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[fatandugly]

what would you suggest as the best exercises to train legs, especially quads, while minimising the impact on the knee's. I have recently been doing some leg extensions but feel it in the knee's and that worries me. I have groin pains when doing squats due to two hernia ops so try to avoid them. Any other ways round it?
Thanks.

 

[Ben dur]

try lunges

i love walking lunges
possibly the single best workout for lower body IMHO
(quads, hamstrings, gluts)
i use dbs, basically because i love dbs for everything

but i have seen people use a barbell


additionally you will not have your legs spread out, so this could be better for your groin

 

[RasPlasch]

try lunges

i love walking lunges
possibly the single best workout for lower body IMHO
(quads, hamstrings, gluts)
i use dbs, basically because i love dbs for everything

but i have seen people use a barbell


additionally you will not have your legs spread out, so this could be better for your groin

Lunges are the shit. I dread waking up the day after I do some lunges.

 

[fufu]

try lunges

i love walking lunges
possibly the single best workout for lower body IMHO
(quads, hamstrings, gluts)
i use dbs, basically because i love dbs for everything

but i have seen people use a barbell


additionally you will not have your legs spread out, so this could be better for your groin

When the back leg is extended during the lunge the 'groin' is actually stretched more. When I had a grade III groin pull lunges would be a very painful thing for me to do. Squats were too, but not nearly as bad.

To the OP, if your groin is injured, wait for it to heal until you start training it. It also may be just too tight, so stretch it before training dynamically and afterwards statically. You may want to talk to a doc about your pain from prior hernia operation and training.

 

[fufu]

Front squats are usually very easy on the body. Knees, hips and posterior chain dysfunctions can often be worked around with the front squat.

 

[AKIRA]

Other than the compression of the spine, Fronts call on my core to work more so (as it seems) than back squats. I am guessing because the bar is farther anteriorly thus increasing the need to bend over.

I avoid this by not going heavy, but then my legs hardly get an equal workout.

 

[Built]

Try sissy squats followed by the top third only of the leg extension. That shouldn't hurt your knees like full ROM leg extension will. Note, this is not a big mass-builder, okay? Don't try to go heavy on even this modified version of a leg extension. I do it as a pumping exercise after sissys, and to - weirdly enough- help knee tracking. Top portion of the lift can help knees, full ROM leg extension can really hurt.

Have you tried farmer walks?

 

[P-funk]

GO to physical therapy or somewhere that a qualified professional can evaluate you instead of taking the advice in this thread.


The term "groin" is a junk bag term that means a lot of things. Often a groin pull can be a strait to teh pectinius muscle. A lot of times people use the term groin to talk about an adductor strain. the only problem there are 5 adductor muscles and aside from adducting the hip they can also assist in flexion and internal rotation of the hip. as well, there are fibers in the adductor magus which are hip extensors (the adductor magnus helps assist the glute max and hamstrings to extend the hip!) and even soem texts will say that the gracillis and adductor brevis can potentially assist in hip extension as well.....it is because of that hip extension that performing other leg exercises may exacerbate the problem (especially the lunge position where stabilization is needed). You need to have someone look at the tissue and determine which muscle(s) is affected and why and then go from there. Often times you will need soft tissue work done to those muscles, which can be exteremely uncomfortable from the standpoint that they are typically very tender and the therapist will have to work up near your genital area (although the work can be done through boxers or light shorts).

 

[fufu]

I had always wondered what the groin termed as, since I had never came upon it an any of my anatomy classes. I figured it was a sort of general area, hence why I put quotes around it. Good stuff.

 

[P-funk]

I had always wondered what the groin termed as, since I had never came upon it an any of my anatomy classes. I figured it was a sort of general area, hence why I put quotes around it. Good stuff.

sometimes a pulled Psoas can give the same pains and people will say they have a groin pull.....sometimes, after hernia surgeries, changes in fascia can create tension and/or trigger points which refer pain into the "groin" area and cause people to think that something is wrong there when the referall is coming from somewhere else.....Of interesting note, there is even a referral pattern into the genital area (may feel like a hernia) from the obturator internus (a hip external rotator on posterior side of our body!). Now that is really weird when someone hits that trigger point and you feel it in the front.

 

[fufu]

That is strange, but I remember when I tore connective tissue in my back (or so the doc claimed) I felt a burning sensation in my abdominals when the pressure was put on the injured area in my upper back. The nervous sytem is pretty interesting.