busyLivin said:get out of the bathroom much?
haha
I do visit the throne on my kingdom in the morning and once (sometimes twice) in the afternoon.
I figure i'll eat my bodyweight in whey each day, then everything else is extra protein.
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protein shakes.. with water or milk?
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I do visit the throne on my kingdom in the morning and once (sometimes twice) in the afternoon.
I figure i'll eat my bodyweight in whey each day, then everything else is extra protein.
I try to keep things simple. Also, I like to keep the cost down cause I ain't rich.
In the morning I like a MRP because I'm too lazy to prepare anything. The MRP I use is VPX Micellean MRP, which has 45 grams of high quality slow digestion protein (no whey concentrate which gives me gas), complex carbs, fiber, and even a little flax. If someone knows of a better MRP, let me know. Cost is $1.80. (I buy from 1fast/bulk nutrition.)
I work out in the afternoon. After a workout I want fast digestion protein. I use 2 scoops of Syntrax's Nectar (with water) which is 100% whey protein isolate. Tastes like a fruit drink or koolaid and mixes very, very easily. Shakes leave me bloated and can give me gas. No so with Nectar. Tastes great. Recommend it highly. 2 scoops = 46 grams of high quality protein. Cost for two scoops is $1.30. (I buy from muscleshoppe.)
Total cost/day = $3.10 for 91 grams of protein. Pretty cheap for 91 grams of high quality protein.
I get the rest of my protein (roughly 90 more grams) from food. I eat a good deal deal of chicken. I also like Hood's Carb Countdown Yogurt Lowfat Smoothie drink which provides 13 grams of protein, 4 grams of carbs, and only 100 calories (most yogurt drinks are sugar-laden while Carb Countdown uses Splenda).
In the morning I like a MRP because I'm too lazy to prepare anything. The MRP I use is VPX Micellean MRP, which has 45 grams of high quality slow digestion protein (no whey concentrate which gives me gas), complex carbs, fiber, and even a little flax. If someone knows of a better MRP, let me know. Cost is $1.80. (I buy from 1fast/bulk nutrition.)
I work out in the afternoon. After a workout I want fast digestion protein. I use 2 scoops of Syntrax's Nectar (with water) which is 100% whey protein isolate. Tastes like a fruit drink or koolaid and mixes very, very easily. Shakes leave me bloated and can give me gas. No so with Nectar. Tastes great. Recommend it highly. 2 scoops = 46 grams of high quality protein. Cost for two scoops is $1.30. (I buy from muscleshoppe.)
Total cost/day = $3.10 for 91 grams of protein. Pretty cheap for 91 grams of high quality protein.
I get the rest of my protein (roughly 90 more grams) from food. I eat a good deal deal of chicken. I also like Hood's Carb Countdown Yogurt Lowfat Smoothie drink which provides 13 grams of protein, 4 grams of carbs, and only 100 calories (most yogurt drinks are sugar-laden while Carb Countdown uses Splenda).
Flex said:
Wow. No offense, but I think that is entirely too much whey. You need a wider variety of amino acid profiles in your diet, not to mention that you need protein that keeps your body in an anabolic state for longer than that...
If you want another supplement, then you should try egg or milk protein powders.
Flex said:
DAYYYYYYYUM MAN!!!!!!!!
thats a hella lotta protein shakes rite there! and I used to think my 8 was pretty supersized
what brand u using?
CowPimp said:
na man whey is a good protein source, it has a good BCAA profile and absorption is superior to other forms of protein powder, one of my buddys went to the USA to play basketball, when he went he was madd skinny and he came back literally THE BIGGEST FUCKER EVER! I mean this guy is HUGE now
I was like... shit man! what supplements you take over there, he was just like creatine, glutamine and 9 whey shakes a day, lol! I knew there was more too it but i ain't arguing wid him!
of course if I'm given the choice I'd take real food over whey, but I know for a lot of guys that are in a rush that ain't always an option... and a lot of guys get real big off just whey shakes and the right supplements (if you get what i'm sayin)
peace
CowPimp said:
Ummmmm. no it's not
that's NOT the ONLY protein i get.
