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Sarah Palin?!?!

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You have absolutely said you wont vote for a ticket with palin. that leads to a choice of obama unless im mistaken?

because I'm much more worried about obama. truthfully i feel palin is not experienced enough to lead the country. im hardly afraid of her policies. seems to me that nothing concrete has been shown yet. everything so far posted is BS alarmist crap. nothing of consequence. people really need to look at real stuff before they start crying about the sky falling
Really? I could have sworn there were more than 2 parties on the ballot. Hmmm and maybe even a write in........
 
Just remember, Nader caused Gore to loose the 2000 election.
 
Really? I could have sworn there were more than 2 parties on the ballot. Hmmm and maybe even a write in........

:clapping:

I acquiesce the point.
 
I vote how who I feel is best appropriate not because there are 2 major parties. It may be R, D, I, write in what have you..... I refuse to vote one way only.
 
It is kind of interesting that this VP pick is getting so much attention. Im actually really very surprised. that people wouldn't vote for a ticket based on the inexperience of the VP nomination when the opponents presidential nomination has the same flaw. it seems that it has really taken a lot of the heat off McCain being "just like bush" which in actuality is more ridiculous than any other smear levied on either side of this election.


They do it because McCain is a known. Obama, however, is not "a known." As the elections march forward, more and more of the skeletons in his closet will come out and the shit that he shovels will be more apparent. So they have to go after Palin because she's also an unknown.
 
I vote how who I feel is best appropriate not because there are 2 major parties. It may be R, D, I, write in what have you..... I refuse to vote one way only.

Thank god, I'm not alone in this whole "logical voting" thing.
 
They do it because McCain is a known. Obama, however, is not "a known." As the elections march forward, more and more of the skeletons in his closet will come out and the shit that he shovels will be more apparent. So they have to go after Palin because she's also an unknown.

problem is obama's voting record is nearly non-existent. how many times did the guy vote 'present'? when has he ever had to stand for something?
 
Palin absolutely exceeded expectations tonight in her speech. She will and has grabbed some of the voters that are on the fence. I expect the repubs will get a good boost from the convention. I think everone that has been reporting on the convention think she did a great job.
 
Palin absolutely exceeded expectations tonight in her speech. She will and has grabbed some of the voters that are on the fence. I expect the repubs will get a good boost from the convention. I think everone that has been reporting on the convention think she did a great job.

I thought her speech was absolute shit. She lost the crowd halfway through by talking about her family and her small town life. Save that shit for another time. She needed to come out and be strong but she was weak and basically repeated most major points that Rudy Giuliani already said.

The only thing i think she and Rudy did well on was embarrassing Obama on how he doesn't keep his promises and lacks any credibility for having only been running for 140 days. I'd take someone with experience over a "Celebrity Senator" any day.
 
Gergen: Palin delivers
Posted: 11:48 PM ET

From CNN Senior Political Analyst David Gergen


Palin addressed the RNC Wednesday.
Republicans got everything they could possibly want from Sarah Palin tonight: she was a large, confident personality — one Democratic friend ruefully wrote that she reminded him of Ann Richards — and she delivered an extremely well crafted speech. Before the speech, Republican strategists told Dana Bash of CNN that they hoped that she would show viewers "a common touch with executive presence", and she definitely succeeded at that.

Three things in particular stood out:
1. She joked that the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull is …lipstick. Clearly, in the next few weeks, she will play the role of a pit bull with lipstick. My sense is that she will very likely connect with blue collar America but may be much less successful in suburban America.

2. Her personal story is also one that will relate well to people. She has a quality of seeming like the girl next door.

3. She showed a lot of confidence in addressing energy toward the end of the speech, which gave her more substantive depth.

Now let us be clear: there will be tons of Democrats and others who will disagree with her and will take sharp exception with her views. Her jabs at Barack Obama and the Democrats were surprisingly personal at times. And she will face tough questioning ahead from the press. After all, there are still some serious questions about what kind of president she might be. We are going to have a rough and tumble race down the home stretch.
 
2. Her personal story is also one that will relate well to people. She has a quality of seeming like the girl next door.

And Bush was the guy you could sit down and have a beer with. We need a leader, not the skank next door that you want to bang.

No that is not my official opinion of her, but I feel that is a poor point to be grading a candidate on.
 
Palin absolutely exceeded expectations tonight in her speech. She will and has grabbed some of the voters that are on the fence. I expect the repubs will get a good boost from the convention. I think everone that has been reporting on the convention think she did a great job.

Giuliani's speech alone should provide a bounce. Remarkable when you hear him say it all at once: this election should be a landslide.

Palin did fantastic... I'm still really interested to see her on her feet.. the debates/interviews, etc. I always blasted Obama for being nothing more than a good speaker when it's written down, so I can't give Palin a pass. It's no secret I like her & love everything she stands for, but I like knowing it's more than just a well-written speech.

I'm really interested to see whether there is a significant bounce in the polls.
 
