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Reason for being "natural"?

Playing with your health and hormones can cause more negative sides than positive.
 
Steroids are very expensive and seems very complicated. Natural is cheaper and simple.
 
I'm 35, 36 in July. I'm on a perpetual cut right now. I was up to right at 270 a year ago, with a six pack, natural. I can tell my joints/body weren't made to carry that weight. I just feel better overall that I've come down Currently at 240 and not stopping. I'm tired of "being big-ger" ... Hell i never really wanted to be that big but realized that I was. You look at an old pic and you're like dang, I was big(slightly fat in comparison to me now) I couldn't deny it. Now I'm trying to cut...naturally, perhaps do another show. Talk about a challenge. We all aren't going for the same goals. I mean, it's not just about getting bigger for alot of us, natural or assisted. I take a small small small percentage of offense to statements that assume every guy is trying to get bigger.

And hell now, I get so many fuckers asking and swearing I've taken something that it's more of a reason not to! I'm getting ready to get a tank top made that says 100% Natural or some shit on it, with a logo I had done up just to silence the minds of those wondering. When i'm in the gym, all I talk about is eating, what I'm gonna eat when i get home...people think I'm joking when I tell them what I eat or how much, and that as far as I'm concerned it's 90% of the equation for someone who is experienced at lifting. They think I'm joking, but meanwhile think I'm "using"...cause i can't be serious. I'm like dude I've been lifting since 7th grade. " I bet you workout everyday don't you.." No... ETC...shit gets old. The meathead assumptions, etc. I tell people look, with what I know(not that I know everything) but if I were on something, oh you wouldn't have to ask bro! I don't come to the gym to sit on a ball or do abs. I'd be blowing some shit out in the rack injuring myself or a bystander I know it. I would love to know how it feels, but hell I'd love to know how heroine feels too!
Holy shit I was reading through some old threads and read this. Exactly 8 days after writing this I broke the universal cable machine seated row! I was literally "jack3d" up, headphones on, breathing hard ready, full stack, I load up and pull...I heard and felt a pop and the next thing I know I'm rolled under the seated calf machine that was of course 5 fee behind me. Hit my head, leg, fell on my back. Went to the hospital. Nothing major, but developed some kinda scar tissue or nerve/spinal block and my right leg got weak. I'm still rehabbing. And that was still natural. Gotta be careful what I talk about!
 
Steroids are very expensive and seems very complicated. Natural is cheaper and simple.
Many teens I know, spend more money on supps than it would cost them to run 500mg test per week...
Very true. And with steroids, we need to follow a very strict diet.
wot?

Cals at maintenance
Low fats
Increase proatz to 2g/lb bw
increase carbs to fill remaining cals


HOW IS THIS STRICT IMO
 
Must take advantage of the Natural High Test./HGH flow that you men have Naturally at a young age!

Let's say from a scale 1-10, for natural Test/GH in a person's system--I am at about a 6-7 with natural test/GH, but when I was 18 not taking advantage of it, I was at a 10.

At 18, our endocrine system is pumping so much hormones with a greater water balance! .. But, being young usually means bad food intake full of toxic junk being pushed out our skin (acne/pimples) before we really know how to take care of our health.
 
Must take advantage of the Natural High Test./HGH flow that you men have Naturally at a young age!

Let's say from a scale 1-10, for natural Test/GH in a person's system--I am at about a 6-7 with natural test/GH, but when I was 18 not taking advantage of it, I was at a 10.

At 18, our endocrine system is pumping so much hormones with a greater water balance! .. But, being young usually means bad food intake full of toxic junk being pushed out our skin (acne/pimples) before we really know how to take care of our health.
Not trying to convince anyone to do anything...


But natural test peaks in the 20s-30s...
And natural test levels (in the high range) are around 1/10th of a low dose cycle dose...

Natural hormone levels do barely anything.

Same with GH, 2ius per day would be far more than natural levels for most
 
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my opnion ...


