what did they find wrong with u? i also want to get some kind of test that shows my vitamin/mineral levels...i don't i have taken such a test yet and would be very interested to know..maybe Trouble could recommend a good one?
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those are the exact same things i've been diagnosed with...what did they give u to correct the deficiencies?
Please don't jump to the gun on comparing our diagnosis 
I am at a completely different situation than you and I don't feel as bad as you do nor do I have all the problems I've read in here. So just be cautious and let an ND diagnose you.
For my adrenals, I recieved an herb tincture of about 15 different herbs that I take twice a day. I am also on an adrenal complex. For my digestion issue, I am on high doses of glutamine and an intestamine, as well as high dosage probiotic. For my T3 & TPO AB, I am on Thyrolar a synthetic hormone combo of T3 and T4, also taking kelp. Other supps for immune support selenium, bioflavinoids, ALA, fish oils, and Pea protein in place of whey protein. Diet has no dairy (other than yogurt) for now NO simple sugars, 1-2 sm. pieces of fruit and 2 C. FF no sugar added yogurt per day. Also, allowed chicken and fish and as much green veggies as I want.
I am at a completely different situation than you and I don't feel as bad as you do nor do I have all the problems I've read in here. So just be cautious and let an ND diagnose you.For my adrenals, I recieved an herb tincture of about 15 different herbs that I take twice a day. I am also on an adrenal complex. For my digestion issue, I am on high doses of glutamine and an intestamine, as well as high dosage probiotic. For my T3 & TPO AB, I am on Thyrolar a synthetic hormone combo of T3 and T4, also taking kelp. Other supps for immune support selenium, bioflavinoids, ALA, fish oils, and Pea protein in place of whey protein. Diet has no dairy (other than yogurt) for now
NO simple sugars, 1-2 sm. pieces of fruit and 2 C. FF no sugar added yogurt per day. Also, allowed chicken and fish and as much green veggies as I want.
yeh i was some of the same stuff they have u on...homeopath was the first one i went to..the problem was the supps were expensive and didn't change me at all..maybe i will give it another try..nd same thing as homeopath?
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Leaky gut is GERD; I already mentioned that, OTB
You, Jodi, and many others have this problem. Its a progressive condition.
See this webpage for an rolling discussion of what it is and what might be done to correct it permanently, not just treat the symptoms.
Whether or not you have measureable problems with glucose tolerance depends on how badly your glutamine biochemistry in pancreas, liver, and gut is out of tune and your recent history of diet and sleep - and also B6 supplementation.
B6 and taurine deficiencies are part of the neuropathy in your feet, OTB. In order for any treatment to work, you must also diminish the stress component contribution to this disease, as it lies that the very heart of GERD. Otherwise, the supplements won't do much good.
You, Jodi, and many others have this problem. Its a progressive condition.
See this webpage for an rolling discussion of what it is and what might be done to correct it permanently, not just treat the symptoms.
Whether or not you have measureable problems with glucose tolerance depends on how badly your glutamine biochemistry in pancreas, liver, and gut is out of tune and your recent history of diet and sleep - and also B6 supplementation.
B6 and taurine deficiencies are part of the neuropathy in your feet, OTB. In order for any treatment to work, you must also diminish the stress component contribution to this disease, as it lies that the very heart of GERD. Otherwise, the supplements won't do much good.
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Gastro esophageal reflux disease; acid reflux disease; leaky gut syndrome.
But we already know that; its a problem of taurine, B6, and highly corrosive bile acids produced in liver that slowly dissolve first the micrbial niche, the protective gel like covering of colonial bacteria that protects the lining and aides in absorption and chemical conversions, and then finally, the villi and cells themselves begin to slough off.
Liver is responsible for controlling thyroid hormone conversion. And you'll read about cholesterol suckout, and why that hampers adrenal function. It cuts off the base material for adrenal hormone synthesis. What little is there is used for cortisol and not DHEA. At the core, a lack of GABA and an excess of glutamine in key tissues. Up in the brain, in liver, in pancreas, in gut. A very interesting problem we're unwinding.
All stress driven. About 30-50 of Americans have it by age 50 and more than two thirds by age 65.
But we already know that; its a problem of taurine, B6, and highly corrosive bile acids produced in liver that slowly dissolve first the micrbial niche, the protective gel like covering of colonial bacteria that protects the lining and aides in absorption and chemical conversions, and then finally, the villi and cells themselves begin to slough off.
Liver is responsible for controlling thyroid hormone conversion. And you'll read about cholesterol suckout, and why that hampers adrenal function. It cuts off the base material for adrenal hormone synthesis. What little is there is used for cortisol and not DHEA. At the core, a lack of GABA and an excess of glutamine in key tissues. Up in the brain, in liver, in pancreas, in gut. A very interesting problem we're unwinding.