I think Sarah Palin and Rudy "I'm a" G rocked it tonight. Rudy, I'm not surprised, I've always loved that guy. And Palin's a bad B! I liked her a lot! Considering McCain's 72 years old, has multiple bouts with skin cancer and was a POW, I'm a little worried about him (potentially) lasting 8 years in the White House, and charming as she may be I'm not sure that the little country bumpkin from Alaska with her limited experience would be fit for the Presidency in the worst case scenario. But I really doubt that is a legitimate enough concern to not vote for McCain if I otherwise decide to do so.
 
Convention speeches are a joke, for all candidates and parties. Always has been this way.

These speeches target the low-info voter. Conventions are for low-info voters.

Abstract, rah-rah, talk.

And then the spin doctors come and tell us what it meant and how many political points were lost.

I don't even watch the conventions.
 
I think she hit it out of the park.

She touched on a variety of subjects and issues ranging from her personal life and family, National Security, to Energy Policy.

She addressed her own political and government experience.

She calls Obama out on his own shortcoming of "experience". All-in-all she made a very compelling speach. Considering this was the first time the vast majority of Americans (and the whole world for that matter) have heard her speak, I think she may have won some hearts.

Of course, there are those discerning types who will need a lot more time and evidence before they are convinced, but non-the-less, this was a good start.

I don't think anyone has any dillusional ideas that the whole country is going offer wholesale support to the McCain/Palin ticket, but many will.

She's a strong woman with some amazing and admiral qualities. I'm very impressed.
 
I think she energized the voters who already intended on voting McCain, just as the DNC did for those already voting Obama. These conventions don't really do anything other than that, that is what the debates are for.
 
I thought her speech was absolute shit. She lost the crowd halfway through by talking about her family and her small town life. Save that shit for another time. She needed to come out and be strong but she was weak and basically repeated most major points that Rudy Giuliani already said.

The only thing i think she and Rudy did well on was embarrassing Obama on how he doesn't keep his promises and lacks any credibility for having only been running for 140 days. I'd take someone with experience over a "Celebrity Senator" any day.

I guess we werent watching the same convention, perhaps you had the telemundo channel on when you were watching her because she by far has now made the best speech to date in this whole campaign
 
I thought her speech was absolute shit. She lost the crowd halfway through by talking about her family and her small town life. Save that shit for another time. She needed to come out and be strong but she was weak and basically repeated most major points that Rudy Giuliani already said.

The only thing i think she and Rudy did well on was embarrassing Obama on how he doesn't keep his promises and lacks any credibility for having only been running for 140 days. I'd take someone with experience over a "Celebrity Senator" any day.

Lost the crowd? What? The crowd couldn't have been more enthusiastic. Don't see how you could have thought she looked weak.

"Save that shit for another time..." She was introducing herself to a country that doesn't know her.. and attempting to put to rest the bullshit coverage the media has given her. Primetime on the national stage was the perfect time to do this.
 
Palin is just what John McCain needs. She off-sets Obama's (overplayed) charisma with her own natural charm, yet she's down to earth. Her experience is more than adequate for VP, and she appears to be a straight shooter. I think, as far as conventions go, she did pretty damn good to have come out of nowhere.

I do think they played the bashing angle a tad too hard, but overall they got the job done.
 
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I do think they played the bashing angle a tad too hard, but overall they got the job done.

They did hit him hard, but I think it was necessary. The media is in the bag for Obama & will never tell voters the huge gaps in Obama's rhetoric. This put it front and center.. and to come from Giuliani was priceless.
 
Giuliani's speech alone should provide a bounce. Remarkable when you hear him say it all at once: this election should be a landslide.

Palin did fantastic... I'm still really interested to see her on her feet.. the debates/interviews, etc. I always blasted Obama for being nothing more than a good speaker when it's written down, so I can't give Palin a pass. It's no secret I like her & love everything she stands for, but I like knowing it's more than just a well-written speech.

I'm really interested to see whether there is a significant bounce in the polls.

From what I had heard, I expected her to be a good motivational speaker. She did just that. But I'm also curious to see how she reacts and does in the debates. Will she still be level headed and respond in a rational manner? If so, the dems are in for a tough contest.
 
Giuliani's and Huckabee's speech was awesome. They hit Obama right on his weaknesses.
 
They did hit him hard, but I think it was necessary. The media is in the bag for Obama & will never tell voters the huge gaps in Obama's rhetoric. This put it front and center.. and to come from Giuliani was priceless.

True...and true, very true. Giuliani did a great job, and appeared to be enjoying it (maybe too much:D)
I do like the way Palin addressed the issue of the relationship between the Washington 'elite' and the media. Especially when the camera was on certain media figures..who appeared to whince alittle bit, lol.

The bottom line is this.....There is not enough time, nor would most American's be able to understand, every single piece of information about these candidates....Dems or Repub's. The media will always present information that is 'spinnable' or otherwise 'sexy'. To the average Joe,Facts are boring. National Enquirer junk is sensational and entertaining.

This year, I'm going with my gut. There's not much more to go with.
 
Sarah gave an amazing speach but one memorible quote, when describing her husbands accomplishments:

Throw in his Yup'ik Eskimo ancestry, and it all makes for quite a package

So, are eskimos well hung or what?
 
Pretty impressive.. her teleprompter was broken & she was able to remain composed & deliver the great speech she did.

Pretty much the opposite of what happened when Obama's went out...

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