Question on running Tren A alone...

[MovinWeight]

So I've ran 4-5 cycles, two of which have been using tren, test, oral. However, even with AI's I still get that test bloat. I was wondering if anyone has ever run Tren Ace by itself? (with proper supps of course, caber, ADEX) I am thinking of running 400mg of Tren A weekly for 5 weeks. 100mg every two days. What are your ideas? I'm sure I'll be shut down hard but any other dangers?

 

[longworthb]

Ya ull have no natural test production. If ur cool with a limp dick I say proceed lol. Just run your test at a trt dosage bro and run the tren 50mg Ed or 100 eod like u said for the last 6 weeks of your cycle. Ive always ran my test at 750ew till the week before Im adding tren then i drop to 250ew and run my tren at 75 eod. Amazing results not as many sides. Maybe run a dry oral the first 6 weeks of your cycle to keep the test bloat down until you start the tren. Epistane can be used for this

 

[longworthb]

Forgot to mention something about your diet. Bloat can be contributed to many things besides just the test. Eat cleaner and u should see improvements too

 

[maniac0614]

Ya ull have no natural test production. If ur cool with a limp dick I say proceed lol. Just run your test at a trt dosage bro and run the tren 50mg Ed or 100 eod like u said for the last 6 weeks of your cycle. Ive always ran my test at 750ew till the week before Im adding tren then i drop to 250ew and run my tren at 75 eod. Amazing results not as many sides. Maybe run a dry oral the first 6 weeks of your cycle to keep the test bloat down until you start the tren. Epistane can be used for this

this^^^^ Run test at least at trt dose and you will have great results!

 

[MovinWeight]

ok thats what i was thinking. i knew it would shut me down crazy hard. ill add 150mg test p weekly to the cycle. thanks for the advice... if anyone else still wants to put a word in im all for it though...

 

[jay_steel]

50mg eod test p and 100mg tren eod is great and mix in some var. If you want some bad ass gains bump it to 150mg eod tren.

 

[SloppyJ]

You need to run a little test my man. If the bloat is the problem, look into your diet.

 

[MovinWeight]

50mg eod test p and 100mg tren eod is great and mix in some var. If you want some bad ass gains bump it to 150mg eod tren.

yeah im going for a cut this time so the diet will be clean and i really just want to increase strength and decrease bf. not too interested in size gains although i know that will happen anyways.

 

[longworthb]

It's highly possible your still going to put on mass at a calorie deficit considering your running tren as long as your not eating a shit ton below maintanence

 

[jay_steel]

yeah, I gained great mass when I was on tren and my diet was LOW LOW...

 

[MovinWeight]

Yeah I've always put on like 10lbs when I ran tren. I'm gonna keep my diet strict and low cal and try to recomp hard. I'm at 16%bf right now and its mostly in my stomach although abs are still visible...

 

[ashoprep1]

watch your carbs on tren...

 

[SloppyJ]

I gained a tiny amount of muscle mass while on my cut cycle last time. But it wasn't enough to offset the loss of strength I got from dropping 30lbs.

 

[Digitalash]

ok thats what i was thinking. i knew it would shut me down crazy hard. ill add 150mg test p weekly to the cycle. thanks for the advice... if anyone else still wants to put a word in im all for it though...

It won't shut you down any harder than if you added test, just that you'll actually feel shut down without any test in your system. Some say thats not true as long as you have some androgens but I don't know thats true... Anyway you won't need an AI on just tren but I would say theres no reason not to add at least 250mg test a week

 

[SloppyJ]

^^ You should have some caber or prami though. Not an AI but still needed.

 

[Digitalash]

yea most likely, your E2 will be so low you may not have prolactin sides, and I guess you probably won't have much in the way of libido either so maybe its not important lol

 

[MovinWeight]

haha ive added 150mg test p in the mix weekly. still have a libido. just wanted to go as low as possible with test and see what tren can really do almost alone...