DeadBolt said:
Soda is shit and there is absolutely no reason what so ever for her to drink it....there are a million other options even for simple carbs then soda. Thats the dumbest thing I've heard someone suggest.
You are entitled to your opinion, but in magazine articles, Craig Titus, Lee Priest and Flex Magazine( " A Day in the Life") all did not rule out soda and/or Gatorade as post workout simple carbs, IN MODERATION, of course.
Low GI carbs are fine post wo...it takes far to long to go into catabolism. Your talking like it takes 5 hours for the carbs to digest. Because she is consuming a pre w/o meal anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour before the workout then a post w/o meal directly after she isn't going to be going any longer then 3 hours without food. There are plenty of people who don't spike post w/o and only use low gi, complex carbs and they don't face the problem of catabolism nor do I. Or let me guess your still the person that workouts for 4 hours thinking your going to grow more?
. Again I disagree, but it seems like we can argue for six months over this and will still be at the same point. I can only point to results and I would bet that most of those who do not take simple carbs post workout do not progress and will still look the same anatomically a year from now compared to those like me who are putting on pounds of muscle each year at over 40 years old without using any drugs.
And by the way, I train three days a week. I know enough that the body grows OUTSIDE the gym, not in it. The less I train, the more I grow, so much for that....
A medium apple is roughly 70-80 calories, 20-25 carbs, and about 15 sugars. All you need is half of that...you don't want to be taking in to many sugars. When dieting there is no room for those extra calories...40 calories here and there add up during the day...when you eat apple at every carb . Read up on the principles behind carb cycling before suggesting material you know nothing about.
I know all about carb cycling and have done it myself. But I am also not an advocate of no or low carb dieting when one is training unless it is in the last stages of contest prep and only for short periods of time. If one is carbing so low that 10 carbs will make a difference, then it is too extreme. And besides, I am talking post workout nutrition. If the 10 carbs to be made up, do at some other time of the day when catabolism is not an issue.
And again, I think it is obsessive and extreme to be taking something as small as an apple, cutting it IN HALF and then eating what, two little bites. Healthy lifestyles are not about such micro managing and forcing one to deprive themselves so extremely. That is exactly why the fad diets fail.
Obviously you don't understand her goals here...I know your intentions are in the right place but there are times for certain pieces of advice. She can't afford any additional sugars or crap such as soda in her diet right now because she is cutting.
OK, I will agree that she should not be drinking soda and no I am not intimately familiar with her goals. But I was speaking in the context of 1) if the trainee absolutely feels the need to drink the stuff and cannot help themselves, then the lesser of 2 evils is to take it after a workout and 2) for ectomorphs, they can bend the rules more than other fattier body types. Read my original post again. It was used as an example, not necessarily saying it applied in all cases like hers.