One. living with parents, and fear of being kicked out .. lol
2nd. not having money
3rd. be afraid
4th. lastly, do not have goals to compete along with fear ..
5th. hoping to achieve this "natural limit"

MY OPNION
 
Holy shit I was reading through some old threads and read this. Exactly 8 days after writing this I broke the universal cable machine seated row! I was literally "jack3d" up, headphones on, breathing hard ready, full stack, I load up and pull...I heard and felt a pop and the next thing I know I'm rolled under the seated calf machine that was of course 5 fee behind me. Hit my head, leg, fell on my back. Went to the hospital. Nothing major, but developed some kinda scar tissue or nerve/spinal block and my right leg got weak. I'm still rehabbing. And that was still natural. Gotta be careful what I talk about!
The stuff I read on here is incredible. First this guy, u come on a natural tread and talk shit and don have to prove anything!! 270 with six pack abs??? Are you 6'8??? Jay cutler is 5'10 260lbs on season with 30 in thighs and 22' arms!! You saying 6 pack implies u have maximum 10-12% body fat. So natural your bigger than jay cutler? Really?? Tard!!!!

also a guy earlier said steriods give no advantage?? Another tard!!!! Just full of them on here. Tell me why they ban steriods in sports?? Cause they don't want there guys looking good?? NO ass!!! It's cause a 42 yo man hit 70 home runs!!!!!! What silly little people we have on here!! Throw anything out there cause its the Internet!!!!
 
steroids = cheating
steroids= stupidity
steroids= lack of self confidence
steroids= health hazards
steroids= ignorance
steroids= psychological disorder


today's pro bodybuilding is not a sport it is a shame to sport and the judges at pro competitions should be hanged especially when it comes to women bodybuilding

the only bodybuilding is the natural way and true results come from hard work and dedication and intelligent workout and diet.
 
The only thing that would ever keep me from staying on, are the sex issues.


It's like when im on test my libido is fucking skyrocketing but my erections arent as hard and I dont last quite as long. No homo
 
^^^ and that too......for me no difference for the last 30 years ...natural is the only way......
one has to ask himself : Why bodybuilding, what is it for him.
 
Lmao!! I luv it!!! Cheating at what?? I don't compete. Well I guess it's cheating when women come up to me and ask where I workout. See when your natural and workout it keeps u thin so your not overweight. Now run some AAS and your built!! So yeah I guess it's cheating.
and Viagra will take care of any problems and make u super human in bed.
Bjm I see why your jealous not only am I bigger and stronger but I stay harder and last longer in bed. U just can't win.
Hey smaller weaker and bad in bed but u can give an excuse......... My small ass is all natural!!! Congrats!!!!
 
The stuff I read on here is incredible. First this guy, u come on a natural tread and talk shit and don have to prove anything!! 270 with six pack abs??? Are you 6'8??? Jay cutler is 5'10 260lbs on season with 30 in thighs and 22' arms!! You saying 6 pack implies u have maximum 10-12% body fat. So natural your bigger than jay cutler? Really?? Tard!!!!

also a guy earlier said steriods give no advantage?? Another tard!!!! Just full of them on here. Tell me why they ban steriods in sports?? Cause they don't want there guys looking good?? NO ass!!! It's cause a 42 yo man hit 70 home runs!!!!!! What silly little people we have on here!! Throw anything out there cause its the Internet!!!!
Merkaba has been posting here a long time. He has plenty of pics up. Dont know if he got to 270 but hes big. Just sayin


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steroids = cheating
steroids= stupidity
steroids= lack of self confidence
steroids= health hazards
steroids= ignorance
steroids= psychological disorder


today's pro bodybuilding is not a sport it is a shame to sport and the judges at pro competitions should be hanged especially when it comes to women bodybuilding

the only bodybuilding is the natural way and true results come from hard work and dedication and intelligent workout and diet.

Thanks for your opinion, unfortunately, nobody cares what you think.

You have posted MULTIPLE TIMES in this thread proving that you know very little if anything about aas. If you don't like it fine, that is your opinion.
 
