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I studied nutrition at UF. The curriculum is based on guidelines set by various organizations (FDA etc.). The professors teach the guidelines. Your professors are experts in anatomy, physiology, metabolism, and can tell you everything about beta oxidation and actin/myosin --- they just don't have the knowledge to apply that information towards muscle gain or fat loss, in practice.

No curriculum in any capacity will cover too much about superphysiological doses/illicit use of steroids. Bodybuilding is not what the steroids are produced for.

Coincidentally, I've looked over the curriculum at UM's Miller Med School and they don't cover anything about diet or nutrition. Doctors, as a profession, don't know anything about diet or training. Neither do physiologists or dieticians. Having an expert knowledge of origins/insertions and metabolism cannot be parlayed into knowledge of fat loss or muscle gain. Having the formal education does allow one to understand the peer-reviewed studies as well as understand the mechanisms of diet and training.

It's not that your professors are wrong per se, it's just that you would be well served to take all of their diet and training advice with a grain of salt.
sorry missed the quote. now perfectly stated lol
 
Question for Built: you always talk against cardio, but I've seen that you include some at the end of your routines (at least HIIT).
So should we do some for cutting, bulking, both or neither?
I hate cardio!

I don't LIKE cardio - but I do it. Just not much.
I like walking - that I do all the time and you really cannot walk too much. I do a little cardio, bulking or cutting - helps me partition. Sometimes I'll toss in a session of hill repeats; last weekend I did complexes followed by hills, but it's not for body composition; it's for conditioning, so I can practice diving for longer than half an hour without my form going to shit from fatigue.

WHAT IS WORKING FOR ME. I am 50 years old. I was 260 pounds 2-26-11, 242 today
I am on TRT 140 mg pinning 70 twice a week. Diet is clean clean clean, running a signicant caloric deficit. My body loves to hold onto fat. I am lifting heavy 3 x a week. I try to keep my reps between 6-9 reps. If less that 6 too heavy, more than 9 to light. My strength has increased greatly in the last two months and my body compostion changes have been dramatic. I ride my bike 3 days a week about 50 miles total a week. average ride 14.5 miles in 1 hour.
On Lifting days my protein is +- 50% and carbs fat 25/25%. Slightly less protien on cardio days. Um, who is helping my with this? Built. listen to her and you will lose fat. It seem very much to me like I am losing fat and maintaining or gaining muscle on this program.
I have been journaling this here on IM forum with photos and video. It has been an interesting process and it DOES take a LOT of willpower make this work. But I am very determined!

Diet diet diet not a "diet" but what you eat "Diet"
Lift heavy.
Moderate cardio.
WORKS FOR ME

Thanks Built!
Jag, I'm SO GLAD you finally got on HRT. That, heavy lifting and a tight diet are working WONDERS for you. :thumb:
 
I don't LIKE cardio - but I do it. Just not much.
I like walking - that I do all the time and you really cannot walk too much. I do a little cardio, bulking or cutting - helps me partition. Sometimes I'll toss in a session of hill repeats; last weekend I did complexes followed by hills, but it's not for body composition; it's for conditioning, so I can practice diving for longer than half an hour without my form going to shit from fatigue.


Jag, I'm SO GLAD you finally got on HRT. That, heavy lifting and a tight diet are working WONDERS for you. :thumb:


Indeed

Thanks again for your help
 
Just a simple question, but how come you talk to some people that say they never do any cardio yet their muscular and lean at the same time and I mean lean. I know a guy at my gym who lifts and lifts but never does cardio but the sucker's 6'1 235 and no fat at all.

Keep your weights high and reps low.Cardio and diet are the ones that shred the fat.
 
Being lean is a function of body fat. It's certain possible to modulate one's bodyfat with diet alone -- one can get quite lean without cardio. Occasionally, individuals find it necessary to do some cardio to get rid of the "last bit" of fat but it isn't a requirement.

You also may not be familiar with any sort of drugs that he may be on.
 
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