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The Christians would have a ball with this if she came from a Democratic family.
 
The Christians would have a ball with this if she came from a Democratic family.

I don't believe that for a second, and that's insulting. Christians should be proud of her that she dealt with it appropriately by having the baby & marrying the father. She could have murdered the baby & swept the whole thing under the rug.
 
Didn't mean to insult you.
I hope the young kids married because they wanted to and not because of any other reason.
 
Obama on Palin

Politico's Carrie Budoff Brown reports: At a press avail in Monroe, Mich., Barack Obama on Palin: "Back off these kinds of stories."

"I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18 and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."

On charges that his campaign has stoked the story via liberal blogs:
"I am offended by that statement. There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us," he said. "Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired."
 
Those bloggers are having a field day with this.

The postings in that forum are disgusting. To call her a failed mother because her child had premarital sex is outrageous, but typical.

I plan to teach abstinence to my children. Sex means nothing to people anymore. I applaud Palin's stance on teaching abstinence. Unfortunately her child didn't apply it, but how this shines a bad light on Palin herself I just don't understand. If anything it makes her look better to see how her daughter is handling it. Show me a child that never ignores a parent's advice.

This may sound extremist these days, but I would never buy my daughter birth control, or my son a condom. If they feel they are mature enough to have sex, they should be mature enough to get it themselves & pay for it themselves. Too many people spoon-feed their children and they never learn anything for themselves. This whole argument that "they're going to do it anyway" doesn't sit well with me at all. I'm teaching sex is for marriage.. if they decide to not abide by that, that's their decision, but I will not be complicit in it.
 
gas prices are too high if diddy flies commercial. the last thing i want is to be sitting next to that dumb ass ignorant mother fucker on a plane ride across the US.
 
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Sums up all my thoughts perfectly.

Government name? What a dumb ass fucking retard.

It was the name his mother gave him. I say that it was his mother that gave it to him because, statistically, he doesn't know who his father is.

He needs to get his moronic ass off that merry-go-round and put down the pipe.
 
Government name? What a dumb ass fucking retard.

It was the name his mother gave him. I say that it was his mother that gave it to him because, statistically, he doesn't know who his father is.

He needs to get his moronic ass off that merry-go-round and put down the pipe.

more evidence that that black people only look at color. the lame ass stupid fucker doesnt know his left from his right and thinks obama is the greatest thing since watermellon. if you asked him 10 questions on who has which policy i guarantee you he would not be able to pick out which policies obama stands for.
 
I think this whole turn of events is a blessing in disguise.

Everyone now wants to be so critical of Sarah Palin's position on Abstinance. The critics all chide in and ask "how's that workin' out for ya?"

Well, I'll tell you. It's working perfectly.

Just because young Bristol Palin has chosen not to heed her parent's counsel doesn't make the message any less true. Now, young Bristol must live with the consequences of her actions and take her place among the hundreds of thousands of pregnant teenagers in this country. The only difference is her entire life is about to be examined and broadcast on every major news network, chat room, gossip forum and blog for the world's review. What an amazing burden for such a young girl. Had she abstained, this would have never happened. Lesson learned - the hard way.

To try and tie some off-handed argument that "Sex Education" could have averted all this is simply ludicrous. We had sex ed when I was in high school and, guess what? KIDS STILL HAD SEX!! Does that make it right? No. Does it make them evil and reprehensible people? Certainly not. Reckless and Irresponcible? Perhaps.

It is estimated that around 750,000 teenagers will get pregnant each year. Guess what - Sex Ed ISN'T going to stop this and the problem is not restricted to just families below the poverty line. If you are a parent of a teenager, this could easily become your reality, no matter how hard you try.

Each of should stop and ask ourselves, "How old was my mother when I was born?" We'll all have answers ranging across the spectrum. Personally, my mother was 16. She put me up for adoption. I am grateful for the life she gave me when she chose to carry me full-term and give birth, rather than abort me. I was reunited with her after 30 years. It was wonderful and we are still very close friends. Even if I had never met my mother I can still thank God for the fact that I was given the opportunity to live. Life rocks.

