow..moderate activity for about 30 mins or so.
Hope everyone is doing well..
Nike girl, I would LOVE to come visit you in Italy...How many languages do you speak?
danilee
Danilee,
I felt the same thing you are feeling, maybe it is from the heavy cream. I know that as soon as i cut of any form of lactose my tummy gets flatter. The heavy cream sure does help to build the muscles though, i swear that thats what did it for me. Are you steaming your veggies or eating them raw? i found that if i ate raw veggies it was alot harder to digest. Hope you have a great day.
I felt the same thing you are feeling, maybe it is from the heavy cream. I know that as soon as i cut of any form of lactose my tummy gets flatter. The heavy cream sure does help to build the muscles though, i swear that thats what did it for me. Are you steaming your veggies or eating them raw? i found that if i ate raw veggies it was alot harder to digest. Hope you have a great day.
w8lifter
Elite Member
No, I don't. Cardio is only going to eat away at your muscle and/or reduce your gains. You do enough cardio at work. If you're going to tweak something I'd say it should be your diet.
I'd w8 a week and drop kcals by 200.
I understand about the cardio, it is just the first thing that comes to my mind when I feel I am putting on some bodyfat...It somtimes seems easier to do that...I kept a VERY lean body always doing cardio, but it drove me CRAZY...It is like you a chained to the machine and you HAVE to do it everyday,if you want to or not, and then you start asking youself..."Am I going to have to do 1.5 hours a cardio a day for the rest of my life to maintain this?" And you asnwer"YES" and see your strength and muscle disappear, time to reconsider...
Well W8 and DP, you are getting a new client in about 15 mins I realize that I always have a lot of doubt when I trust myself on a cutting plan, and it looks like I may be doing something wrong The oulines and tons of info you give out is AWESOME, but even with that EVERYONE has to have his/her needs met on a personal level...Like my job is very differnt from say and office one, and I need guidance!
SO, here I come.
NEW JOURNAL TO FOLLOW.
Well W8 and DP, you are getting a new client in about 15 mins
I realize that I always have a lot of doubt when I trust myself on a cutting plan, and it looks like I may be doing something wrong The oulines and tons of info you give out is AWESOME, but even with that EVERYONE has to have his/her needs met on a personal level...Like my job is very differnt from say and office one, and I need guidance!SO, here I come.
NEW JOURNAL TO FOLLOW.
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We are looking forward to working with you Danilee....your attention to detail and discipline are awesome!
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