FYI, everyday, i also eat 4 cups FF cottage cheese, multiple glasses of skim milk, 1/2lb turkey/roast beef, 4 jumbo eggs for breakfast(3 whites, 1 whole), and a BIG portion of something for dinner pwo (be it chicken, steak, meatloaf etc.), and i mean BIG (as in an entire meatloaf, or like 5 chicken breasts, 1.5lb steak...). i eat more than anyone i've ever met, everyone i know says so.
By eating my bodyweight in protein, I eat bare minimum my 1g/lb of bodyweight, ensuring i get enough protein.
therefore, 10 scoops of whey/day isnt too much.
young d said:
ON Choc. Mint.
like i said in another thread, it's the best i've ever had. i've been eatin' it for months, and don't ever plan on changing.
Flex said:Ummmmm. no it's not
that's NOT the ONLY protein i get.
FYI, everyday, i also eat 4 cups FF cottage cheese, multiple glasses of skim milk, 1/2lb turkey/roast beef, 4 jumbo eggs for breakfast(3 whites, 1 whole), and a BIG portion of something for dinner pwo (be it chicken, steak, meatloaf etc.), and i mean BIG (as in an entire meatloaf, or like 5 chicken breasts, 1.5lb steak...). i eat more than anyone i've ever met, everyone i know says so.
By eating my bodyweight in protein, I eat bare minimum my 1g/lb of bodyweight, ensuring i get enough protein.
therefore, 10 scoops of whey/day isnt too much.
Christ. How much protein do you eat in a day?
CowPimp said:
mucho
300+g's
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I was plannin on trying this b/c Choc Mint is my favorite flavor usually for everything... Ice cream, candy, balance bars, even the teeth cleaning stuff the dentist used when I was a kidFlex said:
Good to know you like it. I will definitely be getting myself some 
Tx
Flex said:mucho
300+g's
Well, I still say you take in too much whey then. Whey is like 2/3 of your protein intake. Whey is a supplement, not the basis for one's protein intake. It's obviously working for you, but I wouldn't say it's the method of choice.
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I completely agree. There is no harm in eating more protein than what the texts say you should consume. I only take in 1 shake a day post wo and the rest is lean protein; ie. egg whites, chicken breast, tuna... but I weigh 165 and to maintain or add lbm slowly I take in over 1.5g of protein per lb of body weight... Today I took in 286g protein as an example. With the bulk of your protein sources being solid, lean protein I see no problem with it. It seems for me when I drop below 1.5g I start to decrease immediately. When I bulk I take in 2g per body weight.Flex said:Ummmmm. no it's not
that's NOT the ONLY protein i get.
FYI, everyday, i also eat 4 cups FF cottage cheese, multiple glasses of skim milk, 1/2lb turkey/roast beef, 4 jumbo eggs for breakfast(3 whites, 1 whole), and a BIG portion of something for dinner pwo (be it chicken, steak, meatloaf etc.), and i mean BIG (as in an entire meatloaf, or like 5 chicken breasts, 1.5lb steak...). i eat more than anyone i've ever met, everyone i know says so.
By eating my bodyweight in protein, I eat bare minimum my 1g/lb of bodyweight, ensuring i get enough protein.
therefore, 10 scoops of whey/day isnt too much.
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Oh to go back to the original question, I think the shake base depends on what you are trying to accomplish with your caloric intake. I have always used water only b/c I have an enormous appetite and I always preferred to consume my calories from solid foods that would fill me to prevent cheating and consuming a caloric excess. I rather take in a couple hundred calories from veggies, cottage cheese, oatmeal or something of that extent which is so much more stabalizing to my energy than 8-12 oz of juice or milk.
shutupntra1n said:I completely agree. There is no harm in eating more protein than what the texts say you should consume. I only take in 1 shake a day post wo and the rest is lean protein; ie. egg whites, chicken breast, tuna... but I weigh 165 and to maintain or add lbm slowly I take in over 1.5g of protein per lb of body weight... Today I took in 286g protein as an example. With the bulk of your protein sources being solid, lean protein I see no problem with it. It seems for me when I drop below 1.5g I start to decrease immediately. When I bulk I take in 2g per body weight.