There are some fools out there who will try and purvey the ludicrous idea that teen-pregnancy is the result of failed parenthood. No.... not necessarily. I'll grant you, there are some really bad parents out there who are responcible for screwed up kids, however, I believe true parenthood is demonstrated not only by what you teach your children, but how you respond to them in their time of need when they don't listen. Do you embrace them in their time of need or do you cast them away to fend for themselves?

I applaud Sarah and her family in the way they have chosen to deal with this.
 
I think this whole turn of events is a blessing in disguise.

Everyone now wants to be so critical of Sarah Palin's position on Abstinance. The critics all chide in and ask "how's that workin' out for ya?"

Well, I'll tell you. It's working perfectly.

Just because young Bristol Palin has chosen not to heed her parent's counsel doesn't make the message any less true. Now, young Bristol must live with the consequences of her actions and take her place among the hundreds of thousands of pregnant teenagers in this country. The only difference is her entire life is about to be examined and broadcast on every major news network, chat room, gossip forum and blog for the world's review. What an amazing burden for such a young girl. Had she abstained, this would have never happened. Lesson learned - the hard way.

To try and tie some off-handed argument that "Sex Education" could have averted all this is simply ludicrous. We had sex ed when I was in high school and, guess what? KIDS STILL HAD SEX!! Does that make it right? No. Does it make them evil and reprehensible people? Certainly not. Reckless and Irresponcible? Perhaps.

It is estimated that around 750,000 teenagers will get pregnant each year. Guess what - Sex Ed ISN'T going to stop this and the problem is not restricted to just families below the poverty line. If you are a parent of a teenager, this could easily become your reality, no matter how hard you try.

Each of should stop and ask ourselves, "How old was my mother when I was born?" We'll all have answers ranging across the spectrum. Personally, my mother was 16. She put me up for adoption. I am grateful for the life she gave me when she chose to carry me full-term and give birth, rather than abort me. I was reunited with her after 30 years. It was wonderful and we are still very close friends. Even if I had never met my mother I can still thank God for the fact that I was given the opportunity to live. Life rocks.

There are some fools out there who will try and purvey the ludicrous idea that teen-pregnancy is the result of failed parenthood. No.... not necessarily. I'll grant you, there are some really bad parents out there who are responcible for screwed up kids, however, I believe true parenthood is demonstrated not only by what you teach your children, but how you respond to them in their time of need when they don't listen. Do you embrace them in their time of need or do you cast them away to fend for themselves?

I applaud Sarah and her family in the way they have chosen to deal with this.

:clapping:
 
It is estimated that around 750,000 teenagers will get pregnant each year. Guess what - Sex Ed ISN'T going to stop this and the problem is not restricted to just families below the poverty line. If you are a parent of a teenager, this could easily become your reality, no matter how hard you try.

Did you get that from planned parenthood's website? Planned Parenthood - Sex Education Issues

you missed the part about how sex ed also provides LIFE SAVING information with respect to stds. :finger:

<snip>..... many teens are taught a strict abstinence-only program, which does not teach contraception and denies them potentially lifesaving information.


You're right. Kids are going to do it anyway so why not give them the tools to protect themselves?

I don't think you can say people failed as parents just because their teen got knocked up/knocked someone up (or rather any single event). This just happens to be a big one!
 
Did you get that from planned parenthood's website? Planned Parenthood - Sex Education Issues

you missed the part about how sex ed also provides LIFE SAVING information with respect to stds. :finger:

<snip>..... many teens are taught a strict abstinence-only program, which does not teach contraception and denies them potentially lifesaving information.


You're right. Kids are going to do it anyway so why not give them the tools to protect themselves?