Lmao!! I luv it!!! Cheating at what?? I don't compete. Well I guess it's cheating when women come up to me and ask where I workout. See when your natural and workout it keeps u thin so your not overweight. Now run some AAS and your built!! So yeah I guess it's cheating.
and Viagra will take care of any problems and make u super human in bed.
Bjm I see why your jealous not only am I bigger and stronger but I stay harder and last longer in bed. U just can't win.
Hey smaller weaker and bad in bed but u can give an excuse......... My small ass is all natural!!! Congrats!!!!

are you for real???
 
HFO3 that's exactly right and why I'm so pissed. They climb up on their high horse and preach how great they are and how bad we are. And that's fine cause who gives 2 craps. But read the previous pages of comments. They talk like they talking to their Tuesday night bowling team that never drove passed a gym much less trained. The only time a natural dude says there bigger and stronger than me is through a computer. Never in the gym. They just stop what there doing and watch me bench. I could sell tickets. And bjg not only says that protein and all supplements don't work at all but are actually bad for u. There talking about AAS users but never used. Nuff said!
 
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The sad part is some bros gave good reasons why they choose not to use and I respect them. AAS isn't for everyone but I don't go around bashing them for not using. Well, except for bjg but he knew it was coming.
 
I agree, It's a choice everyone gets to make, to each his own. Trying to force feed his opinions through negative connotations of gloom, doom and all out inferiority comparison to the non AAS person is as ridiculous as some of his opinions on the subject. Whatever...
 
Why all the hatred and condescension directed to users of AAS? Do you believe you are superior to the members here because of your choice to not use?

bjg claims to know everything about aas use yet has never used and assumes that anyone who does is going to be screwed up for the rest of their life.

Take a look back in this thread where I repetedly asked him to post a study, he never does and thus makes his argument void.
 
bjg claims to know everything about aas use yet has never used and assumes that anyone who does is going to be screwed up for the rest of their life.

Take a look back in this thread where I repetedly asked him to post a study, he never does and thus makes his argument void.

His argument became void immediately upon reading his emotionally distraught posts. Even if he stumbled across any potentially valid points he used such poor communication skills you can't take him seriously. He is just :blah:
 
XYZ i have presented MANY REAL medical articles if you go the the steroid section you can look them up.....+ the internet is full of "open to public articles" that re in most cases just bullshit...i am a professor and i write articles and i know about publishing articles.
that said, now i do not insult AAS users and i am not trying to make myself superior not at all...most of my gym friends are AAS users....you are right it is a choice...
my point of view is my opinion and it is a TRUE FACT that AAS is pretty bad for you...i just disagree with some people who use AAS and deny the fact that it is not good for them by looking up some stupid articles.......a true AAS user do not have to deny the truth...and should admit that he is taking a big risk in the long run. + Since when Bodybuilding = steroids...i think steroids ruined the whole essence of bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is all about discipline and dedication with ethics it is not a " search for the quickest way to build muscle". Bodybuilding is a quest for bettering yourself, and self accomplishment ..it is not to show off in front of women .. with steroids you will surely build bigger muscles but it will be cheating on yourself and MOST IMPORTANTLY for the wrong reasons.
So i think i don't only disagree with many on this forum about the MEANS but basically we disagree on the most basic question: "Why bodybuilding and why i am doing it"

finally i am arguing against AAS in the natural bodybuilding and teenager section and this is for a reason: trying to convince new comers to this sport not to make mistakes because i genuinely feel sorry for many young guys in the gym and i feel it is a responsibility for me to put them on the right track. How many of you will allow his own son to go ahead and take steroids??????????
 
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Lol actually my son is doing a cycle which I pin him. He will touch nothing or take nothing unless I tell him. Done right it's as safe as doing anything else.
Now for long term effects. Since steriods are a new thing and only been out 3-4 years u have a point!...............WAIT! People have been doing them hard since the 60's!!! So we have something to go on. How does Arnold look? How bout Lou? Tell u what bjg just shut up with opinion and show us the bodies???
 
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