That's right, there is nothing wrong with getting more than necessary. Over half of your protien coming from one source doesn't make sense though...
shutupntra1n said:I was plannin on trying this b/c Choc Mint is my favorite flavor usually for everything... Ice cream, candy, balance bars, even the teeth cleaning stuff the dentist used when I was a kid
oh man, if you like C.M. already, there'll be no turning back once you try this.
i always used to get sick of whatever powder i was on after a few months of it, esp. choc.
but the extra mint flavor it has just does something to it
in all honesty, i don' t plan on EVER changing
CowPimp said:
well, i don't really have a choice.
CowPimp said:
IMO protein is protein is protein.
For me, size comes from the carbos. You should see what i eat, you'd shit yourself.
I eat about 75% clean. I hafta have things like Mayo, ketchup, cereal etc. in my diet. But, on weekends, i'll eat ANYthing....chinese, pizza, you name it, and i still say relatively lean.
again, protein sources don't matter to me, as long as i'm gettin' enough...
Flex said:
Whatever, I'm just nitpicking anyway. That's leaps and bounds better than most people do.
CowPimp said:
you should see this guy at my gym. He and his roomie eat 20+ scoops of whey/day.
This dude is a MONSTER. (and his roomate isn't small either). They showed me their closet in their kitchen once and i kid you not, there was over 20 unopened tubs of protein in there. i felt like i was at GNC
i didn't care too much for on's chocolate mint. i was looking forward to being done with it, even though when I started taking it I loved it.
i think i might just be so accustomed to regular chocolate.
i think i might just be so accustomed to regular chocolate.
Flex said:
Protein is not protein, you are completely wrong. Try eating 300G of peanut butter protein isolate. You will be devoid of some essential amino acids. Granted, that's an exaggeration of a real world scenario, but the point still stands. All proteins are not created equal, just like how all carbs and fats and not created equally.
Whey is not a very good protein source for consumption all day long. It is assimilated far too quickly by the body, and it will leave you more likely to fall into a catabolic state than other longer lasting sources of protein. It is better than nothing, but certainly not a prime choice. Make sure to couple this whey with plenty of fats to slow down gastric emptying and make your heavy whey consumption more effective. If nothing else, don't eat purely whey protein before bed. That may be the worst option you have.
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I try to keep the protein shakes to a minimum. Even post workout when I take in my whey skake I also have a huge egg white omelet.
CowPimp said:
on paper that is right but in the real world I've seen several people gain LBM and lose significant body fat using whey as their main source of protein. these people where also eating every 1.5-2 hours which would be neccessary...
LAM said:
Exactly. I don't think most people are capable of eating that frequently. Also, as I said, you need to couple your whey with a significant amount of fat to make the amino acids available at a more gradual rate. As well, good whey does have a lot of BCAAs, which helps fight catabolism, but I still don't see it as the optimal source of protein for most people. That's all. It's doable, but I still see no reason to do it...
CowPimp said:Protein is not protein, you are completely wrong.[ /QUOTE]
Whatever. Works for me
4 scoops on workout days, 2 scoops on non-workout days for me.
I agree with cp on this one that you should definitly be eating a more wide range of protein/food, but if your eating the whey on top of good clean complete protein, then "whatever works for me" is the right attitude to have.
I agree with cp on this one that you should definitly be eating a more wide range of protein/food, but if your eating the whey on top of good clean complete protein, then "whatever works for me" is the right attitude to have.
Flex said:Whatever. Works for me
As I said, I'm just nitpicking. I understand why you do it: whey is convenient, quick, and tastey. As well, you seem to get a decent amount of protein from other sources. Also, you are quite big, so it has to be working for you.
soxmuscle said:
it's also "whatever is most convienent for me" too
CowPimp said:
I know you were, no probs.
and yes, that's why i tend to go that "whey"
Flex said:
AIIIGHT!
that just so happens to be what my next tub of protein is!! no shit! last month I bought 3 tubs of ON (2x choc, 1x choc mint), first time i tried ON 100% whey, choc is nice man (so far the best whey i've used) can't wait to try the choc mint