I don't think you can say people failed as parents just because their teen got knocked up/knocked someone up (or rather any single event). This just happens to be a big one!
Actually, I got the statistics from Pregnant Teen Help - Teen Pregnancy Statistics, Prevention and Facts. 2 sources - same number. they must be comparing notes.

You raise a good point about Sex Ed and Disease-prevention methods, but then, we weren't discussing disease were we? (Unless you consider an unexpected pregnancy to be an STD).

I'm not opposed to Sex Ed. I am Opposed to parents who think Sex Ed is an acceptable reason to avoid talking to their kids about sex. Parent's need to be involved and engage their children in this "taboo" subject.

Here's one interesting angle no one seems to be interested in entertaining: Has anyone considered that young Bristol might actually be IN LOVE with the father of her child? Could it possibly be that her sex was consensual because of her devout emotional commitment to this young man? I submit that it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

No.... that doesn't sell as good. Let's paint her up to be the promiscuous young adulterous daughter of a conservative Christian Republican Vice-presidential candidate. THAT sells news (at least on CNN and MSNBC). :thumb:
 
Here's one interesting angle no one seems to be interested in entertaining: Has anyone considered that young Bristol might actually be IN LOVE with the father of her child? Could it possibly be that her sex was consensual because of her devout emotional commitment to this young man? I submit that it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

A 17 year old has no concept of love and parenthood. As much as they may think they do.

BTW I could give two shits, that Palin's daughter got knocked up. Shit happens to us all, politicians are no different, they aren't some omniscient presence.
 
A 17 year old has no concept of love and parenthood. As much as they may think they do.
I'll be the first to admit, at 17, I had absolutely no concept of "Love" and I sure as hell had no concept of parenthood.

However, I'm not going to lump all the 17-year olds into that category just because they are young and inexperienced.

Sure, kids have a lot to learn about love that that doesn't render them incapable of being IN love.

And parenthhod? That's a whole nuther animal alltogether. There's only so much you can learn from books and Dr. Phil. Some things you have to experience for yourself. I'm sure you can attest to that. :)
 
preach it brother Wit. your posts in this thread have been spot on.
 
Interesting stat I heard today: Obama has had a total of 140 working days in the senate.

Glad you brought this up.....


Someone did the math. Obama the Senator. He has only been a Senator for 18 months. But with all the recesses, four day weekends, campaigning and absences, Obama has only spent about 6 weeks of workdays on the Senate floor as one of the most junior Senators. Most of his votes, about 80% when he was not absent, have been 'present' or 'abstain'. He also chairs a committee that has never met because the chairman has never called a meeting. As a trial lawyer he only tried 14 cases in court - and minor ones at that. As a 'community organizer' his major cause was getting the asbestos out of a housing project. After 2 years of trying, the asbestos was still there when he left and is still there even now that he is a Senator and presumably has some pull to get things done.

That's it. His entire real world work resume: 6 weeks work in the Senate with nothing to show for it. Two years as a lawyer and only 14 minor trials. And two years as a 'community organizer' with nothing accomplished.
 
Glad you brought this up.....


Someone did the math. Obama the Senator. He has only been a Senator for 18 months. But with all the recesses, four day weekends, campaigning and absences, Obama has only spent about 6 weeks of workdays on the Senate floor as one of the most junior Senators. Most of his votes, about 80% when he was not absent, have been 'present' or 'abstain'. He also chairs a committee that has never met because the chairman has never called a meeting. As a trial lawyer he only tried 14 cases in court - and minor ones at that. As a 'community organizer' his major cause was getting the asbestos out of a housing project. After 2 years of trying, the asbestos was still there when he left and is still there even now that he is a Senator and presumably has some pull to get things done.

That's it. His entire real world work resume: 6 weeks work in the Senate with nothing to show for it. Two years as a lawyer and only 14 minor trials. And two years as a 'community organizer' with nothing accomplished.
time to hand over the launch codes. we have a winner
 
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