All stress driven. About 30-50 of Americans have it by age 50 and more than two thirds by age 65.
forgive my lack of knowledge or understanding on this subject, but what should i do now? continue the supplementation u suggested a few pages back? should i get my mineral.vitmin levels tested?
same here^^^started when i just a kid
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Start by doing a Google search on GERD. Educate yourself on this disease, its cause and its current medical treatment.
Talk to your doctors about it. But read that webpage; its informative and will help you understand the progressive development of this condition. You'll see mention of the supps I've recommended to you, but you should know why they are important, and be proactive in your treatment - its your body, take control. You can work with your physicians to find medications that help calm the release of these bile acids (activated by stress and nerves that run from your spine to your gut, liver and gallbladder) and start the gut towards healing. Beyond that, there are foods that can help recondition the gut lining, and restablish healthy functional normal bacterial action again.
Talk to your doctors about it. But read that webpage; its informative and will help you understand the progressive development of this condition. You'll see mention of the supps I've recommended to you, but you should know why they are important, and be proactive in your treatment - its your body, take control. You can work with your physicians to find medications that help calm the release of these bile acids (activated by stress and nerves that run from your spine to your gut, liver and gallbladder) and start the gut towards healing. Beyond that, there are foods that can help recondition the gut lining, and restablish healthy functional normal bacterial action again.
it mentions damage to the esophagus but my endoscopy came out normal
maybe they should look again..is there anything else besides a colon and endoscopy?
i got an appointment with an infectious diseases doctor in a week..this looks to be the last resort. the disease u mentioned trouble, GERD, would almost certainly have shown up on my endo and colonoscopy, especially if it causes damage to ur esophagus.
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If you read on, you'll find that not everybody has upper GI complications; you and Jodi primarily have them in the gut, the intestines. Now you've got nausea and bleeding for a good reason, and those GERD websites talk about it.
I don't think the Infectious Diseases Doctor is going to find beans, but I would ask him about Helopbacter pylori when you see him, as it can be a stomach acid complication that may have to be delt with separately. As far as which GI series, your doctor should be tapped into an gastroenterologist, given your gut symptoms, plus your nervousness, and obvious biliary and hepatic issues.
I'm trying real hard not to confuse you and divert you from seeing physicans. I won't ignore you, either. We're having this dialog because you asked. Others here are concerned that we're subtending the work of your doctors.
I don't think the Infectious Diseases Doctor is going to find beans, but I would ask him about Helopbacter pylori when you see him, as it can be a stomach acid complication that may have to be delt with separately. As far as which GI series, your doctor should be tapped into an gastroenterologist, given your gut symptoms, plus your nervousness, and obvious biliary and hepatic issues.
I'm trying real hard not to confuse you and divert you from seeing physicans. I won't ignore you, either. We're having this dialog because you asked. Others here are concerned that we're subtending the work of your doctors.
well, like i said, i have been to 2 GIs, both unable to find anything wrong with me. They gave me Zelnorm; then laxatives..neither of them worked. One suggested having an endoscopy to look at my villi. I was thinking about doing that. I tested negative for h.pylori..
everything mentioning GERD says u can see damage to the esophagus through an endoscopy...so if i have it, why did my endoscopys come out normal?
maybe i will get another one done after all
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Read this OTB. It clearly says that not all GERD patients show inflammation of the esophageal tract. Your symptoms are consistant with GERD, including inflammation of the liver and gallbladder complications.
I think its worth asking more questions of your physican, like why he doesn't know that GERD can present without esophageal inflammation. I would do this tactfully and then request referral to a specialist who works with difficult GERD cases.
But if you read that article, it clearly says - the basis is stress and the patients are chronically stressed. Part of your recovery OTB must be stress management counseling. Not question, its a must.
You must also be extra careful about hydration; it will add to the discomfort in your feet.
You need to resume regular walking for stress control, with calming music, a walkman, something to listen to, to make sure you turn your thinking off and just move to the music, it will help a LOT with this problem.
I think its worth asking more questions of your physican, like why he doesn't know that GERD can present without esophageal inflammation. I would do this tactfully and then request referral to a specialist who works with difficult GERD cases.
But if you read that article, it clearly says - the basis is stress and the patients are chronically stressed. Part of your recovery OTB must be stress management counseling. Not question, its a must.
You must also be extra careful about hydration; it will add to the discomfort in your feet.
You need to resume regular walking for stress control, with calming music, a walkman, something to listen to, to make sure you turn your thinking off and just move to the music, it will help a LOT with this problem.
been up all night..can't sleep...stomach justy rumbles over and over again..and this liquid keep coming back into my mouth...and it makes this sizzling sound..maybe that'd the acid you're talking about
i have read up on GERD and will discuss it with GI doctor, but the only thing I could find about curing it is reducing stress. Right now I am not physically stressing myself, nor mentally. If u think sitting around all day is mentally stressful, well, we will never agree on anything. The point being, are there supplements or medications that are used for this?
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Looks like noone listened to me.
OTB your enemy is STRESS or let's say BRACING. But bracing is a effect of stress storage in hypothalamus.
1. The most important is to learn skilled relaxation and do it atleast 2 times a day ( buy a GSR biofeedback like http://www.new-mindmachines.com/biofeedback/biofeedbackdevicethoughtstream.html to check if you can really relax ). It takes alot of time until you see benefits of skilled relaxation. But a late benefit is a real benefit. After some training you will able to feel the "bracing" - unvoluntarily contraction of muscles.. it's because the hypothalamus is 24/7 in the fight or flight mode .. the muscles around guts are contracted which restrict blood flow to the gut. Lining of the gut ussualy is replaced every 48 hours but in your case it won't.
The skilled relaxation is probably one of the only ways to treat Leaky gut which you definitely have.
2. Do a perfect whole food diet. NO refined carbs or sugar. It has to be perfect! No cheating or you won't get anywhere. This also releives the body from stress. How? Long story...
3. If you have candida treat it with antifungals. The best is nystatin oral powder.
4. If you have problems with acids then definitely go for Ginger root juice (grind few gingers even with the skins in a juicer and drink a teaspoon of ginger every morning after you wake up for 3 weeks.. atleast 1 hour before breakfast). This worked brilliantly for me. It helped my GERD symptoms. But remember.. it only treats the symptoms.. and not the root cause..
I had and still have very simmilair symptoms like you have. Of course everybody is different. But things like perfect whole food diet and relaxation helps everybody!
My stress and a number of symptoms are almost gone now and the bracing is finaly giving up.
Work on the relaxation.
God knows how you ended up in that mess. In my case it was because of antibiotics. In your case.. well work with doctors to see if they can come up with something that sounds reasonable..
OTB your enemy is STRESS or let's say BRACING. But bracing is a effect of stress storage in hypothalamus.
1. The most important is to learn skilled relaxation and do it atleast 2 times a day ( buy a GSR biofeedback like http://www.new-mindmachines.com/biofeedback/biofeedbackdevicethoughtstream.html to check if you can really relax ). It takes alot of time until you see benefits of skilled relaxation. But a late benefit is a real benefit. After some training you will able to feel the "bracing" - unvoluntarily contraction of muscles.. it's because the hypothalamus is 24/7 in the fight or flight mode .. the muscles around guts are contracted which restrict blood flow to the gut. Lining of the gut ussualy is replaced every 48 hours but in your case it won't.
The skilled relaxation is probably one of the only ways to treat Leaky gut which you definitely have.
2. Do a perfect whole food diet. NO refined carbs or sugar. It has to be perfect! No cheating or you won't get anywhere. This also releives the body from stress. How? Long story...
3. If you have candida treat it with antifungals. The best is nystatin oral powder.
4. If you have problems with acids then definitely go for Ginger root juice (grind few gingers even with the skins in a juicer and drink a teaspoon of ginger every morning after you wake up for 3 weeks.. atleast 1 hour before breakfast). This worked brilliantly for me. It helped my GERD symptoms. But remember.. it only treats the symptoms.. and not the root cause..
I had and still have very simmilair symptoms like you have. Of course everybody is different. But things like perfect whole food diet and relaxation helps everybody!
My stress and a number of symptoms are almost gone now and the bracing is finaly giving up.
Work on the relaxation.
God knows how you ended up in that mess. In my case it was because of antibiotics. In your case.. well work with doctors to see if they can come up with something that sounds reasonable..
does no one here listen? the doctors have not been able to find out what's wrong with me. they say he has ibs or chronic fatigue, throw some laxatives at me, or say I need counseling. i tried glutamine for weeks on end to try to heal my gut, but the only thing that did was lighten my wallet. i will try the ginger root, but i am not getting my hopes up.
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Hybah is totally right on here - he understands your problem perfectly.
If you think you aren't stressed, fine. Fool yourself right into the grave. If you think this disease isn't lifethreatening in its advanced stages, you'll be in even worse shape in a few months.
Jesu, you got the acid reflux right in your mouth, and you're gonna tell us you aren't stressed?
You do need counseling, because you're addicted to stress and you're in firm denial that you don't have a problem.
Wanna be cured? Start with your stress problem, your lack of exercise and fuckchop diet. Use the supps I talk about on that webpage.
Get your hands in sam-e and take it, 200 mgs, twice per day to start, then 400 mgs twice per day (iherb.com has the 400mgs cheapest). Taurine, use it in LIMITED amounts, just 500 mgs at time, couple times a day. Use the magnesium at the same time. Use choline glus a little glucuronolactone to help with lagging neurotransmitters in your liver. Use NAC, capped, 500 mgs, 600 mgs, 3 times a day.
Thats a start. You keep wanting to place blame for this condition of yours on some mythic disease. Stress is your disease, GERD is its henchman. Its taking you apart, cell by cell, so until you have the balls to face and deal with it...
Its your master and you are the slave.
If you think you aren't stressed, fine. Fool yourself right into the grave. If you think this disease isn't lifethreatening in its advanced stages, you'll be in even worse shape in a few months.
Jesu, you got the acid reflux right in your mouth, and you're gonna tell us you aren't stressed?
You do need counseling, because you're addicted to stress and you're in firm denial that you don't have a problem.
Wanna be cured? Start with your stress problem, your lack of exercise and fuckchop diet. Use the supps I talk about on that webpage.
Get your hands in sam-e and take it, 200 mgs, twice per day to start, then 400 mgs twice per day (iherb.com has the 400mgs cheapest). Taurine, use it in LIMITED amounts, just 500 mgs at time, couple times a day. Use the magnesium at the same time. Use choline glus a little glucuronolactone to help with lagging neurotransmitters in your liver. Use NAC, capped, 500 mgs, 600 mgs, 3 times a day.
Thats a start. You keep wanting to place blame for this condition of yours on some mythic disease. Stress is your disease, GERD is its henchman. Its taking you apart, cell by cell, so until you have the balls to face and deal with it...
Its your master and you are the slave.
addicted to stress? come on now...what kinda bullshit is tha..u think i want to be stressed? that's what u r implying..u can be addicted to drugs, but i don't see how i can be addicted to stress..if i were i would still be taking ephedra, working out, living with my father, and going to school...now i already said i have been to a psychologist many times...i don't have something new to talk about everytime, so it's a waste of my money. She knows my current situation, but u can't keep repeating urself over and over again. What am I suppose to say? "Yeah, I try all these things to get better and nothing works."
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I also haven't felt the stress until i learned to relax. After that you are really able to tell if you are really under the "stress" or not. I learned to exactly feel even the slightest bit of stress in my body. I can pinpoint every muscle that is bracing.. i can even feel which part of my colon is bracing. This stress is something else OTB.. it's not the ussual stress.. and because it's not ussual it casued you so much problems.
I would describe it as tension.. a spontaneous tension. 3 weeks ago i got pretty emotional with my mom and i ended up instanly fatiqued (like a CFS symptom). It's really crazy..... it will take alot of time until i get to normal state.. i still have some things to fight.. but it's SO easier to fight with them when you have the tension under control.
But you are probably not ready to deal with your problems this way. You will be ready when you will hit the rock bottom. When you will undergo every possible examination and spend the last dollar.
I think you MAY have something other than stress overloaded hypothalamus that is not functioning the right way. But still the relaxing is the first and best thing to do. Also start doing the whole foods diet.
And I have a really weird thing to tell. You know what helped me alot? YAWNING! I started yawning on demand and uhm i suddenly only after a day of yawning I felt much better and it helped me get things more under control. Why?? Well becasue yawning cleans your brain .. sounds crazy?? Well like you i tried everything .. and suddenly one thing helped me so much.. how is it possible??
No idea.. maybe i'm a hypochondriac.. but who cares.. i feel better and that's what counts.
Could yawning help me?. Yes but only when this guy is right. And he probably is....
http://www.members.shaw.ca/hilaryking/Oldbrain1.htm
I would describe it as tension.. a spontaneous tension. 3 weeks ago i got pretty emotional with my mom and i ended up instanly fatiqued (like a CFS symptom). It's really crazy..... it will take alot of time until i get to normal state.. i still have some things to fight.. but it's SO easier to fight with them when you have the tension under control.
But you are probably not ready to deal with your problems this way. You will be ready when you will hit the rock bottom. When you will undergo every possible examination and spend the last dollar.
I think you MAY have something other than stress overloaded hypothalamus that is not functioning the right way. But still the relaxing is the first and best thing to do. Also start doing the whole foods diet.
And I have a really weird thing to tell. You know what helped me alot? YAWNING! I started yawning on demand and uhm i suddenly only after a day of yawning I felt much better and it helped me get things more under control. Why?? Well becasue yawning cleans your brain .. sounds crazy?? Well like you i tried everything .. and suddenly one thing helped me so much.. how is it possible??
No idea.. maybe i'm a hypochondriac.. but who cares.. i feel better and that's what counts.
Could yawning help me?. Yes but only when this guy is right. And he probably is....
http://www.members.shaw.ca/hilaryking/Oldbrain1.htm
i'm gonna start the Metagenics formula again originally given to me by the homeopath..HAN u remember what I am talking about? ultraclear or ultrasustain? something like that
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mind telling which ones in particular? and plz be specific
